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Welp I'm out. Glad I didn't submit for 4 tickets on Saturday.
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BCSWguru said:

This is why I didn't read any reviews or do any research beforehand. I saw one preview and this thread prior to going in.
I wish I left it that way but as I saw more on social media, I sought out more spoiler-free reviews, ads, the promo website discussing the crimes haha I should've just went in blind.
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Did the same with Maxxxine. Enjoyed that one thoroughly as well.
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TCTTS said:

But the idea that "Hollywood" is some monolith that is actively looking to worship Satan might be even dumber. Some of you need to get a grip.


It was mostly a joke. I just watched late night with the devil (which is a far more interesting movie in my opinion) so it was on my brain lol.
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So wait until it is streaming?
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I don't necessarily regret paying to see it. It was cheap. If I had paid $20 a ticket I probably would not have been happy.

I think there's better movies out right now. If you go in with the right expectations (for example, that it isn't horror at all but a basic thriller with some weird Satan stuff crammed in at the last minute) you probably won't be too disappointed.

That said, I would have rather seen inside out 2 a second time with my kids than watch this.
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I'll say this…

The opening tease, where we get the briefest glimpse of Cage as Longlegs, was legit disturbing. To the point where I was thinking holy crap, all those people saying ridiculous things like "Longlegs is evil incarnate and feels as if it were crafted by Satan himself" might actually be right. Combined with the theater being packed, and the buzz in the air, I was even wondering if I should make it a habit of seeing more horror movies in the theater.

Also, the first third to half of the movie is effectively creepy, weird, unsettling, etc. There's a real sense of dread, the cinematography is fantastic, and on a technical level it was damn impressive. Not to mention, they do a really great job of teasing Cage just the right amount and obscuring his face in cool ways.

I was into it all for sure.

But man, around halfway through, for me, for whatever reason, the creepiness and the weirdness slowly went from effective to relentlessly over the top, almost comically so. After a while, it just felt like it was trying sooooo incredibly hard to be like, "Isn't this the creepiest, most depressing, most evil **** ever??? Isn't it distuuuuurbing???" Then, once Cage as Longlegs is fully revealed, and the conceit makes itself known, I couldn't believe THAT was the plot, while Longlegs himself ultimately boils down to Cage being his usual eccentric self, except under heavy makeup. I don't know what I was expecting, but what we ultimately got just didn't work for me at all, and I couldn't take it remotely seriously from the third act on.

I went from thinking maybe the "Longlegs is evil incarnate and feels as if it were crafted by Satan himself" bros were right to now getting angry every time I've seen one of their dumbass tweets since (one guy even said the two leads should be nominated for Oscars and that we'll be talking about this movie for decades to come, and I feel like I live on a completely different planet).

All that said… financially, I *do* want this movie to succeed, for the health of the theater industry, and it looks like it's going to do just that. The Thursday night numbers are coming in, and it's not only going to be big (relatively speaking), but will easily be Neon's highest grossing movie ever, which is pretty cool.

Overall, the audience tonight certainly seemed into it as well.

But personally, I'll be surprised if I see a movie in theaters I dislike more this year.
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Rule Number 32 said:

TCTTS said:

But the idea that "Hollywood" is some monolith that is actively looking to worship Satan might be even dumber. Some of you need to get a grip.


It was mostly a joke. I just watched late night with the devil (which is a far more interesting movie in my opinion) so it was on my brain lol.

Okay, cool. Gotcha. Because otherwise our opinions are completely in sync, and you made me feel less insane for not liking it.

As for the other guying saying Hollywood "hates Christianity," this movie doesn't remotely go after Christianity in any way, nor is it celebrating Satan. Honestly, I wish it would have gone more in either direction, because as is it's void of any thematic element/doesn't have anything of substance to say.
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I appreciate not having too much revealed in trailers, but when I watched the trailers for this one my thought was actually the opposite. I was worried that they showed absolutely nothing coherent about the plot and seemed to be just showing us weird scene after weird scene as if to say, "Ooooh, look, this movie is going to be reeeaaallly creepy!".

Then I fell sucker to the recent hype and got excited to see it. Glad I didn't buy tickets yet. Sounds like another example of why never to believe the early screening reviews.
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That's exactly it.

On one hand, the marketing campaign was so brilliant, and so effective, in how it made people want to see the movie, yet gave next to nothing away.

But now having seen the movie… I don't know what choice the marketing team had, because it's not really about anything. There's hardly any there there. Or, rather, there is, but it's not really revealed until the final 20 minutes or so, and it's mostly backstory at that. Hell, I still couldn't tell you a damn thing about Longlegs the character, in terms of where he came from, what motivates him, why he does what he does exactly the way he does, etc.

The "problem" is that the movie is incredibly effective at creating a sense of dread, and being creepy as hell, while also featuring an interesting-ish setup. And yes, Longlegs is certainly memorable in terms of performance, appearance, etc. But in the end, none of it amounts to anything, nor does the movie have anything to say. So, reaction-wise, the only thing that makes sense to me is that people are being hoodwinked by the dread, the atmosphere, and Longlegs' Joker-like appearance, but if you asked them what they liked about the story itself I don't know that they'd be able to tell you.

As for the early reactions, this is the first time I'm seeing numerous pundits and fellow industry reaction tweeters finally getting mad at/calling out the weirdos who overhyped it, saying it was the most evil/scary thing ever. So that's something at least.
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Yeah, its disappointing because we could use a really good Seven/Silence of the Lambs movie out right now.

And the social media scene around movies seems to just be really at a weird place right now, to me at least. Not like, "oh woke hollywood insulating itself!" or anything like that. I mean, just overly hyped reactions both ways, good or bad. And such dramatic swings between, "This movie is life changing!" to "This movie is the worst movie in the last 5 decades!"

I know this is probably just an old guy rant, but I miss the days where there wasn't 5,000+ so-called "movie critics" who got to see early screenings. I just get the impression most of these people are just regular couch-potatoes who write for some junk online outlet that gets about 500 unique views per month, but they somehow have weaseled their way into getting early screenings and feel like they must give overly dramatic reviews in order to stick out from the crowd.

Probably a pipe dream, but is there anyway studios start scaling back the early access to movies and just give legit media sources the early screenings?
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FL - I was hoping for a seven type Movie. One that has a clear direction and message. That's one where I could see people saying it was the most evil movie ever made. Longlegs couldnt decide if it was trying to be a thriller or a supernatural horror and I think it failed at both.

I have so many questions up and after waking up. I'll get to those below.

1. why did he tarker Harlers family even though she didn't have a dad?

2. I did see people asking why he was longlegs and a theory - because the daddy is the one that does the killing. I liked that and it would have actually added to theovoe imo. Rather than mentioning his name a couple times and never explaining it at all.

3. The screaming thing - it almost seemed like when he did that weird scream that he could work it into mind control. I wish they had shown some of that and/or had Harler do it and figure it out because she did it once in the car and it was really unsettling and then never mentioned or done again in the whole movie. Wtf.

4. Did none of the other families try to beg/barter for their daughters lives? Did the dads just say ok? Did they not have a choice? As a dad of a daughter that just turned 10, this movie should have been WAY more disturbing to me than it was. The family annihilator part of the movie just made no sense and was so unbelievable that I kinda chuckled once the big reveal happened that it was about to happen to miss Ruby. Also, why did t she try to stop the dad before he killled the mom? She just sat there like a goon while he talked about going and getting a knife and leaving her in the kitchen?

5. What is with the "he kills within 6 days of their birthday before or after" crap? Was that literally just so they could draw an inverted triangle on a number line? It honestly makes no sense at all, and they had a great setup that they could have used to stretch out the FBI part of the movie, but then they instantly reveal that all the dates were already taken except the 13th. Then the main FBI guy doesn't put together that his daughter is turning 9 on the 13th? Or that Harkers birthday is on the 14th? I thought these people were supposed to be smart?


Ok rant over. These are just things I was thinking about as I went to bed and after I woke up this morning. The more I think about this, I just can't make any sense of the final third of the movie but you can see the bones were there for a good movie. I just wish it hadn't been hyped up as the next great thing because it certainly isn't.
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ScreenRant has a good synopsis of the plot. Basically, Cage had a familiar, a demon, that liked symbolism.
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6 days. 666. The devil. etc.
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I was not impressed with this movie. The theme seemed to fall flat.
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That's solid TCCTS. And exactly right.

I think this movie broke my brain. I haven't been able to stop thinking all day about how stupid some of the stuff in it was.
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Seriously, watch Mandy and Colour Out of Space instead
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I had a good time even if the whole face thing was overblown.I kind of enjoyed the 3rd act twist of the plot honestly even if it got into ridiculous territory.Her picking up the phone and saying she was late honestly was pretty chilling even if I had a good idea that that scene would happen at some point.
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Saw this movie with my Gen Z teenage sons and I also screened Silence of the Lambs for them a few days ago. I'm right in line with TCTTS review (great start…got really stale halfway in…overall meh) while the Gen Z morons think this is the greatest horror film ever and didn't really understand the silence of the lambs hype.
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It should be apparent from the trailer it won't deliver. It doesn't. There are now horror movie production machines that churn out A24, Blumhouse, and Neon movies (this one is Neon), and while the production machines have their preferences--A24 being the artiest, Blumhouse the most gimmicky and lowbrow, and Neon in the middle--they all feature heavy cross-pollination, so it hardly matters.

Another bad sign: having already gotten movies about robot dolls that terrorize families, we get a trailer before Longlegs about an AI home automation device that terrorizes its family. Movie plots are now just elevator pitches with Diversity! casts.

Maika Monroe from It Follows shows up and while she does her job well, director Perkins is just another version of Rob Zombie: someone who watched a bunch of movies and really wants to make some, but all he's doing is remixing the movies he saw growing up. The 70s stylization gets out of hand from the first scenes, and it's just empty. This is the directorial tier below Tarantino, and it's not a great sign that we're already into the third generation of directors who want to make movies like the other movies they've seen.

This remix fantasia is another indication of stuck culture, the end result of people who have no life experiences beyond consuming entertainment, and no living culture to draw from. It was one thing to have George Lucas rip off Kurosawa samurai movies and John Ford Westerns, but now we have horror movie directors ripping off horror movie directors who ripped off other horror movie directors, and all so depressing.

Anyway, you'll spot the twist in Longlegs well before it arrives onscreen, even if you don't know there's a twist. And it leads nowhere. The movie doesn't make sense and doesn't care. It's a lot of frisson and fake-outs in search of a reason to exist. None are found here.
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People keep acting like the marketing is something new. Hyping earlier rotten tomatoes ratings and quotes before wide release is standard horror fare these days.

I thought it was a solid, but forgettable thriller. Very much in the same way I view a movie like Frailty. Competent, I'd watch again, but not something that will ever make any of my top movies of the year.
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Let me lead with I was beyond excited for this movie. It was the most anticipated film that I've personally had in a while. Along with completely buying into the marketing campaign (kudos to them - but also **** them) - I absolutely love the lead actress and have seen just about every B movie she's been in. And I recently saw the director's first film The Blackcoat's Daughter and was fully expecting great things from him. That said...


This movie was ****ing awful

I tried so hard to like it. But it's terrible. It's a ridiculously stupid plot. The twists and major beats are shoehorned in hurriedly and make zero sense.

I agree with everything TC says and he describes it in a much better way than I could with his posts on this page. I would just add that - Nicolas Cage is so over the top in this but in the absolute worst way. The not showing his face at first is pretty creepy... but once he went full in - my entire theater was laughing hysterically at his scenes. It's so distracting that you're just clearly watching Nicolas Cage being an eccentric weirdo in a ton of bad makeup (and not great acting)... that it completely takes away from what should have been an amazing villain if done with a different actor, as well as the parts of the film that are genuinely disturbing.


Also, I mentioned the director's other movie The Blackcoat's Daughter. It's a very solid, creepy horror movie that I'd recommend... but he also took a lot of the best parts of that movie and just put them in this. I guess if it's your movie then it's not technically ripping anything off... But I certainly noticed it. I'll list them below in spoilers.

There is a demon/satan/familiar that possesses someone and makes them do things although it's not clear until the end.
The demon is subtly inserted into the background throughout the movie which you can easily miss. Longlegs had this several times as well and in both movies it's a cool technique
The characters receive a call from the demon/satan/whatever and it's pretty much the same thing
The director might actually be a devil worshipper because after two movies... it's a little eyebrow-raising



What a disappointment, and another scam job of marketing... but looks like it's going to pay off and I can't fault them for being good at their job.

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I don't know what's wrong with my spoiler quotes... but I doubt anyone cares
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Try deleting the italics in the sp tag
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tk for tu juan said:

Try deleting the italics in the sp tag

that did it, thanks
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Put a lot of effort into my long analysis just above and Stars would be appreciated
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Redstone said:

Put a lot of effort into my long analysis just above and Stars would be appreciated

I will star you if you star me
TCTTS
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All very well said, and I'm so glad to keep finding out I'm not the only one on this ledge. Because seemingly everywhere else online people are continuing to go nuts for this thing. Granted, I'm finally seeing more pushback as well, but it still pales in comparison.
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First 2/3s of the movie were pretty good. The central conceit (which is kind of silly) is revealed in a long exposition dump scene. Had potential, but fell short of being a good movie overall.
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Redstone said:

I definitely prefer Mandy and Colour Out of Space.


Both of those are fun.
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TCTTS said:

But the idea that "Hollywood" is some monolith that is actively looking to worship Satan might be even dumber. Some of you need to get a grip.


You lurk on this thread 24/7
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I had literally just gotten out of the movie when I saw/typed that. I gave my quick thumbs down, responded to that idiotic take, met a couple friends for drinks, then came home and typed up my reaction in full hours later that night. Since then, I've been replying here and there, no more or less than I usually do.

That said, it's opening weekend for a big movie that people have wildly varying opinions on, which I find fun to track and engage with. It's interesting to me, and also part of my job. Sorry that annoys you. Sounds like a "you" problem, though, and definitely not mine.
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I think the zaniness of this one is gonna stick around from a cult perspective almost like Malignant. There is a seriousness mixed with campiness that I think will play well down the road.
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Saxsoon said:

I think the zaniness of this one is gonna stick around from a cult perspective almost like Malignant. There is a seriousness mixed with campiness that I think will play well down the road.


Yeah, but malignant is actually a pretty decent movie. That's the difference
 
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