Did Biff's almanac change between 1955-1985?

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So if the movie logic dictates that the results in the almanac change in the alternate timeline, the question then becomes when does it change. Right after a result changing event happens, or once the game takes place in the alternate reality?

Say a young OJ Simpson gets hit by a bus on a visit to Hill Valley. Do USC and Bills games update automatically? Or do the games themselves actually have to take place before the almanac changes? If the latter then the almanac definitely loses its usefulness.
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guadalupeag said:

So if the movie logic dictates that the results in the almanac change in the alternate timeline, the question then becomes when does it change. Right after a result changing event happens, or once the game takes place in the alternate reality?

Say a young OJ Simpson gets hit by a bus on a visit to Hill Valley. Do USC and Bills games update automatically? Or do the games themselves actually have to take place before the almanac changes? If the latter then the almanac definitely loses its usefulness.
Once Marty's parents kiss at the dance his picture updates, it didn't wait for them to have sex. If OJ were hit by a bus then the almanac would update immediately.
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Well if we're gonna bring up things to keep you up at night....

What time zone specifically is spoken to regarding do not feed a Mogui after midnight????

Also, if water = multiply, when Stripe breaks out of the house and hits the snow, how come the snow didn't start a chain reaction (as opposed to him hitting the pool)?
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Daveintx said:

Well if we're gonna bring up things to keep you up at night....

What time zone specifically is spoken to regarding do not feed a Mogui after midnight????

Also, if water = multiply, when Stripe breaks out of the house and hits the snow, how come the snow didn't start a chain reaction (as opposed to him hitting the pool)?


Easy.
1. Whatever time zone you're in
2. Snow isn't water unless it is melted
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Daveintx said:

Well if we're gonna bring up things to keep you up at night....

What time zone specifically is spoken to regarding do not feed a Mogui after midnight????

Also, if water = multiply, when Stripe breaks out of the house and hits the snow, how come the snow didn't start a chain reaction (as opposed to him hitting the pool)?
I've always wondered: when does after midnight stop? Isn't it always after midnight?
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double aught said:

I've always wondered: when does after midnight stop? Isn't it always after midnight?

I distinctly recall this bothering me while watching it in the theater as a child.
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Same!
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double aught said:

Daveintx said:

Well if we're gonna bring up things to keep you up at night....

What time zone specifically is spoken to regarding do not feed a Mogui after midnight????

Also, if water = multiply, when Stripe breaks out of the house and hits the snow, how come the snow didn't start a chain reaction (as opposed to him hitting the pool)?
I've always wondered: when does after midnight stop? Isn't it always after midnight?


It's also always before midnight
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double aught said:

Daveintx said:

Well if we're gonna bring up things to keep you up at night....

What time zone specifically is spoken to regarding do not feed a Mogui after midnight????

Also, if water = multiply, when Stripe breaks out of the house and hits the snow, how come the snow didn't start a chain reaction (as opposed to him hitting the pool)?
I've always wondered: when does after midnight stop? Isn't it always after midnight?
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Captain Winky said:

So we are using some lame ass Marvel movie to understand time travel mechanics?
I'm not doing any thing other than pointing out the correct "lame ass" Marvel movie that said Back to the Future was bull***** If you don't like those movies, I'm sure you can find something else that is more your speed.


With that screen name, it's probably broke back mountain
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Lathspell said:

Based on the logic presented to us in the movie, the Almanac would change if what he was doing were to affect any sporting results because the almanac is a relic from the future.



I agree with this. The almanac would constantly be updating to what is the correct result based on the occurrences in that reality. No different than the picture or news paper. He couldn't go make a bet too far in advance because the score could still update.

I think it would be too risky to bet on a championship winner at the beginning of a season because there's too many variables that could affect the outcome. But a horse race right ahead of time, there are less external variables.
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When things started changing in the original, didn't his oldest sibling start disappearing first?

If that were the case, as soon as he got the book, the earliest things in the book would start changing. You would have to think meeting your older self would cause enough of a ripple to start the timeline change.

He'd almost have to win it early because things would constantly be updating there would be no way to predict what would/wouldnt update later on.
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Are we overlooking the possibility that the book might disappear completely itself? Maybe Biff's success causes a renewed interest in sports that leads to some other company buying the company that makes the almanac. If that were to happen, would the one Biff has simply disappear or would some other book appear in Biff's possession?
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Are we overlooking the possibility that the book might disappear completely itself? Maybe Biff's success causes a renewed interest in sports that leads to some other company buying the company that makes the almanac. If that were to happen, would the one Biff has simply disappear or would some other book appear in Biff's possession?
It's been probably 20 years since I've seen part 2, but didn't he have the almanac in a safe?
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Are we overlooking the possibility that the book might disappear completely itself? Maybe Biff's success causes a renewed interest in sports that leads to some other company buying the company that makes the almanac. If that were to happen, would the one Biff has simply disappear or would some other book appear in Biff's possession?
it would probably go blank like the "You're Fired" Fax. Basically, the paper still exists, but what is on it can change.
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Finally watching "Outlander" now and I'm plagued with similar questions about the space-time continuum.

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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Are we overlooking the possibility that the book might disappear completely itself? Maybe Biff's success causes a renewed interest in sports that leads to some other company buying the company that makes the almanac. If that were to happen, would the one Biff has simply disappear or would some other book appear in Biff's possession?


Someone suggested earlier that he simply buy the company that made the almanac to ensure it would still be produced.
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Do we still beat Rice in 1955?
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Biff could be like the English tennis fan who made the massive Federer bet way back at the beginning of his career and cleaned house.

In 2003, right after Federer won Wimbledon for the first time, this English guy bet $1,500 on 66/1 odds that Federer would win Wimbledon 7 times total before 2020. His seventh win was in 2012. The guy had passed away by then and left the bet's winnings to a charity in Oxford. It paid about $101,000.





Never heard that story. TBH 66/1 is pretty ****ty odds that he was going to win Wimbledon 6 more times.
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The Kraken said:

Do we still beat Rice in 1955?
No. Heavily favored and lots of pre-game hype but we give up 38 unanswered points in the first half on defensive breakdowns and wind up losing by 40. Fall out of the Top 20 and finish 8-4.
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Not possible. The college schedule in the 50s didn't include 12 games.
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ChipFTAC01 said:

The Original Houston 1836 said:

Biff could be like the English tennis fan who made the massive Federer bet way back at the beginning of his career and cleaned house.

In 2003, right after Federer won Wimbledon for the first time, this English guy bet $1,500 on 66/1 odds that Federer would win Wimbledon 7 times total before 2020. His seventh win was in 2012. The guy had passed away by then and left the bet's winnings to a charity in Oxford. It paid about $101,000.





Never heard that story. TBH 66/1 is pretty ****ty odds that he was going to win Wimbledon 6 more times.
Here's the story from the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/jun/20/wimbledon-federer-oxfam-bet
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Not possible. The college schedule in the 50s didn't include 12 games.
A&M could find a way.
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