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*** Mission Impossible - The Final Reckoning - SPOILERS! ***

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MEEN Ag 05 said:

rhutton125 said:


5, 6, 1, 4, 3, 7, 8, 2 IMO


My order exactly.




Proof of why this series is so good. Many people will beg to differ. For example, I would rate them, 7, 6, 8, 5, 4, 3, 1, 2. Much different ratings, with us only agreeing to 2 being the worst. It shows how good the series is when the fantastic #1 is 7th best.

Many people will have different connections to the movie that will create different types of enjoyment.

It was not the best, but well done.


Oh and yes, swimming nearly 1000 feet to the surface (the sub plummeted down the ravine for awhile before he started swimming) was DUMB!!
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Gabriel was an absolute clown when on screen (and I am a big Esai fan). He took WAY too much delight in teh final scenes of being chased. He was constantly flashing an insane maniacal grin and using some top notch dialog like " catch me if you can" followed by wild laughter. Hard pass on his villain.




when I heard they case Esai I was thrilled - he was a great villain in Ozark

but yeah - he didn't quite work out as well as I thought he would... his antics in the air were not quite right and his yelling when Ethan broke his arm was more awesome than good acting


Thanks for that! I couldn't put my finger on where I'd seen him before. IMO, he was MUCH better in Ozark.
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DG-Ag said:

nosoupforyou said:

mnuge said:

Gabriel was an absolute clown when on screen (and I am a big Esai fan). He took WAY too much delight in teh final scenes of being chased. He was constantly flashing an insane maniacal grin and using some top notch dialog like " catch me if you can" followed by wild laughter. Hard pass on his villain.




when I heard they case Esai I was thrilled - he was a great villain in Ozark

but yeah - he didn't quite work out as well as I thought he would... his antics in the air were not quite right and his yelling when Ethan broke his arm was more awesome than good acting


Thanks for that! I couldn't put my finger on where I'd seen him before. IMO, he was MUCH better in Ozark.
Janet McTeer (the cartel lawyer Helen Pierce in Ozark) also appeared.
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TCTTS said:


Captain Milchick just about stole the movie for me.
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G Martin 87 said:

DG-Ag said:

nosoupforyou said:

mnuge said:

Gabriel was an absolute clown when on screen (and I am a big Esai fan). He took WAY too much delight in teh final scenes of being chased. He was constantly flashing an insane maniacal grin and using some top notch dialog like " catch me if you can" followed by wild laughter. Hard pass on his villain.




when I heard they case Esai I was thrilled - he was a great villain in Ozark

but yeah - he didn't quite work out as well as I thought he would... his antics in the air were not quite right and his yelling when Ethan broke his arm was more awesome than good acting


Thanks for that! I couldn't put my finger on where I'd seen him before. IMO, he was MUCH better in Ozark.
Janet McTeer (the cartel lawyer Helen Pierce in Ozark) also appeared.
Right. She's popping up all over the place. She's also in Mobland.
You're from down South,
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G Martin 87 said:

DG-Ag said:

nosoupforyou said:

mnuge said:

Gabriel was an absolute clown when on screen (and I am a big Esai fan). He took WAY too much delight in teh final scenes of being chased. He was constantly flashing an insane maniacal grin and using some top notch dialog like " catch me if you can" followed by wild laughter. Hard pass on his villain.




when I heard they case Esai I was thrilled - he was a great villain in Ozark

but yeah - he didn't quite work out as well as I thought he would... his antics in the air were not quite right and his yelling when Ethan broke his arm was more awesome than good acting


Thanks for that! I couldn't put my finger on where I'd seen him before. IMO, he was MUCH better in Ozark.
Janet McTeer (the cartel lawyer Helen Pierce in Ozark) also appeared.


She's healed very well since the shotgun to the face.
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Just incredible
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Did they ever reveal which American city they chose to nuke?
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Captain Winky said:

Did they ever reveal which American city they chose to nuke?


I was waiting for them to say Houston like they did in Independence Day but they didn't say it - would have been cool if they could somehow splice the name into each reel in every city to show THAT city was the one - lots of groaning and laughter for sure

But after 2nd watch, they did not announce the city
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stopped watching the mission impossible films after 3...just got distracted and never kept up....

however this video crawled into my feed today and it's only 2 days old....figured the folks here on this thread would very much appreciate the perspective that is given on this...

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So what's up with him "hanging" in most of the Mission Impossible stunts? Has it just become his signature stunt for this series?
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nosoupforyou said:

Captain Winky said:

Did they ever reveal which American city they chose to nuke?


I was waiting for them to say Houston like they did in Independence Day but they didn't say it - would have been cool if they could somehow splice the name into each reel in every city to show THAT city was the one - lots of groaning and laughter for sure

But after 2nd watch, they did not announce the city
As my wife and I were sitting and watching in the Ipic at The Domain I was SO hoping they'd say Austin!
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"The Final Reckoning" is so awesome from start to finish. We were transfixed. We loved every minute of it.
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Captain Winky said:

Did they ever reveal which American city they chose to nuke?

They say to the President, "Did you talk to you son?" as indicated the son was in the city where it was "nuked."
I believe in was Washington, DC.
Maybe?
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TCTTS said:


Wait, there was a pilot in the red plane wearing a green screen helmet and TC wasn't flying the plane with his foot.

Fake!!! Hollywood is so phony.
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Just got back from this. Theater was almost full. Lots of laughter at times I'm not sure it was intended to be funny. Enjoyable but stupid funny. The scene that everyone laughed at was when the parachute failed and caught fire.
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In my theater there was a collective sigh of relief when the second chute appeared.
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Watched it last night and thought it was a blast, maybe my second favorite in the series behind Fallout.

It was pretty well paced for as long as it was but it did take a bit to get to the action (though I enjoyed all the callbacks). This one had more humor than past installments but that was well done, I thought some of the secondary characters were one of the highlights. I liked Paris being a bigger part of the story and she was great, Donloe's wife was hilarious with zero English dialogue, and Tramel Tillman stole the show as always. If you enjoyed him as the sub captain and aren't familiar with Severance you're in for a treat. (And for the Severance fans, I missed it but apparently Nat was on the GHW Bush.) The stunt work was all incredible and the sub escape (and all the set up for that) was SO good. And sad to see Luther meet his end but what a perfect way to send him out.

Agreed with those who thought Gabriel was a bit too maniacal here, that was too big of a shift from his character in the first film (and yes he was great in Ozark). I get the complaints about not seeing more cool examples of The Entity doing AI things but considering they've shifted to analog technologies to intentionally shut it out that all makes sense (and seeing how they were doing things non-digitally was kinda cool too).

As a whole, great summer blockbuster and I got a little misty at the end. A fitting send off if this is the last one in the TC series.
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So is this officially the last one? I know I've heard that, but feel like I haven't seen anything official. Even as insane and impressive as he is, it's hard to imagine a 63 year old Tom Cruise doing this stuff again.

But that didn't really feel like a definitive ending IMO. And obviously this franchise makes a ton of money. Do they do more with a different lead, and Benji and the team still involved?

I still don't get why they killed off Rebecca Ferguson. She seemed like the perfect match for Cruise (although I'm not angry about Hayley Atwell and her Rogue Nations being in the series). Is the thought that maybe she's not dead and she takes over?

I'd be all for that, but not sure she carries a movie like Cruise...
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The rumor is Cruise didn't want "final" in the title but the studio pushed for it, whether or not it's truly the last one remains to be seen.

TC has allegedly said he'd like Glen Powell to take over the franchise in his place but Glen has said there's no way he'd do the stunts.
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Echoing what fig96 said, Cruise in fact did not want to market the movie as the "final" anything, but seeing as the last one underperformed (stupidly releasing the weekend before Barbenheimer), and considering how much the budget for this one ballooned, Paramount felt that billing/framing it as an Endgame-like event would guarantee more money at the box office, and it turns out they were right (maybe less so creatively, but definitely financially).

In fact, in a recent interview, Angela Bassett revealed that she recorded the voice over for her opening monologue (on the should-you-choose-to-accept-this-mission VHS tape) only two months before the movie's release. Which implies to me that a number of nostalgia elements were tacked on and integrated where they could be, which would also explain why that stuff feels forced and overbearing at times. It sounds like it was a constant push and pull behind the scenes as to how far to take that stuff. Granted, it's obvious that things like Donloe's involvement were planned from the start, and I know Cruise and McQuarrie were planning on taking a break from the franchise after this regardless, but ultimately I think that's all this is - a break.

Cruise is currently shooting an Alejandro Inarritu movie, and then I know he has some other stuff planned as well, some of it with McQuarrie, including the third Top Gun movie. Also, Skydance (who makes all the Mission: Impossible movies) is currently in the process of buying Paramount - the deal is done - but it's taking forever due to the Trump/CBS lawsuit (Paramount owns CBS), which is holding up the finalization. That should be resolved soon-ish, though, and finally close this year, then once the dust has settled, Skydance will no doubt want to talk/figure out the future of the franchise with Cruise & co.

If I had to guess, Cruise finally hands the baton off to a Glenn Powell type, but continues starring in the movies as more of a mentor/instructor/administrative type, who gets pulled into the action in, say, the third act. Something along those lines, where he's not destroying his body in his late 60s via multiple stunts in the same movie, but still participates in some capacity in a stunt each movie. Ultimately, though, who knows.

But no, this is not the official end by any means. I just think it's the end of this particular crew (Luthor, Benji, etc), and Ethan Hunt driving the action for the entire runtime. I'd bet anything the franchise revs up again, circa 2029/2030 or so, with somewhat of a "new class" vibe, but Cruise still involved/participating (and definitely calling the shots behind the scenes).
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I guess I'm the only one old enough that my primary association for Esai Morrales (Gabriel) is being the lieutenant on NYPD Blue.


My wife and I saw it today and loved it!
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Something along those lines, where he's not destroying his body in his late 60s vis multiple stunts in the same movie, but still participates in some capacity in a stunt each movie.


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They worked hard to have every important leadership role filled by a woman and for those women to be the catalysts for good decisions. It was overkill.

Tom Cruise had to regret his hair length in the plane versus plane scenes. He looked like Moe from the Three Stooges.
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Roll the Bones said:

I guess I'm the only one old enough that my primary association for Esai Morrales (Gabriel) is being the lieutenant on NYPD Blue.


My wife and I saw it today and loved it!
My primary association with Esai Morales will always be his role in La Bamba as Richie Valens brother, and of course the famous "Ritchieeee" scene after Ritchie dies.
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Omperlodge said:

They worked hard to have every important leadership role filled by a woman and for those women to be the catalysts for good decisions. It was overkill.

Tom Cruise had to regret his hair length in the plane versus plane scenes. He looked like Moe from the Three Stooges.
"Every important leadership role"…all two of them?
 
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