Gosh man, it's tough to be gay/trans...we get it. I wouldn't choose that either. But how hard is it to just make childrens' movies without that? Why not seek counseling as a form of therapy? Or start up a non profit for youth who identify as gay/trans/whatever? Making a childrens' movie about a gay child is just a bold move and most aren't ready for that yet.

It may be hard for some to understand...but small children are not ready for advanced/complex/sensitive topics like this yet.

25 pages, 3 bans, and probably not a single person posting will have ever seen it.

Read this earlier today. Good summary of a previous podcast he heard related to this topic (or really the overall topic of Pixar over the past few years):

There was a great podcast done a couple of years ago about the fall of Pixar.

The central point was with the firing of John Lasseter in 2018, Pixar ceased focusing on the script/story in its decision to greenlight a movie. Lasseter never started production until there was a… https://t.co/QGYneR2eq3

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) July 1, 2025

I don't really care about the presence or absence of gay coding, but if they had a test screening where nobody said they would pay to see the movie, that's seems kind of indicative of issues with the film, no?

I keep seeing ads for it online but didn't know anything about.

PixPride? We need a club within a company that is focused on sexuality/gender identity, when none of that should even be a topic in a workplace?

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I don't really care about the presence or absence of gay coding, but if they had a test screening where nobody said they would pay to see the movie, that's seems kind of indicative of issues with the film, no?

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You monster!!!

We saw it this weekend. It was fine, just like most of what Pixar has produced the past handful of years. Not remarkable in any way, just fine

Claude! said:

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I don't really care about the presence or absence of gay coding, but if they had a test screening where nobody said they would pay to see the movie, that's seems kind of indicative of issues with the film, no?

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I mean, that's about as good as it gets for market research. If I was the production crew I would be ashamed that I spent all this effort creating something no one wanted and would be happy to make changes that would make it valuable to at least SOMEONE besides the creators.

Who is the target demo for a movie about an 11 Y/O gay kid, if that's what it was? How many parents want to have that discussion with their kid after seeing it, or how many more would just avoid it, even many moderate thinking folks? Of course the test screen bombed. But someone green lit it, just crazy how far the pendulum swung a few years ago.

Kids and I enjoyed it. It's a fun, original space adventure.

It sounds like these changes were for the better, despite the poor box office.

dvldog said:

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Read this earlier today. Good summary of a previous podcast he heard related to this topic (or really the overall topic of Pixar over the past few years):

There was a great podcast done a couple of years ago about the fall of Pixar.

The central point was with the firing of John Lasseter in 2018, Pixar ceased focusing on the script/story in its decision to greenlight a movie. Lasseter never started production until there was a… https://t.co/QGYneR2eq3

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) July 1, 2025

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Gunn made a really similar statement recently, about to many studios (I think marvel specifically) going into production without a script and how that contributes to so many movies not being very good

I had no clue this movie was coming out until it did. Pixar has fallen off the face of the Earth. There was a time where I saw every movie the first week it came out.

We all know what space in the movie is:
https://www.theunticket.com/jake-z-space-is-super-gay-intro/

I took my 9 year old to see this. I actually thought it was decent. Nothing that set off my gaydar. 9 yo enjoyed it and is not sexually confused. Focus group appears to have done its job. Thought it had had a decent message. I will admit to taking a 15-20 min nap during the middle of the movie.

This one seems destined for failure from the get go.

It seems like it didn't set off your gaydar because it removed the gay, much to the dismay of the gay. I'll bet it would have been fantastic and extremely popular and you wouldn't have fallen asleep if it just had more gay in it.

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25 pages, 3 bans, and probably not a single person posting will have ever seen it.

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I haven't seen the movie yet, and since my kids have kind of aged out of Pixar, I likely never will. Therefore, I am fully qualified to go to my local school board this week and ensure that it is either banned or made compulsory viewing. I'm not sure which one yet.

Wear a disguise second time around and argue for both.

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"The exodus of talent after that cut was really indicative of how unhappy a lot of people were that they had changed and destroyed this beautiful work."

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Oh no! Does this mean Pixar will get back to focusing on good stories in their movies instead of social preaching? What a shame

The obsession with this stuff is so bizarre.

Stop putting gay stuff in kids movies.

This isn't hard.

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The obsession with this stuff is so bizarre.

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I know. I'm not sure why people are harping on this.

Hollywood absolutely doesn't have people trying to push things like this onto society. I'm sure this is just (another) one-off example by a rogue filmmaker.

Ha, gay!

Honestly, our kids had zero interest in this...but they did see the commercials. I think our kids (14 & 11) have been conditioned by seeing a couple of other pixar movies during covid (turning red, and one about an italian kid), both were just weird...nothing like toy story or monsters inc. Truly like another company is making their movies now. Our kids have ZERO interest in anything disney at all. Illumination, however, they love.

YouBet said:

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Stop putting gay stuff in kids movies.

This isn't hard.

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An awful lot of people see stuff like this and assume that you hate gays and are teaching your children to hate them. If you don't want gay/trans stuff in movies for 5-6 yr olds, you must hate them.

I know a few ppl like this IRL. It's crazy...all we want to do is shield them a bit and protect their innocence for a while and not bog them down with heavy, sensitive, highly nuanced topics like sexual preferences.

I'd heard some good buzz on this and that it was one of their higher rated films in a long time, will likely wait for streaming but I'm looking forward to seeing it.

I can honestly see both sides of it. As a parent I understand not wanting to expose your child to certain things, though without knowing exactly what was in the film from someone not trying to get clicks it's hard to know how overt or not it was. And it is rated PG so it's not intended for young kids.

As a creative, however, I can totally understand how working on something that had a message you really believed in then having that stripped out or corporatized would be totally disheartening. People that haven't done things like this probably can't understand how much animators and other artists out of themselves into these films.

All that said, definitely agree that Pixar's films aren't nearly what they used to be, probably also related to them having laid off many long time employees in the last few years. (Though I did really enjoy Inside Out 2.)

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As a creative, however, I can totally understand how working on something that had a message you really believed in then having that stripped out or corporatized would be totally disheartening. People that haven't done things like this probably can't understand how much animators and other artists out of themselves into these films.

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Got a whole lot of "who gives a ****" and "grow up and join the real world, your product doesnt sell so it shouldn't exist" to this. Lots of people work hard on things no-one cares about. Forcing something to exist and to expect people to watch it because you worked hard on it is stupid logic. This is a modern concept that needs to end. Too much force-fed "I worked hard, so that makes me a winner" crap taught to people growing up who don't ever truly understand that trying doesnt mean succeeding, especially when what you are trying to create is a ****ty product to everyone other than you.

My dog works hard to take multiple ****s everyday, but you don't see me going around forcing everyone to see it in the museum of modern art. Ok, bad example...

How about we go back to "write a good story"? That seems to have taken a backseat to having a message to communicate.

Didn't ask you to have any sympathy for them nor does that really have much to do with what I said, but thanks for illustrating my point I guess.

Animation sucks. It's hard and tedious and you have to legitimately love it to do it at anywhere near the level that Pixar and other studios do. Every creator puts something of themself into their work, and if the thing you were working on that you loved becomes something else that you don't love, it sucks. That's all.

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Wear a disguise second time around and argue for both.

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