Just finished the series; great show! I've gone back and read some of the posts, and may have missed it...if the world did not have these non-Others, what would the Others be doing with/to the planet?? What is their final objective - after "pleasing" the non-Others and/or converting them? Just work the planet in a commune style?

Resource preservation for whoever sent the signal is my guess on their ultimate mission

I still wonder if this is the end goal. An alien takeover. I can't imagine this alien species is smart enough to create this "virus" and be able to broadcast it across the universe, but they can't figure out the dilemma about "no killing" that'll ultimately result in the entire human species going extinct within 10 years? Seems intentional to me. They want to rid earth of humans, but in doing it this way it ensures the planet is still in good condition afterwards. This way humans don't nuke each other and make it uninhabitable.

I believe that is exactly the plan, get rid of the alpha species and come in afterwards with little to no resistance. They can let the humans extinction play out over the next 10 or so years while they are traveling towards earth. At most, if no new babies are born, we (humans) will cease to exist in 110 or so years. This assumes babies are still living, which the show has not shown any, and in fact hinted in episode one (in the hospital) they don't.

drmwvr said:

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I believe that is exactly the plan, get rid of the alpha species and come in afterwards with little to no resistance. They can let the humans extinction play out over the next 10 or so years while they are traveling towards earth. At most, if no new babies are born, we (humans) will cease to exist in 110 or so years. This assumes babies are still living, which the show has not shown any, and in fact hinted in episode one (in the hospital) they don't.

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One episode there was mention of a specific number of deaths and births that day, so I assume that the current pregnant women are still "finishing the job" and there are still healthy babies being born. For the following few months at least. Beyond that initial supply, there's no indication that they're making new ones.

Of course, there was also a mention of orgies in a different episode, so maybe thats actually a non-issue.

First half had a "HER" vibe when Carol caught Zoisa meeting with manousos and realized she was just an artificial representation of the aliens and common sense superseded her loneliness.

Joachim Phoenix with a head nod…


I went back to the second episode and saw that a filthy Zoisa was loading a body into a truck, got on a motorcycle to the airport, started and flew a C-130 around the world to Albuquerque to meet with Carol.

Had kinda forgotten about that. With what we know ( or think we know now ) Anyone care to expound on this?

I think the Collective was specifically selecting Zoisa to deal with Carol? And ultimately she failed because she couldn't be the individual that Carol needed.

The Milkman said:

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They explained it later in that episode. She was selected because she looked like a female version of the character on the cover of her books.

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Gracias.

The Milkman said:

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They explained it later in that episode. She was selected because she looked like a female version of the character on the cover of her books.

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I totally forgot about that. I may have to go back and watch the firs 2-3 episodes again.

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Hogties said:

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The story isn't that dissimilar from invasion of the body snatchers. The hive mind aspect is interesting and pretty unique from my memory of movies like this show.

I will be surprised if the aliens who sent the code did so out of benevolence. Might be a great way to eliminate competition with no shots fired which would be in line with the Dark Forest theory as an answer to Fermi's paradox.

But at this stage of the game I have no idea what Carol can do to reverse what has happened. She may simply be the eyewitness to the end.

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Might be a way to "recruit" societies into an "alliance" of sorts. That an infected human race would quickly develop space traveling technology or effectively faster than light communication to get in touch with the parent civilization and join their hive mind.

Maybe the signal is a civilization virus. That there is no cohesive "mission" but it's like a computer virus that infects civilizations rather than computers. So maybe we are the gazillionth in a chain of infected civilizations.

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I was wondering if the inability to kill anything had led to the beings on the other planet to go extinct. To keep going, they sent the signal to replicate the hive mind elsewhere.

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aTmAg said:

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Hogties said:

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The story isn't that dissimilar from invasion of the body snatchers. The hive mind aspect is interesting and pretty unique from my memory of movies like this show.

I will be surprised if the aliens who sent the code did so out of benevolence. Might be a great way to eliminate competition with no shots fired which would be in line with the Dark Forest theory as an answer to Fermi's paradox.

But at this stage of the game I have no idea what Carol can do to reverse what has happened. She may simply be the eyewitness to the end.

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Might be a way to "recruit" societies into an "alliance" of sorts. That an infected human race would quickly develop space traveling technology or effectively faster than light communication to get in touch with the parent civilization and join their hive mind.

Maybe the signal is a civilization virus. That there is no cohesive "mission" but it's like a computer virus that infects civilizations rather than computers. So maybe we are the gazillionth in a chain of infected civilizations.

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I was wondering if the inability to kill anything had led to the beings on the other planet to go extinct. To keep going, they sent the signal to replicate the hive mind elsewhere.

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Or it's the preparatory assault so that the planet is uninhabited when the invasion fleet arrives. (Kind of like another popular sci-fi series.)

Love the show, but we're supposed to believe that the hive had to obey her request for a nuke, but wouldn't have obeyed a request to stop using her eggs to make the conversation therapy?

Then again, maybe the crate contains her frozen eggs and not an actual bomb.

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Love the show, but we're supposed to believe that the hive had to obey her request for a nuke, but wouldn't have obeyed a request to stop using her eggs to make the conversation therapy?

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They want her consciousness in the hive. 90% of the population is going to starve to death in the next decade. One nuclear weapon won't scratch the surface of that.