Starts Jan 8th on Peacock.

https://www.peacocktv.com/blog/the-traitors-season-4-cast

This is the most ridiculously fake, stupid, but well produced reality show that ever existed.

And I love every minute of it.

There are what are considered "prestige dramas" out there with way worse scripts, that take 9 months to film what these people do in 2 weeks.

From a technical perspective, it's actually rather impressive what they're able to pull off.

Every one knows that these are paid actors who DGAF about the split of the final prize, bc of their appearance fee.

But the scripters, in less than 24 hours, have to work with, "what we've been given, what the talking heads say, how to get certain people to vote."

They pull it off FAST.

And yet, I still don't even care that it's fake.

I've been wanting to watch this as a mindless background nonsense, yall have convinced me

Rigs said:

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And yet, I still don't even care that it's fake.

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I suppose Santa is fake too? PFFFT

Just don't bother with S1. Start with S2.

Generally enjoy this show, but this is the worst cast they've had by far

Rigs said:

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Just don't bother with S1. Start with S2.

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Considering starting soon, why not start with 1?

S1 mixes celebs and civilians. It doesn't quite work as well.

S2 ditches the civilians and it works quite well.

There's no real continuity needed, so I'd got 2,3, then 1.

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Generally enjoy this show, but this is the worst cast they've had by far

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It's actually a decent one, when you consider what they are trying to do.

There are more actors and less prior drama that no one actually cares about that has bogged other seasons down.

It all depends on who they pick as traitors.

Lisa Rinna will run the show. Stephen Colletti will have something to say.
Survivor Rob will too. Some combination of them will be involved. It's unlikely they will choose Rob- it's too obvious, and it's better off he stir up sht on the side.

Lipinski and Weir are good casting, but will broken up immediately. I'll actually bet they make Lipinski a traitor, but she gets quickly snuffed out.

Hope the traitors work with each other longer this season. I agree that S2 is the better starting point if getting into the show before the season starts, just for watching John Bercow interact with the other players

The partial entertainment this season will be the RHAP staff critiquing their boss' gameplay.

This is a decent summary of everyone's chances.

Power Rankings

Of course, 3 episodes of ridiculousness.

As expected, Lisa Rinna runs the show. There are quite a few more real obnoxious personalities than in past seasons, along with some real wastes of space.

My favorite will always remain the ridiculously stupid challenges, and the time stamps that come along with them. It's like guys, no one believes you idiots figured out how to row a boat back and forth that many times in 45 mins, or run around and find 10 skulls and stack them in 10 minutes. Like it's all absurd, which is why more than half of them can't even fake act enough to care.

This stuff on Survivor lasts like 3+hours, they aren't getting it done in 45 mins.

And, yet, knowing every episode is shot in one day, it's slightly legit.

Is this a spoiler free thread or how we doing this?

Love Island Rob was surprising in his role. Put himself in a decent position so far. Three of the players I was interested in watching compete this season are already eliminated.

Scotty Flamingo said:

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Is this a spoiler free thread or how we doing this?

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Typically, if it has aired it is free to discuss. I may black out murders/votes past episode 1 to be courteous.

Two big coalitions this time.

Gamers: Ian, Tiffany, Natalie, Rob C, Yam Yam
Bravo: Candiace, Caroline, Dorinda, Porsha, Lisa

I have only watched Episode 1

• Rapaport gives zero effs
• Alabama Rob is smarter than I thought
• Candiace is sloppy
• Maura is a dud
• The secret traitor twist is designed to allow producer interference. They can't have their "stars" voted out early.

The secret traitor idea is stupid, really just designed for drama in the turret.

It's not like there's integrity in this game anyway, producers can just tell them "no" if they want to vote someone off the producers don't want them to.

Rigs said:

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The secret traitor idea is stupid, really just designed for drama in the turret.

It's not like there's integrity in this game anyway, producers can just tell them "no" if they want to vote someone off the producers don't want them to.

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I kinda like the idea. I've only seen the first episode though so we will see.

Ep 1 spoilers

I was disappointed seeing Ian go out so early. I was pulling for him.