Saw an ad for The Odyssey while watching the baseball game and it got me thinking, is he on the Mt Rushmore of all time directors? Is there an argument he's the best?
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I think more time would have to pass to put him on Rushmore, but Interstellar is my favorite movie and Oppenheimer is top 5, so that means a lot to me.
I mean, he's no Uwe Boll, but he's aight.....
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No. Well, not yet anyways.
Spielberg and Scorsese are the rock solid ones that have to be in there.
The other two spots are where the debate would be imo.
The other two spots are where the debate would be imo.
Prestige is his best for me. And you'd be hard pressed to create a better Batman (villains and all) to beat his rendition. Interstellar definitely made me respect McConaughey as an award winning type actor. Basically he doesn't miss.
Thoughts on Tarantino?
He's probably too old for your youngins to remember, but I love Hitchcock. Truly the master of suspense, even in black and white movies.
Mount Rushmore...
1. Steven Spielberg
2. Martin Scorsese
3. Christopher Nolan
4. Stanley Kubrik
Honorable mentions (in alphabetical order)...
- Paul Thomas Anderson
- James Cameron
- The Coen Brothers
- Francis Ford Coppola
- David Fincher
- John Ford
- Alfred Hitchcock
- John Huston
- Terrence Malick
- Ridley Scott
- Quentin Tarantino
- Denis Villeneuve
- Billy Wilder
I'm sure I'm missing plenty others, but that's who first comes to mind.
1. Steven Spielberg
2. Martin Scorsese
3. Christopher Nolan
4. Stanley Kubrik
Honorable mentions (in alphabetical order)...
- Paul Thomas Anderson
- James Cameron
- The Coen Brothers
- Francis Ford Coppola
- David Fincher
- John Ford
- Alfred Hitchcock
- John Huston
- Terrence Malick
- Ridley Scott
- Quentin Tarantino
- Denis Villeneuve
- Billy Wilder
I'm sure I'm missing plenty others, but that's who first comes to mind.
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Kevin Durant is hurt and the fix is in so I'm not paying 100% attention to this game, so I'll be that guy. Everyone listed here are old white American dudes from the western hemi?
No Kurosawa?
Wong Kar-wai?
Three Amigos?
They all smoke Nolan. Villeneuve smokes Nolan in his own lane. Top four all-time? No. He's elite, no doubt? But top four?? Come on, now.
No Kurosawa?
Wong Kar-wai?
Three Amigos?
They all smoke Nolan. Villeneuve smokes Nolan in his own lane. Top four all-time? No. He's elite, no doubt? But top four?? Come on, now.
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Thoughts on Tarantino?
He'd probably make my personal Rushmore. Fourth spot is a toughie though.
I've got Kubrick, Nolan, and a few others in the running.
If we're doing a Rushmore:
Kurosawa
Kubrick
Hitchcock
Spielberg
Kurosawa
Kubrick
Hitchcock
Spielberg
For me, Michael Mann was on his way there in the 90's.
Definitely Spielberg.
Definitely Scorsese.
I think Nolan has earned his way on there already. I mean, show me where he's had a real misfire yet on his directing resume? You can't. And not only were they just good movies, but I'd say all but Tenet were truly great ones that you mull over for hours, maybe days afterwards.
Definitely Spielberg.
Definitely Scorsese.
I think Nolan has earned his way on there already. I mean, show me where he's had a real misfire yet on his directing resume? You can't. And not only were they just good movies, but I'd say all but Tenet were truly great ones that you mull over for hours, maybe days afterwards.
Nolan has 4 movies that I think would entertain/intrigue an audience regardless of era for the rest of time in Interstellar, Oppenheimer, Inception, and The Prestige. That doesn't include the Batman trilogy and to a lesser extent Tenet, Dunkirk, or Memento. His worst is far better than the majority's best
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Mt Rushmore of all time? No, Nolan isn't there (although he and Denis Villneuve might be the top 2 in the business at this moment). But hell, Spielberg might not even be on the Mt Rushmore. I may be channeling my inner Redstone right now, but hardcore cinephiles would be throwing out guys like:
Kubrick
Kurosawa
Wilder
Bergman
Godard
Fellini
Hitchcock
Lean
Scorsese
Welles
Dreyer
Tarkovsky
Ford
Leone
Kubrick
Kurosawa
Wilder
Bergman
Godard
Fellini
Hitchcock
Lean
Scorsese
Welles
Dreyer
Tarkovsky
Ford
Leone
Spielberg
Nolan
These are my top 2.
After that, I have a few that I can make strong cases for. Narrowing that list to 2 is difficult. Names like Ridley Scott, Stanley Kubrick, Robert Zemeckis, John Ford, John Carpenter, Martin Scorsese, Denis Villeneuve, James Cameron, Alfred Hitchcock, and even TA's most hated, George Lucas.
Nolan
These are my top 2.
After that, I have a few that I can make strong cases for. Narrowing that list to 2 is difficult. Names like Ridley Scott, Stanley Kubrick, Robert Zemeckis, John Ford, John Carpenter, Martin Scorsese, Denis Villeneuve, James Cameron, Alfred Hitchcock, and even TA's most hated, George Lucas.
Depends.
For an elitist Rushmore where movie snobs love to throw out names that make them sound like they really know what they're talking about? No. He never will.
For a Rushmore of directors who make movies that EVERYONE enjoys? I put him there. Tenet was the only miss, for me. Not the biggest fan of the Dark Knight Rises, either. But the rest of his discography goes from great to Spectacular, for me.
I would watch Interstellar 30 times in a row before I watch some French black and white movie where everything's a metaphor for something and one apparently needs a film degree to understand.
For an elitist Rushmore where movie snobs love to throw out names that make them sound like they really know what they're talking about? No. He never will.
For a Rushmore of directors who make movies that EVERYONE enjoys? I put him there. Tenet was the only miss, for me. Not the biggest fan of the Dark Knight Rises, either. But the rest of his discography goes from great to Spectacular, for me.
I would watch Interstellar 30 times in a row before I watch some French black and white movie where everything's a metaphor for something and one apparently needs a film degree to understand.
The best directors list can be subjective, but there are some very obvious artists that must be near the top. Here is my Mt. Rushmore
Andrei Tarkovsky
Akira Kurosawa
Ingmar Bergman
Jean Renoir
Special mention for Carl Theodor Dreyer
Contributors to this thread should expand their palate and then maybe return and edit.
Andrei Tarkovsky
Akira Kurosawa
Ingmar Bergman
Jean Renoir
Special mention for Carl Theodor Dreyer
Contributors to this thread should expand their palate and then maybe return and edit.
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Nah, I'm good with my list.
Lurkers, should you think to add your own Mt. Rushmore, ask:
did they expand the language of cinema, or just execute it stylishly?
Cinema isn't a democracy. It's a hierarchy of vision.
did they expand the language of cinema, or just execute it stylishly?
Cinema isn't a democracy. It's a hierarchy of vision.
Good list. I might sub out Kubrick for one of your others simply out of personal preference.
I wouldn't have Tarantino on any list like this at all so that's my only objection. He has some cool films but also a lot of shock and awe trash.
I wouldn't have Tarantino on any list like this at all so that's my only objection. He has some cool films but also a lot of shock and awe trash.
Personal preference is fine - I have them - but did the director expand what film can "do?"
Did they offer in their art new ways of "seeing," such as Ozu's tatami shots, Bresson's "models," Kubrick's one-point perspective), new relationships between sound and image and time, like Tarkovsky's sculpting of time, or Malick's voiceover as a manner of inner prayer, or new moral or philosophical inquiries through visual form, like Bergman's chamber psychodramas, or Kielowski's ethical mazes?
Mere technical skill or stylish execution isn't enough, my question always is: did they change the grammar of cinema?
Did they offer in their art new ways of "seeing," such as Ozu's tatami shots, Bresson's "models," Kubrick's one-point perspective), new relationships between sound and image and time, like Tarkovsky's sculpting of time, or Malick's voiceover as a manner of inner prayer, or new moral or philosophical inquiries through visual form, like Bergman's chamber psychodramas, or Kielowski's ethical mazes?
Mere technical skill or stylish execution isn't enough, my question always is: did they change the grammar of cinema?
I will give you this Redstone, Yojimbo is a masterclass in filmmaking and writing.
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Don't know if real Redstone or troll Redstone, but Redstone knows ball where this thread is concerned.
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Lurkers, should you think to add your own Mt. Rushmore, ask:
did they expand the language of cinema, or just execute it stylishly?
Cinema isn't a democracy. It's a hierarchy of vision.
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Here's the link for Seven Samurai by Akira Kurosawa which is, to me, the greatest action movie ever made for free.
Not Mount Rushmore but Sidney Lumet deserves his chops
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Personal preference is fine - I have them - but did the director expand what film can "do?"
Did they offer in their art new ways of "seeing," such as Ozu's tatami shots, Bresson's "models," Kubrick's one-point perspective), new relationships between sound and image and time, like Tarkovsky's sculpting of time, or Malick's voiceover as a manner of inner prayer, or new moral or philosophical inquiries through visual form, like Bergman's chamber psychodramas, or Kielowski's ethical mazes?
Mere technical skill or stylish execution isn't enough, my question always is: did they change the grammar of cinema?
Dunno. Did I like movie? Yes or no.
That's my criteria as an Entertainment Board troglodyte.
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Kevin Durant is hurt and the fix is in so I'm not paying 100% attention to this game, so I'll be that guy. Everyone listed here are old white American dudes from the western hemi?
No Kurosawa?
Wong Kar-wai?
Three Amigos?
They all smoke Nolan. Villeneuve smokes Nolan in his own lane. Top four all-time? No. He's elite, no doubt? But top four?? Come on, now.
Lmao at KD.
Is Mt Rushmore the four faces of the greatest leaders of the world or some well respected presidents of the United States?
Why would two chinamen be on the mt Rushmore of movie directors? And three amigos? Are you telling me there is a director called three amigos and he's not white and from the western hemisphere?
You could make a case for John Hughes, he was king of a particular genre for a while.
He's either #1 or #2 for me all time
Franklin Schaffner should be on there solely for giving us Patton.
I almost said Robert Altman but then remembered he directed Popeye.
maroon barchetta said:
You could make a case for John Hughes, he was king of a particular genre for a while.
I would put John Carpenter on it.
Come at me.
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