Gnome Sayin said:

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All celebrities should be avoided and be observed from afar like zoo animals. The more famous they are the farther the observable distance.

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This. If someone works in or around Hollywood, I just assume they are pedo.

David_Puddy said:

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Milwaukees Best Light said:

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David_Puddy said:

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The more information that I've continued to see, I don't believe that he is a pedo. I think the opposite actually. I believe that he was trying to save the kids from the sick Hollywood pedo ring that has been going on for a very long time. They didn't like that and they set him up and changed the narrative on him. If you listen to some of his later songs, the lyrcis speak for themselves.

See Mel Gibson, Cory Feldman, etc.....all of these people speak out and try to expose this stuff and get ostracized. With MJ, he was too big to be silenced, so they had to have him killed. Same with Princess Diana. I know that I will likely be called a conspiracy theorist, but I really don't care.

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This is some wild *****

Is there some ringleader of this pedo ring? Who decides who has to die?

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Maybe you've been living under a rock the last several years, but do a Google search of the Epstein files and start there.

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The ones full of references to Trump? Those Epstein files?

I'm quoting this post, but your whole deal on this thread is bonkers. "There's a ring and everyone's in on it, except for the guy with all the evidence against him. He's fine."

I'd say it's more likely that OJ didn't do it…and OJ definitely did it.

ElephantRider said:

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David_Puddy said:

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Milwaukees Best Light said:

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David_Puddy said:

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The more information that I've continued to see, I don't believe that he is a pedo. I think the opposite actually. I believe that he was trying to save the kids from the sick Hollywood pedo ring that has been going on for a very long time. They didn't like that and they set him up and changed the narrative on him. If you listen to some of his later songs, the lyrcis speak for themselves.

See Mel Gibson, Cory Feldman, etc.....all of these people speak out and try to expose this stuff and get ostracized. With MJ, he was too big to be silenced, so they had to have him killed. Same with Princess Diana. I know that I will likely be called a conspiracy theorist, but I really don't care.

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This is some wild *****

Is there some ringleader of this pedo ring? Who decides who has to die?

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Maybe you've been living under a rock the last several years, but do a Google search of the Epstein files and start there.

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The ones full of references to Trump? Those Epstein files?

I'm quoting this post, but your whole deal on this thread is bonkers. "There's a ring and everyone's in on it, except for the guy with all the evidence against him. He's fine."

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I thought we were talking about Michael Jackson, and then you come along and mention Trump? Jesus bub, get a grip.

The dude rubbed elbows and networked with a lot of high profile people. It seems like a lot of them corresponded with him and eventually distanced themselves when it became clearer what exactly he was, while others gravitated and became much more intimately involved. So, being "in the files" really proves nothing. If there was clear proof of Trump doing anything wrong associated with Epstein, that would have been known years ago.

Not saying he's a saint, seems like he enjoyed his share of womanizing for a time, but still doesn't seem to be any proof of anything involving minors.

But MJ was a pedo.

ElephantRider said:

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David_Puddy said:

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ElephantRider said:

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David_Puddy said:

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Milwaukees Best Light said:

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David_Puddy said:

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The more information that I've continued to see, I don't believe that he is a pedo. I think the opposite actually. I believe that he was trying to save the kids from the sick Hollywood pedo ring that has been going on for a very long time. They didn't like that and they set him up and changed the narrative on him. If you listen to some of his later songs, the lyrcis speak for themselves.

See Mel Gibson, Cory Feldman, etc.....all of these people speak out and try to expose this stuff and get ostracized. With MJ, he was too big to be silenced, so they had to have him killed. Same with Princess Diana. I know that I will likely be called a conspiracy theorist, but I really don't care.

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This is some wild *****

Is there some ringleader of this pedo ring? Who decides who has to die?

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Maybe you've been living under a rock the last several years, but do a Google search of the Epstein files and start there.

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The ones full of references to Trump? Those Epstein files?

I'm quoting this post, but your whole deal on this thread is bonkers. "There's a ring and everyone's in on it, except for the guy with all the evidence against him. He's fine."

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I thought we were talking about Michael Jackson, and then you come along and mention Trump? Jesus bub, get a grip.

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So is it different Epstein files?

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Really not sure what the hell you're talking about but I'll try and explain it to you like a third grader. I brought up the E files to simply point out that Hollywood is a cult of pedos and if you speak out or go against them, then you are ostracized. You can do your own research but people like Mel Gibson and Niki Minaj have done so along with countless others. I mean there was a clear case that Diddy was doing it and look how many of those people were friends with him and attended his parties. If you believe otherwise, and think Hollywood and the music industry are all innocent people just trying to make a buck, then your head is buried too far in the sand.

Again, really not sure why the hell you're bringing up Trump, but you do understand that his name is in the files that many times largely because they contain people calling in from anonymous tip lines where they don't have to include their name or show any proof, correct? If they had any credible evidence of Trump being a pedo, they would have released it long before his election campaign in 2024 (and while the Biden DOJ had these files for 4 years), instead of trying to assassinate him numerous times.

This thread is about evidence and facts. I will entertain conspiracy theories if there is evidence to back them up. I'm sorry, but too often "do your own research" is just code for "i read this on a subreddit somewhere or I saw a tweet or FB post". People are citing actual evidence, whether court filings, testimony, documentaries, etc. If you aren't willing to cite any sources, then I don't think you can just expect us to take you at your word. Especially in cases where it seems clear, to me at least, that ostracization seems to be brought on but completely unrelated, and often valid, public transgressions or crimes. Nikki Minaj is the only one who seems unfairly getting cut out, but she is just MAGA now and the left hates that, thems the breaks for celebrities.

And this is actually funny to me, because there is plenty of evidence against MJ, but people keep dismissing that and putting forth these other theories without so much as a single source other than "its widely known" or "there is a history" or "its clear that hollywood does...."

Well this thread was about Michael Jackson and the OP included a point to whether or not he was a pedo. I'm glad that you brought up bringing about evidence though, so here you go….

Ah, yes. Because one jury in one case found him innocent, we should automatically disregard the mountain of evidence outside of that case, never mind what our own eyes and ears tell us, in favor of your ridiculously stupid brain rot conspiracy theory!

Heineken-Ashi said:

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Gnome Sayin said:

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All celebrities should be avoided and be observed from afar like zoo animals. The more famous they are the farther the observable distance.

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This. If someone works in or around Hollywood, I just assume they are pedo.

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If not a pedo, just assume they have a completely sick and twisted worldview at the very least. There are obviously exceptions, but the degeneracy is so prevailing, better to be safe than sorry.

Random, but Cynthia Erivo breaking down like a soldier with extreme PTSD in need of comfort because a helicopter flew by in the distance comes to mind. These people are not well. They scream "STAY AWAY FROM ME" to any sane, rational person.



The crazy blonde chick from Dawson's Creek using the once-in-a-lifetime moment on the award stage to celebrate and brag about her abortions and how they were able to help her accomplish everything she has in her life also comes to mind. Sick sick people.

OJ Simpson was acquitted too but that doesn't mean he was innocent.

TCTTS said:

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Ah, yes. Because one jury in one case found him innocent, we should automatically disregard the mountain of evidence outside of that case, never mind what our own eyes and ears tell us, in favor of your ridiculously stupid brain rot conspiracy theory!

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The jury didn't find him innocent.

They simply found that the prosecution didn't prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Two different things.

TCTTS said:

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Ah, yes. Because one jury in one case found him innocent, we should automatically disregard the mountain of evidence outside of that case, never mind what our own eyes and ears tell us, in favor of your ridiculously stupid brain rot conspiracy theory!

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Boy, I didn't realize that I'd get followed around a thread by some unhinged lunatic simply because I don't share the same opinion. If there were a mountain of evidence as you claim, then he would have been found guilty. How many Covid shots have you gotten so far?

The sequel to the Michael movie needs to be about how MJ and Bubbles the Chimp infiltrate the shadowy pedo cabal that runs the world so that he can expose it and bring it down. He gets so close, only to be betrayed by Corey Feldman, who MJ thinks is his friend and confidant. Not only is Corey Feldman a secret agent of the cabal, he is actually the secret leader of it and is the most powerful person on the planet. MJ dies and Bubbles goes into hiding, secretly publishing the Epstein files from his lair at the Cincinnati Zoo.

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JDUB08AG said:

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Did MJ sleep in the same bed with boys? Yes or no?

If the answer is yes, I don't care if he slept with a straight jacket on...you don't do that. It eliminates any and all credibility of good judgement. You deserve the accusations and stigma from that.

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So do you feel the same way about family members who sleep with their kids? Or do you think that's different even though the vast majority of child sexual abuse cases occur within the family?

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I don't think there is much difference. An uncle or adult cousin shouldn't be sleeping with a little boy. And I'm not talking about a big family sleepover in a rental house with limited beds.

Belton Ag said:

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The sequel to the Michael movie needs to be about how MJ and Bubbles the Chimp infiltrate the shadowy pedo cabal that runs the world so that he can expose it and bring it down. He gets so close, only to be betrayed by Corey Feldman, who MJ thinks is his friend and confidant. Not only is Corey Feldman a secret agent of the cabal, he is actually the secret leader of it and is the most powerful person on the planet. MJ dies and Bubbles goes into hiding, secretly publishing the Epstein files from his lair at the Cincinnati Zoo.

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Your kid has never come into your bed because they had a bad dream? Or did you just yell at them to go back to bed?