Bonfire in the future

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Howdy101
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With the University showing no signs of Bonfire returning to campus, I'm starting to think it might be better held off campus simply because, for many people, it wouldn't be the same because the shock of November 18th would come back. Besides, the students who were around when Bonfire was on campus have graduated and moved on and the students who are currently at A&M don't know what the environment with Bonfire on campus is like. They participate in Bonfire, just off campus. The Spirit of Bonfire is there and they can have the experience and the memories of Bonfire, just off campus. Even if Bonfire were to return to campus, the current students won't understand it and probably won't be "celebrating" because they weren't around when Bonfire was on campus. Current students have the experience and memories of Bonfire, because the tradition continues to this day. Future students will have the experience and Bonfire will continue each and every year. Bonfire is alive and is being held by Student Bonfire, which is probably the best thing.


Is Student Bonfire thinking about buying land for a permanent home for Bonfire?
commando2004
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If, in 2000, President Bowen had decided that A&M would never sponsor a Bonfire again, what, if anything, do you think would be different today?
Bobunk RAB
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A&M administrators have stalled since the beginning. Much of the postponement is easily understandable.

How could the administrators allow Bonfire to come back after it fell? It wasn't their place to. They weren't the heart and soul of it. They didn't build it, even if some of them participated in the past. They were out of touch and negligent in many ways, mostly absorbed in the huge benefits to alumn sentiment and contribution and income from the influx of visitors when it burned. How then could they give the go-ahead for a project that was poorly supervised and, in the end, did not fit into "Vision 20/20"?

The administrators stalled year after year. For the first few years it was self-evident. How can such a dangerous project be easily reembarked upon? The most effective ploy though was to simply say that on-campus Bonfire will not be considered until litigation ceases. Slick. As A&M skirted any responsibility, callously and evasively avoiding its role in the tragedy, a decade was whiled away. In the meantime most of the families of the victims were denied closure and the sense of "Aggie family" that only the ignorant (unwilling to investigate accountability) and the local media perpetuated.

I'm talking about a Bonfire that ignored expert advice contribution in construction from profesors like Hirsch. So how can we go from what could've been and should've been to an oppressively supervised on-campus Bonfire where "building" it means watching it be built by professsional non-students and the scope of cut involvement is questionable.

Many of us were so dyed-in-wool hardcore Bonfire builders that after the collapse, we were shell-shocked; some of us couldn't think of much of another solution than to dive right back in and wonder when we would build Bonfire again, and then made it happen. How else could we recover from the tragedy? Not making Bonfire happen from our own will would've made the tragedy that much more senseless to us.

I agree with pretty much everything you say Howdy101. This Bonfire, the student Bonfire, is as real as it will ever get. As I've said, it is just as significant in origin, susceptibility to failure, and collective passions as the "real deal". I was proud about the way Moses carried on with determination and dedication to safety and education of participants. A&M killed us for it. We were so much a threat to them they made Moses co-ed freshman.

In part through us, this off-campus Bonfire breathed again and it will without us. All I wish is that the methods of building it don't get carbon-copied over and over until the original intent is faded and unrecognizeable, and mishap becomes again probable.

While some trends, like all logs seated on the ground and leaning inward will go a long way in the right way, others, like the greypots insisting on calling themselves redpots indicate an insecurity with doing it independently, as though they need to have others identify them with the "official" Bonfire. That's not admirable. We all know what happened to the official Bonfire. Napoleon brought back the title of emperor and brought ruin to France. You don't have to revive a title. Do right by actively making it so.

I didn't mean to go on so long, but the cold front has finally made it Bonfire weather, and with it being this time of year, right now, I'm rowdy, and sorrowful.

Ya'll are making the real Bonfire. Pray for the fallen, their families and the injured's hearts to mend, and build the hell.
agcoop10
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I've now seen you write a couple of times about your disapproval of continuing to use the term "Redpot", and I fail to see why that should be a big deal. Unless they are perpetuating carelessness and a hidden desire to return to the "old way" of doing things, it's just a title. I can tell you from first-hand experience that this year's Reds have no thoughts whatsoever of that kind of thing. And when it comes down to it, it's good for Bonfire. Many people close to Bonfire pre-'99 (notably deads) have given their approval to use the title that made them gods on campus back in Ol' Army, and as such will recognize it and respect these new guys more.

It just seems petty to split hairs over this, and, in my opinion, very closely resembles the way we call those hippies down the road t-sips, a term meant to demean. And if you do support Student Bonfire I don't know why you would demean its leadership.
Kampfers
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quote:
Is Student Bonfire thinking about buying land for a permanent home for Bonfire?


Yes.
Fitch
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I'll second coop. I was at the open forum held on Bonfire a few weeks ago. Towards the end a late arrival made the impassioned speech about how, as one of the early leaders of Student Bonfire, him and his brothers had been approached by pre-99 reds suggesting that they start stacking logs. Those precursors to today's SB reds didn't want to set the precedent of taking orders from the past and did not want to think of stacking logs, which today is a major component in the "safety pitch" people use when talking about SB's changes. And he said they probably alienated a fair number of old reds with that decision.

My point is, I see the pot color for its historical position, one of authority, not riddled with fallibility. They've been self monitoring and self critical in my time participating in SB, to the extent of removing their JRP brothers if they don't act in the manner a redpot should. I'll see them literally running across campus in the spring, and at Taps in a group. I think they take the job seriously and respect them for it.



[This message has been edited by Fitch 10 (edited 11/17/2009 4:59p).]
97txag
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damn fitch--there's an image I forgot about. Seeing all the upper leadership of bonfire running around campus to get where ever they were going.
Fitch
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just a kid in school. heard it that night from my parents at dinner… I remember going to bed with the news still on. couldn't possibly know then that I'd be here today…
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