One concern I have is SB being something of a victim of its own success.

As participation grows, supervision and enforcement of policies becomes a greater challenge. There's also the issue of "not enough work to go around", particularly at stack.


I'd consider adding some tangential projects, such as constructing a stage, to provide more work.

Well if you get all the logs out of the woods then you'll have more to stack. Not that the stack didn't look great last year.

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Well if you get all the logs out of the woods then you'll have more to stack.

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Regardless, there's a finite number of swings and a finite number of logs that can be put on stack in any given time period. There's just not enough work to have 250 people on site.

I'm not designing a stage.

Not enough work for the people? Well, if history is any guide . . .

Have one group making trip-sets.
Have a second group move the trip-sets to a new location.
Have a third group take apart the trip-sets, 'cause "we got too damned many!"
Have a fourth group move the newly deconstructed trip sets back to where the first group is.
Have yet another group re-lining up logs so that they are easier to carry/drag to stack.
The band should gather around the cookie shack. *
The corp should seek out any roaming journalists or tv crews and get interviewed. *

*Please note, my dear crew-cutted friends, that this is meant to be read as humor*

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I'm not designing a stage.

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I think a stage is close enough to the ground and simply enough in design to go without calculations and renderings. It's all highports, bolts/nails, plywood, and maybe some 2 x 6's.

It's certainly less complex than a Habitat project.

I remember watching Bonfire on TV in the 90's and I remember R.C. and the yell leaders and any other speachifiers were up on a tall podium well above the heads of the crowd. I always thought that would be good bring back. No idea how hard that would be to build.

Just sink a bunch of highports for posts, run 2x6's (or other highports - slightly more complicated) between them, and top it with plywood.

Only moderately tricky part is making sure the posts are vertical and the framing between them is level.

well then where are we going to find a bunch of logs?

Uhh... highports are pretty easy to come by, especially ones short enough to be used for stage posts.



nsg06 - just a thought, but with this letter driving members of '09 to the web site, it might be good to have some content on the front page addressed specifically to that audience.

It was a joke, or at least a poor attempt at one. Seriously, there needs to be someone leading the shindig. I realize that means $$, but I think it would be much better if the entire crowd was cooridinated.

Keegan, good call. I have been working 8-5 and have been busy working on this fundraising video, which has resulted in averaging 2-3 hours of sleep each night...

so once I can get this mailed out to WillD, my attention will turn to the rest of the presentation, other things, and the website.

Jim has done an AWESOME job in getting it to where I can update it. He has put in a lot of work and the website is looking awesome. With each time that we've re-designed we've gotten more and more functional, so I am really please and I think we owe a huge thanks to him for putting so many hours in on it and being available to fix problems (like the one he's working on now).

And, as far as #s go... we can't be afraid to grow. We're not accomplishing our mission if we don't. But, I do agree that there need to be firm controls in place so things do not get out of hand.

But if we are worried about having people standing idly by, we can employ shifts or something. I'm not worried about having too many people that want to work on it. There are ways of spreading it out... I mean, didn't the on-campus Fire have shifts? Not everyone was out there all the time.

In fact, I think it would make things a lot easier to have shifts. Maybe not logistically, but you would be less likely to lose a fish when their grades go down the tube and their parents have a coronary.

The old stack was worked in shifts. Usually 6PM to midnight and then midnight to 6AM. Most of the really interesting stuff happened during the later shift. Even back then with shifts, you still ran into times where there was more people than work (and often more work than people).

Some of the people standing around just want to say they are out there and don't really care if you find work for them or not. Keep that in mind when trying to come up with busy work. IOW, don't rack your brain too hard trying to make sure no one is left out.


Scott Coker '92/'95

Back in the day, non regs were divided into three groups of 4 or 5 dorms apiece. Once stack started you cycled through the stack shifts.

For instance, it might work something like this:

Group A:
Dunn
OCA
Hart
HHH
Hotard

Group B:
Aston
FHK
Appelt
Walton
McInnis

Group C:
Crocker
Moore
Lechner
Moses

The reds would try and balance the numbers for the three shifts so they were approximately equal. On the first night Group A would have the first shift and Group B would have the second shift and Group C would be off. On the second night Group C would have the first shift, Group A would have the second shift and Group B would be off. On the third night Group B would have the first shift Group C would have the second shift and Group A would be off.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

IIIRC CT’s were on a different schedule. Never could really figure out what it was. I think pretty much the handful that wanted to actually worked showed up when they wanted to anyways and the rest occasionally showed up to Hollywood.

Chick dorms showed up with the guys that they cut with. So Group C would actually be (in my day) Crocker, Moore, DG, Lechner, Moses and Neely.

Keegan, not completely finished... in the least... but I took a break at work and updated the info on the homepage. I have to consult with my sisters and the Greys before I change the info too much.

Better?

nsg06 - nice work so far.

For the record, I hope you don't take my comments as nagging or overly negative, as that is certainly not intention. I'm just trying to offer helpful suggestions for SB in your effort to present a superior PR effort.

Keegan, I appreciate it... I was under a bunch of pressure and stress yesterday. It's been boiling for a while.

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In fact, I think it would make things a lot easier to have shifts. Maybe not logistically, but you would be less likely to lose a fish when their grades go down the tube and their parents have a coronary.

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This is not really true. The people that want to be out there all the time were still out there all the time. The problem with shifts is you feel obligated to be there at a certain time whether it interferes with your school or not, as opposed to just showing up when you knew you could work.

Anyways, it's great problem to have & shifts will probably be necessary eventually just for the sake of being able to supervise everyone. Don't worry about it too much though.