There was a thread that got me thinking about the Vatican, and I thought I’s share a little bit of some of the incredible things that Lovelight and I got to see there.
I was kind of actually on the lookout for this room, which is just another room among many many rooms, filled with masterpieces. Rafael painted this, and this is like his “room number 5” or something like that. Not sure if it was his hand exactly that did it all, because when an artist is said to have done something, if it’s really big, often he had a team of his students that painted exactly in his style… Anyway, not to get side tracked…
This is a pic of Plato (pointing up) and Aristotle (gesturing down)
It symbolizes the differences in their philosophies in that Plato focused on universals, and Aristotle focused on particulars.
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Here they are again, kind of doing the same thing:
[URL=http://imgur.com/CNb6N]
The effect that these two philosophers had on Western thought and culture was profound. Especially Aristotle, who’s view really kind of won out, because it was really the one we could access. Universals however have always been built more on authority. This is one reason, the Reformation kind of took off and helped pull culture out of the middle ages, because not only were we making leaps and bounds in the particulars, but we had more of a universal standard to appeal to (the bible).
So right now, we really are kind of at the end of what was the closest thing to a golden age, and since most of Western culture has thrown off the universal standards, even the particulars are beginning to lose meaning.
[This message has been edited by Notafraid (edited 1/27/2012 6:28p).]
I was kind of actually on the lookout for this room, which is just another room among many many rooms, filled with masterpieces. Rafael painted this, and this is like his “room number 5” or something like that. Not sure if it was his hand exactly that did it all, because when an artist is said to have done something, if it’s really big, often he had a team of his students that painted exactly in his style… Anyway, not to get side tracked…
This is a pic of Plato (pointing up) and Aristotle (gesturing down)
It symbolizes the differences in their philosophies in that Plato focused on universals, and Aristotle focused on particulars.
[/URL]Here they are again, kind of doing the same thing:
[URL=http://imgur.com/CNb6N]

The effect that these two philosophers had on Western thought and culture was profound. Especially Aristotle, who’s view really kind of won out, because it was really the one we could access. Universals however have always been built more on authority. This is one reason, the Reformation kind of took off and helped pull culture out of the middle ages, because not only were we making leaps and bounds in the particulars, but we had more of a universal standard to appeal to (the bible).
So right now, we really are kind of at the end of what was the closest thing to a golden age, and since most of Western culture has thrown off the universal standards, even the particulars are beginning to lose meaning.
[This message has been edited by Notafraid (edited 1/27/2012 6:28p).]