Excellent, thx. He has an interesting personal story/background:

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Wesley Huff was born in Multan, Pakistan and spent a portion of his childhood in the Middle East. After being diagnosed with a rare neurological condition at the age of eleven that left him paralyzed from the waist down Wes experienced a miraculous recovery that the doctors themselves said they had no medical explanation for. This experience, along with a great deal of study and soul searching in his later teens solidified his interest in the subjects of faith and engaging the beliefs and worldview perspectives of others. He spent his high school years in the Northern Ontarian and currently lives in Toronto, Canada with his wife Melissa, their son Eli and two daughters, Everly and Juliette.

He holds a BA in sociology from York University, a Masters of Theological Studies from Tyndale University, and is currently doing a PhD in New Testament at the University of Toronto's Wycliffe College. For five years Wes worked as a writer, researcher, and speaker for Power to Change - Students (formerly Campus Crusade in Canada) and has made contributions to The Gospel Coalition Canada, being involved in the collective with TalkAboutDoubts.com, a curriculum contributor with Trans World Radio, and written multiple entries (including those on Rastafarianism, Canadian Druze Society, and Kathok Conpa Buddhism) in the Melton's Encyclopedia of American Religions (Ninth Edition, Vol 2: Canada).

Wesley is currently the Central Canada Director for Apologetics Canada and has participated in numerous public dialogues, debates, and interfaith events on issues of faith, belief, and religion across North America.

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I haven't listened to the podcast yet but intend to.

It was the best "Christian/Bible" based interview I've heard from Rogan. They really covered a lot. I respect that Joe lets his guests talk.

I try not to get any more excited about celebrities coming to Christ than I do with normal people. But Rogan is clearly searching and he is certainly not the same person he was a few years ago. I do pray he comes to know Jesus.

On another podcast note, huge podcaster Sean Ryan had Lee Strobel on for 3 1/2 hours. Sean is a young Christian and Lee did a great job going into various faith topics.

And Wes embarrassing Billy Carson (former guest on Rogan) is what prompted Rogan having him as a guest.

https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3521449

If you haven't listen to the one when Rogan had Stephen Meyer on (it was referenced in this one too), you should. It was more 'evidence of the existence of God' discussion than examining the claims of Christianity in particular, but I think if you enjoyed this one you'd probably enjoy that one too.

That was a really good one. I was surprised that Joe had him on, but very pleased. I think his eyes are being opened to the truth.

Huff comes across Anti Catholic & doesn't accurately reflect Catholic history

I'm 2/3 through it, this is a very interesting conversation.

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It was the best "Christian/Bible" based interview I've heard from Rogan. They really covered a lot. I respect that Joe lets his guests talk.

I try not to get any more excited about celebrities coming to Christ than I do with normal people. But Rogan is clearly searching and he is certainly not the same person he was a few years ago. I do pray he comes to know Jesus.

On another podcast note, huge podcaster Sean Ryan had Lee Strobel on for 3 1/2 hours. Sean is a young Christian and Lee did a great job going into various faith topics.

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Completely agree with this take. He was practically anti-religion before he came to Texas. It's been cool to see his opinions evolve.

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And Wes embarrassing Billy Carson (former guest on Rogan) is what prompted Rogan having him as a guest.

https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3521449

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So much so that Billy attempts a law suit:

Cross post: https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3521449/replies/69467407

Unfortunately he is not Catholic so has a very high chance of damnation.

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Huff comes across Anti Catholic & doesn't accurately reflect Catholic history

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Catholics don't accurately reflect Catholic history. I wouldn't expect a Protestant to be able to.

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What about an historian?

I came to this board this morning to see if this was being discussed.

With regards to Rogan, it is interesting what happens when you speak "truth" as it seems Joe is. Similar to Lee strobel and Wes Huff that when you search for the truth about religion, you typically end up with Christianity. Similarly, I think Jordan Peterson is getting there too. He's so close, but knows his whole life changes once he proclaims Jesus as his Lord and Savior.

Really enjoyed this as well, especially the historical perspective on putting together the books of the Bible as I've previously heard Joe criticize this. I was intrigued by the end where he talks about the development of apologetics resources, especially to counter current issues of our time. Anyone have an good resources for me to check out?

Out of curiosity, what is your biggest objection to there being a God?

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Hey...so.. um said:

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I came to this board this morning to see if this was being discussed.

With regards to Rogan, it is interesting what happens when you speak "truth" as it seems Joe is. Similar to Lee strobel and Wes Huff that when you search for the truth about religion, you typically end up with Christianity. Similarly, I think Jordan Peterson is getting there too. He's so close, but knows his whole life changes once he proclaims Jesus as his Lord and Savior.

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You mean people who grow up surrounded by Christianity tend to have questions and beliefs framed by Christianity. People raised in Muslim or Hindu communities tend to fall towards or away from those faiths rather than pick something they have no exposure with.

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No, I mean what I said. Those who truly seek the truth with an open mind, find that truth in Christianity. You would too if you tried.

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Yea that's just not been my experience at all.

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Hey...so.. um said:

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Hey...so.. um said:

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I came to this board this morning to see if this was being discussed.

With regards to Rogan, it is interesting what happens when you speak "truth" as it seems Joe is. Similar to Lee strobel and Wes Huff that when you search for the truth about religion, you typically end up with Christianity. Similarly, I think Jordan Peterson is getting there too. He's so close, but knows his whole life changes once he proclaims Jesus as his Lord and Savior.

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You mean people who grow up surrounded by Christianity tend to have questions and beliefs framed by Christianity. People raised in Muslim or Hindu communities tend to fall towards or away from those faiths rather than pick something they have no exposure with.

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No, I mean what I said. Those who truly seek the truth with an open mind, find that truth in Christianity. You would too if you tried.

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Yea that's just not been my experience at all.

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Care to elaborate?

Google must have been watching my Texags posts because a day after I reply to another topic on this guy it recommends this video critiquing him.

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Out of curiosity, what is your biggest objection to there being a God?

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If you mean any deity, period, my reading of history over the years, my admittedly limited knowledge of cosmology and my better knowledge of biology suggest either no god active in our universe or one so vastly different and removed from us that it doesn't make much practical difference. Admittedly, I could be wrong about that. I'm much less decisive about the existence of something we would call a god than I am that the human conceptions we currently have of God or gods does not exist. The Christian concept of a trinity and a God that is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent simply don't hold up for me under scrutiny. I've reached this conclusion academically, through logical reasoning, and through my own experience with the problem of suffering and evil. And please don't sit here and assume I just haven't heard the right apologetics. I've read just about every reasonably modern (and plenty of ancient) figures you could name. From the more popular writers like Strobel to the inbetween like Craig to more academic writers like Swinburne.

Have you read any Aquinas?

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Have you read any Aquinas?

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City of God and Confessions.

That's Augustine, but still very good books. I recommend checking out Aquinas's 5 proofs for the existence of God from the Summa. These can easily be found online if you have any interest

Sorry. Read too quickly. Yes, I've read an abbreviated version of the Summa Theologica.

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Out of curiosity, what is your biggest objection to there being a God?

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If you mean any deity, period, my reading of history over the years, my admittedly limited knowledge of cosmology and my better knowledge of biology suggest either no god active in our universe or one so vastly different and removed from us that it doesn't make much practical difference. Admittedly, I could be wrong about that. I'm much less decisive about the existence of something we would call a god than I am that the human conceptions we currently have of God or gods does not exist. The Christian concept of a trinity and a God that is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent simply don't hold up for me under scrutiny. I've reached this conclusion academically, through logical reasoning, and through my own experience with the problem of suffering and evil. And please don't sit here and assume I just haven't heard the right apologetics. I've read just about every reasonably modern (and plenty of ancient) figures you could name. From the more popular writers like Strobel to the inbetween like Craig to more academic writers like Swinburne.

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ETA: after re-reading your post, I think you mean that the answers to my questions really don't matter because whatever the source of consciousness is doesn't care about us like the Christian conception of God does?

You've always come across as well researched so that doesn't surprise me. How do you deal with consciousness arising from the unconscious? In order for matter to exist, there must be a material world. In order for space to exist, there must be a "space" for space. It seems to me that in order for consciousness to exist, we must live in a universe that is conscious (or created by a conscious being). How does the part (humans) have an ability that the whole (the universe/God) does not?

Sorry if that comes across as rambling but I have long thought of this issue but never asked the question.

As for the Omni's: is that an issue of all 3 together not making sense? Are one or two of those Omni's possible?

Yeah, Huff is clearly no historian, nor is he an Irving Finkel type who really does have an in depth knowledge of Sumerian and Acadian history/script etc. I think there is a bit of a 'gap' in terms of very good historians with a knowledge of ancient Mesopotamian cultures/religions with a crossover strong biblical historical knowledge of 1st/2nd temple Judaism, and early Christianity/christian history/theology. But that all covers a huge amount of training/learning so it's not real surprising.

I didn't finish the episode but got about halfway through, and thought for a casual discussion/introduction in the format he did pretty well though. Billy Carson seems…like a bit of a clown to me though. I'd never heard of him before either, and doubt I spend much time learning about his thoughts/research further.

Joe Rogan is searching. He will find what he is looking for. I just hope his aim is in the right direction as we will all find what we search for.

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The complexity of a heart valve makes you say "nah there's no God?"

Sure nature just evolved a mechanical mechanism.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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The complexity of a heart valve makes you say "nah there's no God?"

Sure nature just evolved a mechanical mechanism.

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If you look at the inherent problems, short cuts, and better solutions out there just within the animal kingdom for any number of supposedly "brilliant designs," in humans the answer is 'this does not point to an intelligent design vs random design due to selection over hundreds of millions of years and generations.'