The Vatican City State has toughened sanctions for those who try to illegally enter its territory in areas where free access is not allowed. https://t.co/PRebGFb0hs
— Catholic News Agency (@cnalive) January 15, 2025
Quo Vadis? said:The Vatican City State has toughened sanctions for those who try to illegally enter its territory in areas where free access is not allowed. https://t.co/PRebGFb0hs
— Catholic News Agency (@cnalive) January 15, 2025
This should go over well without commentary from any world leaders who have been absolutely castigated for their opinions on illegal immigration
Same but less sodomy.swimmerbabe11 said:
I wonder what vatican jail is like.. similar to vatican monkery right?
PabloSerna said:
In case you missed it, in 2003, the RCC listed 5 moral principals regarding immigration. Number 3 reads as follows,
"Sovereign nations have the right to control their borders."
You wrote, "Do as I say, not as I do"747Ag said:PabloSerna said:
In case you missed it, in 2003, the RCC listed 5 moral principals regarding immigration. Number 3 reads as follows,
"Sovereign nations have the right to control their borders."
...which makes the irony so delicious.
PabloSerna said:You wrote, "Do as I say, not as I do"747Ag said:PabloSerna said:
In case you missed it, in 2003, the RCC listed 5 moral principals regarding immigration. Number 3 reads as follows,
"Sovereign nations have the right to control their borders."
...which makes the irony so delicious.
I guess I don't see the irony, maybe you can elaborate? I wrote what the RCC said publicly 24 years ago about controlling borders which they say is a moral principal. Do you understand something differently?
PabloSerna said:
While I can agree that the narrative that has been spun by some that the Pope/RCC is pro undocumented immigrants all the way, no breaks- this is not a full understanding of their position.
It's rooted in the understanding that we (at some point in time) were all strangers in a land. Being a good neighbor is being able to do what you can- some can do more than others.
swimmerbabe11 said:
I feel like there was recently a thread that implies the amount of sodomy might be similar....
2003 was two popes ago!PabloSerna said:
In case you missed it, in 2003, the RCC listed 5 moral principals regarding immigration. Number 3 reads as follows,
"Sovereign nations have the right to control their borders."
Yeah, well, it's a damnable communist "theology" so the less of it we hear from Church prelates the better.Scoopen Skwert said:
Not very liberation theology of them.
I was a direct witness to the sinful turn within the formation of priests. Therefore my disgust at the acceptance of homosexual acts and communism.747Ag said:Yeah, well, it's a damnable communist "theology" so the less of it we hear from Church prelates the better.Scoopen Skwert said:
Not very liberation theology of them.
Quo Vadis? said:PabloSerna said:
While I can agree that the narrative that has been spun by some that the Pope/RCC is pro undocumented immigrants all the way, no breaks- this is not a full understanding of their position.
It's rooted in the understanding that we (at some point in time) were all strangers in a land. Being a good neighbor is being able to do what you can- some can do more than others.
I would say the Pope is 99.97% pro- undocumented migrants and has used his voice to loudly critique virtually any and all attempts to stop illegals from reaching the country.
The only possible thing he has said is that possibly, and he doesn't know, but some might have to be sent back; but first of all they need to be welcomed.
I'm not sure how that jives with a country having sovereign control over their borders (hint, it doesn't) but it is the most "pro-sovereignty" thing he has said.
UTExan said:Quo Vadis? said:PabloSerna said:
While I can agree that the narrative that has been spun by some that the Pope/RCC is pro undocumented immigrants all the way, no breaks- this is not a full understanding of their position.
It's rooted in the understanding that we (at some point in time) were all strangers in a land. Being a good neighbor is being able to do what you can- some can do more than others.
I would say the Pope is 99.97% pro- undocumented migrants and has used his voice to loudly critique virtually any and all attempts to stop illegals from reaching the country.
The only possible thing he has said is that possibly, and he doesn't know, but some might have to be sent back; but first of all they need to be welcomed.
I'm not sure how that jives with a country having sovereign control over their borders (hint, it doesn't) but it is the most "pro-sovereignty" thing he has said.
I think the Pope has that element of hatred for America common among many born in Latin America. It is, like antisemitism, always lurking beneath the surface and the fact that Latin America has many failing governments drives some of that animus. The facts of failing governance and the evidence of so many fleeing is testimony that Spanish (read Catholic) colonization is far less successful than English (read Protestant) colonization. That's what really torques him, IMHO.
UTExan said:Quo Vadis? said:PabloSerna said:
While I can agree that the narrative that has been spun by some that the Pope/RCC is pro undocumented immigrants all the way, no breaks- this is not a full understanding of their position.
It's rooted in the understanding that we (at some point in time) were all strangers in a land. Being a good neighbor is being able to do what you can- some can do more than others.
I would say the Pope is 99.97% pro- undocumented migrants and has used his voice to loudly critique virtually any and all attempts to stop illegals from reaching the country.
The only possible thing he has said is that possibly, and he doesn't know, but some might have to be sent back; but first of all they need to be welcomed.
I'm not sure how that jives with a country having sovereign control over their borders (hint, it doesn't) but it is the most "pro-sovereignty" thing he has said.
I think the Pope has that element of hatred for America common among many born in Latin America. It is, like antisemitism, always lurking beneath the surface and the fact that Latin America has many failing governments drives some of that animus. The facts of failing governance and the evidence of so many fleeing is testimony that Spanish (read Catholic) colonization is far less successful than English (read Protestant) colonization. That's what really torques him, IMHO.
Scoopen Skwert said:I was a direct witness to the sinful turn within the formation of priests. Therefore my disgust at the acceptance of homosexual acts and communism.747Ag said:Yeah, well, it's a damnable communist "theology" so the less of it we hear from Church prelates the better.Scoopen Skwert said:
Not very liberation theology of them.
Anti-Americanism is an old saw and cultural theme among both European and Latin American intellectuals-denizens of universities who see the vibrancy, dynamism and excesses of American capitalism as being assaults on their identities. The European Union's economy has lost a lot of ground in the past 2 decades against the US economy in terms of growth for a variety of reasons, but the Euro has lost value. I spent a couple of weeks in Italy in 2011 and the ratio was $1.39 US to 1 Euro. It is now $1.03 to 1 Euro. It is the same with Latin American currencies, almost all having lost value, especially the Mexican peso.PabloSerna said:
I chuckled out load when I read the first part of this then realized you are being serious.
I know quite a few folks from Latin America and will be sure to ask them (in a serious voice) "why do you hate us??"
🚨🇻🇦🇺🇸 POPE FRANCIS BLASTS TRUMP’S IMMIGRATION PLANS
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) January 19, 2025
Pope Francis slammed Trump’s reported plans for mass immigration raids, calling it a “disgrace” during an interview on Italian TV.
Pope Francis:
"It would make the migrants, who have nothing, pay the unpaid bill.
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