Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy said:
94chem said:
The Banned said:
94chem said:
The Banned said:
94chem said:
PabloSerna said:
For his mourners, I will be interested to see where this goes regarding peace and charity towards those they believe are in opposition to whom Charlie Kirk sought to debate.
From what I have seen, it has triggered a backlash and is now some touchstone about how Christian someone is or not.
I pray they will have the courage to not play the victim card.
So a man was actually victimized for nothing other than his beliefs, and you're worried that people that agree with his beliefs may be concerned about becoming a victim? Odd take
After Columbine, there were some Christian groups that interpreted the supposed martyrdom of Rachel Scott (yes, she was a Christian), and Cassie Bernall (no, she didn't say yes) as a sign of imminent persecution, a call to war, in whatever form it needed to take. It was the sign that the world was coming for Christians. This victim mentality was used for political gain to mobilize renewed contributions, and threats of the "other" lurking around every corner.
I read Rachel's Tears from a different perspective, reading of an unspeakably evil act in a fallen world, and a gracious God who brought good to Rachel's family. The world has always hated Jesus. It's not something new. As Peter told us, we should not be surprised about what is happening as if it were strange or unexpected. Nor do we need to assign martyrdom to every evil act that occurs, in order for it to have special additional meaning. Off to BSF!
A call to war? I can't find a single instance of anything remotely like this. I did a deep dive to see if I forgot something and came up empty. You're exaggerating .
The italicized is ironic. So they were unnecessarily worried that the world was coming for Christians, while also acknowledging the world has always hated Jesus message... in other words, Christianity. It sounds like they were just recognizing the obvious.
Charlie was very clear that his faith is what influenced his political views. He was shot for those views. If someone is shot because of their belief in Jesus and His teachings, what other word would you use for it?
Charlie was a victim. There is no reason I can see to deny this. It's not a "victim mentality" to see that the world is becoming more and more hostile to Christianity. It's just a wake up call. But when Christians wake up to that fact and try to reinstate religious beliefs into mainstream thought, they're playing the "victim card"? What exactly should they do? Stay silent?
Again, just a really odd and rather contradictory take.
Google "Ron Luce response to Columbine"
There was a movement led by middle aged adults that fetishized martyrdom among young people. Luce had a massive ministry and was the leading proponent.
Was this like how you fetishized the "A&M grad student" and ICE on TAMU campus?
Why don't you show us on the doll where Christianity touched you?
Your arrogance drips through all your posts unlike any other poster I've known.
Other more godly posters on this board have more grace than I. I don't have that issue. You seem to enjoy dancing on the grave of Charlie Kirk with your posts. For that I say "shove it up your ass."
The A&M post-doc did disappear, did write a letter to his advisor saying he had been threatened to leave the country, and did self deport. His advisor did send a department wide letter that he received from the post-doc. I have a copy of the letter and would be happy to send it to you, as I have offered multiple times. Nothing to my knowledge has changed. I've posted my email address many times. If you would rather curse me, that is your prerogative.
As to why you choose to question my faith, that is also your choice. I say the following not to bolster my own credentials to God, for he knows me and has written in I John 5:13 that his word is what causes me to know that I have eternal life, and that he doesn't need my help in any way, yet he graciously allows me to participate in his work.
I am currently a student leader in Bible Study Fellowship, a ministry I have been in for 17 years. Our leaders meet every Saturday morning at 0630 for training, and then with our groups later in the week. This week we are studying Exile and Return. Last year was Revelation. My personal favorite book is Haggai, where it says multiple times to "carefully consider your ways." The minor prophets speak to me deeply, and I think they have much to say to American arrogance today.
My wife and I support a Compassion International child in Honduras, a Gospel for Asia child in India, and we have adopted internationally from China and Ukraine. These experiences have not bred arrogance, but rather through God's grace they have brought insights about how much my identity rests in Him, and not in nationality, race, etc. I know that I am adopted by God, and understand the theology of adoption, but practically, oh my goodness, God must put up with a lot if his experience is anything like mine as a parent.
I am a member of an SBC church. I have been a member of Bible churches and the PCA. My two college daughters are in the PCA. My college son is in an SBC church. I love the fact that after they have moved away, they have made their faith their own. Like John said, I have no greater joy than to know that my children are walking in the truth. Parenting older children has been incredibly challenging, but greatly rewarding in knowing that they love and follow Jesus.
You may curse me all you like, but I am disgusted right now by both sides of our political landscape. The left has been gone for quite some time. Support for things like NOW (although remember that W.A. Crisswell was pro-abortion), NARAL, PLO, campus thought police, etc., but there was at least a time not too long ago when they could offer credible governance and not abject dysfunction. The right has disgusted me, both with its attempts to co-opt religious authority, and with the willingness of religious leaders to be co-opted. This is the R&P Board, so names like Patterson, Jeffers, Devers, Dobson...told us what we had to do to preserve biblical Christianity, but so many times it was what we needed to do to preserve their power, political influence, ability to abuse women, or whatever power trip they were on. I believe that judgment begins inside the church (it's in the Bible!). This continual culture war, fear of the other, racial undertones, is producing a church that is inwardly focused and hard of heart. We treat every news story like it is like our final stand at Helm's Deep. This is not the freedom in Christ that I know. Perfect love casts out fear.
When I wrote my book almost 15 years ago (
https://amzn.to/4naPUuI) the currents were a bit different, but the premise has not changed. Believers need to carefully consider their ways, return to the Word of God, and learn to live in harmony with one another. I do not like a lot of what I'm seeing around me, and I find it profoundly disturbing when I see it being done in the name of Christ. If this puts me at odds with every political party on the planet, so be it.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
