TLM in B/CS

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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy
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747Ag said:

Foley is a good egg. Locals to BCS, highly recommend attending.

https://thomisticinstitute.org/upcoming-events/tamu-foley-mass

This interests me. I only fit into the "other" section. Is it open to anyone? Is it meant for students and faculty only?
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PabloSerna
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" The truth that has been traditionally preserved in Latin? (and Greek)"

Are you locking God into one language? Certainly the Old Testament counts as divine revelation- not in Latin.

The point I was making, and that you have shed more light upon, is that the truth is not locked into one 1962 liturgy or even the most recent 2003 update. Vatican II reforms are attempting to reach more people in their native language (vernacular). This is a good thing.
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Thanks for posting- I hope to attend.
cavscout96
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PabloSerna said:

" The truth that has been traditionally preserved in Latin? (and Greek)"

Are you locking God into one language? Certainly the Old Testament counts as divine revelation- not in Latin.

The point I was making, and that you have shed more light upon, is that the truth is not locked into one 1962 liturgy or even the most recent 2003 update. Vatican II reforms are attempting to reach more people in their native language (vernacular). This is a good thing.



Hardly. Your bishop seems to be the one mandating which languages can be used to evangelize the people.

Does not Rome publish all it's official communications in Latin?
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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy said:

747Ag said:

Foley is a good egg. Locals to BCS, highly recommend attending.

https://thomisticinstitute.org/upcoming-events/tamu-foley-mass

This interests me. I only fit into the "other" section. Is it open to anyone? Is it meant for students and faculty only?
I understand it to be open to the general public.
cavscout96
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747Ag said:

Foley is a good egg. Locals to BCS, highly recommend attending.

https://thomisticinstitute.org/upcoming-events/tamu-foley-mass


Im going to try to make this. A group of friends and I are reading Feser's primer on Thomas now.

I had no idea TI had a chapter on campus.
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cavscout96 said:

PabloSerna said:

" The truth that has been traditionally preserved in Latin? (and Greek)"

Are you locking God into one language? Certainly the Old Testament counts as divine revelation- not in Latin.

The point I was making, and that you have shed more light upon, is that the truth is not locked into one 1962 liturgy or even the most recent 2003 update. Vatican II reforms are attempting to reach more people in their native language (vernacular). This is a good thing.



Hardly. Your bishop seems to be the one mandating which languages can be used to evangelize the people.

Does not Rome publish all it's official communications in Latin?

This is about the 1962 Missal not the current Novus Ordo in Latin/English/Spanish/French/etc. I have frequently heard hymns in Latin, so it is not some prohibition on the language, rather it is about relating the role of the laity in the church and the world.

In the post-synodal apostolic exhortation Christifiedeles Laici, Pope John Paul II writes, " In the wake of the Second Vatican Council, at the beginning of my pastoral ministry, my aim was to emphasize forcefully the priestly, prophetic and kingly dignity of the entire People of God in the following words: "He who was born of the Virgin Mary, the carpenter's Son -as he was thought to be-Son of the living God (confessed by Peter), has come to make us 'a kingdom of priests' The Second Vatican Council has reminded us of the mystery of this power and of the fact that the mission of Christ -Priest, Prophet-Teacher, King-continues in the Church. Everyone, the whole People of God, shares in this threefold mission"

The mass was updated to better reflect this teaching that goes back to the beginning of the Church. Again, read or listen to the Bishops prior to Vatican II relating how disconnected the laity were from the aims of the church. This was not just about the mass in the vernacular (common tongue) although that was an important part, it was about relating the teachings through the mass. While we are still in the early stages of this liturgical reform and there are examples of irreverent practices, the aim remains true.

I recall a talk I heard once about the fact that many members of the Italian Mafia are Catholic. The church should make every effort, without changing the truth of Christ's message, to better related this mission to the laity. If most Catholics today struggle to believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, you can bet they know even less of their role as Priest, Prophet, and King.


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I don't really have a dog in this fight. I go to Mass to be in the presence and receive the Eucharist. As long as I can do that, the language is irrelevant.

Having said that, anything in Latin just hits harder. I suspect it is sensing you are connected with something ancient.

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Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy
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"Having said that, anything in Latin just hits harder. I suspect it is sensing you are connected with something ancient."

I agree 110%. I also had a lot of joy in Spanish language masses. I don't know why. The homily is always rough to understand but the mass itself is easy.

Even though protestant now I have to confess something.
I still doing the litugy of the hours.

Gregorian Chants are da bomb!

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PabloSerna
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Wonderful hymn of the medal of St. Benedict! Thanks.
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PabloSerna said:

Wonderful hymn of the medal of St. Benedict! Thanks.

I keep one in the center console when driving. I take hold of it very time Satan cuts me off, fails to use a turn signal, and/or drives slow in the fast lane.
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Does anyone know if St. Thomas will be celebrating an All Souls Day Latin Mass again this year? I have attended the past several years, but don't see a time listed on their website or in last Sunday's bulletin, or on their Facebook page.
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