Some musings on divorce and abortion

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Severian the Torturer
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This seems like the right board for it, as it's philosophical in question and verging on religious so I wanted to talk about this a bit. I have a family member going through a divorce and it's the first one in our family. The divorce seems like it it could be considered "warranted" by modern societal standards, but viewing it as a covenant, there literally are no acceptable standards.

Without getting too deeply religious, from a practical side, I don't understand how people with children can get divorced. This is largely anecdotal, but I have met so many people who are now adults, well into their 40's and 50's who still have major issues and hold ups over their parents divorce when they were young.

My own situation, I know that my family member would "die for their children" but they won't die to self and humble themselves enough to save their children a largely increased risk of adverse impact?

To liken this to abortion, I don't know how I could handle having parents who are pro-abortion. I would always think "yes you didn't abort me, but it seems to me that you admit there are certain conditions that exist where you would have rather aborted me in utero given your support for just that"

The same with divorce, as a child, how do you know that your parents will love you forever, when they've promised the same thing to their spouse, and broke that promise?

swimmerbabe11
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Child of divorce here. I learned plenty from my parents divorce and I understand it a lot better now than I did as a child, but I dont and never have expected them to do it on "my behalf". It would have been nice if they could have solved their issues and found help and been happy together, but they were not a good example of a loving Christian marriage. I wish they could have fixed that for their own sakes.

In fact, some sacrifices were made on my behalf that I deeply wish they would have been more "selfish" to better take care of their own happiness and future.
BonfireNerd04
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To liken this to abortion, I don't know how I could handle having parents who are pro-abortion. I would always think "yes you didn't abort me, but it seems to me that you admit there are certain conditions that exist where you would have rather aborted me in utero given your support for just that"

A girl in my Public Speaking class in High School had had two older siblings aborted. She was going to be #3, but this time her parents had a change of heart.

She was very much pro-life.
PabloSerna
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For me, marriage comes down to total self giving, not saving anything for yourself. Not everyone is ready for that or maybe when they did get married, held something back?

Abortion exists when man thinks his dominion over nature is absolute. As a religious person, I believe that God creates and we are stewards.
dermdoc
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Both suck and are usually based on selfishness.
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T dizl televizl
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I'll throw in my story for what it's worth.

My parents got divorced when I was a kid maybe around 12 or so.

I always told myself I'd never get divorced because of how bad it turned out for everyone.

I got married at 28 and within 2.5 years was divorced as my then wife was running around with a married man and wouldn't stop even after I figured it out.

Now we didn't have kids so I know it's different but I would've been in a mental asylum if I couldn't have gotten out of that relationship. Marriage takes two people to work and if one adamantly doesn't want it to work there's not much you can do.

I'm remarried now and we just had our first kid. I will say that when I look at that little sucker I can't imagine ever getting divorced and accepting that I'm not going to get to see him as much. That being said, I do know that there is evil in this world and if one of the spouses wants out they usually act in a way that will make that happen.
dermdoc
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T dizl televizl said:

I'll throw in my story for what it's worth.

My parents got divorced when I was a kid maybe around 12 or so.

I always told myself I'd never get divorced because of how bad it turned out for everyone.

I got married at 28 and within 2.5 years was divorced as my then wife was running around with a married man and wouldn't stop even after I figured it out.

Now we didn't have kids so I know it's different but I would've been in a mental asylum if I couldn't have gotten out of that relationship. Marriage takes two people to work and if one adamantly doesn't want it to work there's not much you can do.

I'm remarried now and we just had our first kid. I will say that when I look at that little sucker I can't imagine ever getting divorced and accepting that I'm not going to get to see him as much. That being said, I do know that there is evil in this world and if one of the spouses wants out they usually act in a way that will make that happen.


Great to hear. And I meant with divorce at least one party is selfish. It was not you.
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T dizl televizl
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Thanks. And agreed.
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