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I hope more follow his lead. I need to do it myself. I really liked The Bible in the year with Father Mike a couple of years ago. I know that Fr. Mike has added more content to it if you use Ascension App.


Now He's Going Back for More

Finished the entire Bible it’s been a 13 month word by word page by page no skimming journey. Humbled, enlightened and amazed at what I read and what I learned. I will rest and meditate on so much. I will begin it again.

— Tim Allen (@ofctimallen) February 5, 2026

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I started the Bible in a Year about a month ago on Hallow. I'm using the Great Adventure Bible. Lots of other great content on Hallow also.

I love that combo. I did the Bible in on Hallow last year with that same bible. Father Mike is great. Hallow has so much to offer.

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Great if so, but would still caution using the mind of a Jew to bring you closer to Christ. Seems counterintuitive to me.

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Sorry didn't have time to elaborate earlier because the wife was waiting on me.

Here is what is written about Genesis on the link describing the series which he is only doing Old Testament books: https://pragerstore.com/product/the-rational-bible-complete-collection

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The Rational Bible: Genesis

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Why do so many people think the Bible, the most influential book in world history, is outdated? Why do our friends and neighbors, and sometimes we ourselves, dismiss the Bible as irrelevant, irrational, immoral, or all of these things? This explanation of the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible, will demonstrate that the Bible is not only powerfully relevant to today's issues, but completely consistent with rational thought.

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I'm currently reading Genesis and here are the pages around the scripture you pointed out in earlier post:




Correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus was Jewish along with most of his disciples & early followers of The Way which we now call Christians.

In addition, Prager is great at telling the limitations of translation from Hebrew to English and other languages which I think is very relevant to individuals to understanding the Old Testament.

I believe Prager intention is to provide a good foundation of the Old Testament to both Jews & Christians.

I hope that helps.

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Sadly, he has missed the opportunity to point out that Genesis 3:15 is the first promise of redemption in scripture. This is one of the most important verses in all the Bible to begin to see the fullness of God's plan of redemption.

A study Bible would be a better use of one's time, it seems.

I think one should read several different translations of the Bible. On my coffee table I have 2 different bibles 1 Catholic & 1 Protestant. In addition, I also have 2 books devoted to a single book of the Old Testament & New Testament and one book on Pope Leo LIV all of which I'm in various stages of reading the Bibles I refer to them when a scripture comes up in my various readings that intrigued me. I'm currently reading Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim which has a lot of Bible verses that like on page 64-65 he has John 16:2. I can't remember which Bible version Ibrahim is using & couldn't find it skimming right now. I think it's good to look at various versions of the same scripture but to each his own.

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I think one should read several different translations of the Bible. On my coffee table I have 2 different bibles 1 Catholic & 1 Protestant. In addition, I also have 2 books devoted to a single book of the Old Testament & New Testament and one book on Pope Leo LIV all of which I'm in various stages of reading the Bibles I refer to them when a scripture comes up in my various readings that intrigued me. I'm currently reading Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim which has a lot of Bible verses that like on page 64-65 he has John 16:2. I can't remember which Bible version Ibrahim is using & couldn't find it skimming right now. I think it's good to look at various versions of the same scripture but to each his own.

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Yes, reading other things is a good practice. I just wouldn't encourage someone to read a book from a Jew and let that be the main source from which they draw their biblical understanding.

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Yes, reading other things is a good practice. I just wouldn't encourage someone to read a book from a Jew and let that be the main source from which they draw their biblical understanding.

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So would you prefer this Methodist Minister take on the whole Bible vs Prager talking about Old Testament books?

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Yes, reading other things is a good practice. I just wouldn't encourage someone to read a book from a Jew and let that be the main source from which they draw their biblical understanding.

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So would you prefer this Methodist Minister take on the whole Bible vs Prager talking about Old Testament books?

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No. We need discernment with anyone we look to for biblical guidance, even if they are Christian.

I've posted this before but worth adding to this thread. I started reading a One Year Chronological Bible in NLT over 3 1/2 years ago. When I finished at the end of 2023, I got the NIV Chronological and read in 2024. While it was great, I prefer Tyndale's (NLT) chronological layout better. I returned to the NLT for 2025 and staying with it this year. Each year, I have also read a different translation along side the NLT. I've used ESV and NIV in the past and reading NASB this year.

I recommend the One Year Chronological STUDY Bible in NLT. This study Bible has an overview for each daily reading that I find helpful. For my "along side" versions, I have used the Life Application Study Bible. Their study references go deeper, with lots of notes, maps, charts, etc.

One final recommendation, I love the You Version Bible app. You can pull up any translation, in virtually any language. Almost all translations have an audio option. I will have it stream the audio as I am reading. I'm an old guy and this helps keep me on track and minimizes my mind wandering.

Is this the app you're talking about?

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Is this the app you're talking about?

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Yes. Great app. 82 English translations and multiple other languages

Thanks

I won't say I take issue with the people who claim to be Christian but don't read the Bible, but I will say that as a Christian, I refuse to meet my Lord one day and have to explain why I couldn't find the time to read His scriptures. It's seems rather crazy to me for anyone to say that they Love and worship God, but can't find enough interest to learn who He is though the words He spoke to those before us.

I see it as similar to claiming you love you spouse but don't know anything about her/him nor care to take the time to research.

Here is a Sample of what you can find on Hallow, the Catholic Prayer App, including the Bible in 365 Days.
Great way to read the Entire Bible in a year or just the Daily Gospel, along with Homily's to go with them, and endless ways to pray to Our Lord.

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I really struggle with people that haven't taken the time to even attempt to read the bible and claim they are Christians. Especially people that have supposedly been in the faith for years. Without reading and discerning the scriptures you cannot even begin to know the story of the God you are worshiping. I would bet that most people that attend my church do not know the fathers name.

I had someone a few days ago try to tell me that lent was to remember the 40 days Jesus spent in the wilderness after his crucifixion. Completely botched the timeline and therefore the whole story of the God they have been worshiping for years.

I often times wonder how God will judge people who lived their whole lives attending weekly religious meetings once a week but were unwilling to take 2 hours out of their lives to read the gospels, much less the entire story.

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From my reading of Scripture, I believe we will be judged by how we treated other people. Not by how often we read the Bible or went to official church services. And fwiw, I read and have read my Bible daily for years and attend church. Read the famous parable of the sheep and goats. Or the rich man in Hades and Lazarus. What are people judged on? There is no mention of Bible reading or church attendance (and I bet the rich man did both).

And will add I have been done wrong more by purported daily Bible reading Christians than atheists/agnostics.

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I understand and agree with your message. My comment was not to boast about theology comprehension or anything of the like. I was more so pointing out the juxtaposition of people that claim to love and follow Jesus but haven't not even attempted to understand the heart of who they are loving or following because they haven't taken the time to read the scriptures.

I do not think salvation or sanctification is at all related to biblical scholarship or attending weekly religious meetings, but it is hard to have the former without the latter.

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My office manager who was a multi millionaire and extremely close family friend, did daily morning devotionals with me and others. Read her Bible often and attended church. While telling me and my wife she was "part of our family". And stole over a million dollars from me.

We have clergy, who obviously read their Bible and go to church, spew hellfire and brimstone while committing adultery or child abuse. I pray for them just like I do my office manager. We forgave my office manager and she never responded. And has never shown any remorse.

I think what is important is are you a Christ follower. Look at how people live and treat others. Agree that if you love the Lord you more than likely want to read the Bible and go to church to learn more about God. But everyone is different and it is not for me to judge.

What I am trying to say is that going to church and reading the Bible a lot does not mean one is a Christ follower. I have been burned more by Bible reading church goers than non believers. But still have love for God, know the Lord, have faith, and believe all this will work out for the glory of God,

By their fruits you will know them. And Bible reading and church attendance are not listed in the fruits of the Spirit which are peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, gentleness, goodness, faithfulness, and self control.

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I understand and agree with your message. My comment was not to boast about theology comprehension or anything of the like. I was more so pointing out the juxtaposition of people that claim to love and follow Jesus but haven't not even attempted to understand the heart of who they are loving or following because they haven't taken the time to read the scriptures.

I do not think salvation or sanctification is at all related to biblical scholarship or attending weekly religious meetings, but it is hard to have the former without the latter.

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And I believe it is hard to have the latter without the former.

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To be a Christian is to be a disciple of Christ. We can't learn about Christ, about God, can't know Him, without reading His word.

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I love to read the Bible. And am thankful it is so readily available.
But Christians had no Bible access for centuries. And about 80-90% could not read. They learned about God in other ways. Primarily through the Holy Spirit but also through tradition and oral teachings. And I believe they were disciples of Christ.

We have the Bible now.

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We have the Bible now.

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Did you read my post. I stated that I read mine daily and am happy for the access.

But there was a large chunk of time where there was no Biblical access. So according to some comments above, how was it possible for Christians to learn about God?

Heck when Luther proposed Sola Scriptura only about 10-20% of the population could read and Biblical access was very limited until the printing press was invented.

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Heck when Luther proposed Sola Scriptura only about 10-20% of the population could read and Biblical access was very limited until the printing press was invented.

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I wonder what the % would have been if Rome had made a priority to make it available to everyone.

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We have the Bible now.

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Did you read my post. I stated that I read mine daily and am happy for the access.

But there was a large chunk of time where there was no Biblical access. So according to some comments above, how was it possible for Christians to learn about God?

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The letters penned by the Apostles were being circulated widely early on, and as I understand it, most early churches had copies or shared them. I would have to believe they had copies of the Torah and writings of the Prophets as well. So, it was essential to be plugged into a church community in order to learn about God.

Regardless of what time period you live in, you have to KNOW God in order to believe upon Him for salvation. Today, we primarily KNOW God by reading His Word, which is captured in the Bible.

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Heck when Luther proposed Sola Scriptura only about 10-20% of the population could read and Biblical access was very limited until the printing press was invented.

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I wonder what the % would have been if Rome had made a priority to make it available to everyone.

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There was basically no availability until the printing press. And I agree that Rome suppressed personal reading of Scripture.

Most likely the copies would be hand written in Catholic Monasteries. Over the years many of them were destroyed by invasions of various groups. The monks from the various Monasteries gathered annually to share knowledge including that destroyed. Also, most people were illiterate until the Carolingian Renaissance when King Charlemagne asked the Catholic Church to set up schools at the Bishops residences and the Monasteries. The Church taught Grammar, Rhetoric, dialect, arithmetic, astronomy. The Church also established the University system.

So if you can read the Bible, toast the Catholic Church with a Beer, as they also perfected the brewing process.

There is a great book called How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.

Not saying you're arguing this at all, but it's commonly stated that the Church was so defensive and didn't want people to read the Bible so bad that they would lock the bibles in chains in the church.
Of course, this isn't at all because the Church didn't want people to read it, but because it was extremely expensive and difficult to print Bibles on a scale to where having them stolen from the church was a really big deal. At that point in time it was extremely important (and it still is important) to really trust clergymen.
Again, not at all claiming that you're arguing against this in one way or another. Just throwing all this out there.

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Not saying you're arguing this at all, but it's commonly stated that the Church was so defensive and didn't want people to read the Bible so bad that they would lock the bibles in chains in the church.
Of course, this isn't at all because the Church didn't want people to read it, but because it was extremely expensive and difficult to print Bibles on a scale to where having them stolen from the church was a really big deal. At that point in time it was extremely important (and it still is important) to really trust clergymen.
Again, not at all claiming that you're arguing against this in one way or another. Just throwing all this out there.

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I tend to agree with you. From my reading, there was basically no literacy and very limited access to Scripture of any sort. So in my opinion, for centuries almost all Christian teaching was done orally by people. Whether you want to call it tradition or whatever, I do not think there was much, if any, personal reading of Scripture.

And I get it from the Reformed perspective. They want to say they only believe Scripture and not men. I do not think history supports that view.

In the OT there were the books of the law. But I believe most of the teaching came from Moses and other leaders. So there were mortal men doing the teaching. And of course all the Reformers were mere men also. So even Sola Scriptura becomes whoever is interpreting the Scripture.

I understand the problem with the supposed infallibility of the Pope. But from my reading that only occurs in the case of ex cathedra which I believe has only occurred twice in history.

So basically every Christian is being taught by some mere mortal men. Just pick the one or ones you want to believe. On everything except the Gospel which never changes. That is why Paul tried to teach only that.

Love Hallow! I'm on a 988 day streak using it. They have added so much content in the last 2 years.

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Love Hallow! I'm on a 988 day streak using it. They have added so much content in the last 2 years.

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Yup, I just upgraded to a paid subscription at the start of lent, and the amount of content is amazing.

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Love Hallow! I'm on a 988 day streak using it. They have added so much content in the last 2 years.

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Yup, I just upgraded to a paid subscription at the start of lent, and the amount of content is amazing.

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The Hallow AI is really good too.

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Love Hallow! I'm on a 988 day streak using it. They have added so much content in the last 2 years.

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Yup, I just upgraded to a paid subscription at the start of lent, and the amount of content is amazing.

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The Hallow AI is really good too.

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Magisterium!