Catholics and abortion

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The Banned
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PabloSerna said:

… or maybe they just believe that vengeance belongs to God as it is written.

How much vengeance is lined up for those that either support abortion or it's legalization when they could be proactively working against it?
PabloSerna
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AG
Why do you believe capital punishment is still needed?
The Banned
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PabloSerna said:

Why do you believe capital punishment is still needed?

Where did I argue that capital punishment is still needed?
TRD-Ferguson
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I'm a Protestant (SBC) who married a Catholic. I attended RCIA but can't be accepted into the Church because I am previously divorced. Over 40 years ago.

I see these politicians and others who are Catholic and it seems because they were always Catholic they receive a pass on issues such as abortion, divorce, social issues, etc.

I see these Mark Walburg and Jonathan Roumey commercials about coming home.

I've seen the "Come Home" commercials on sports TV too.

I crave that yet there's no "coming home" for me. I've shared this with a Priest and was told I don't have enough passion. I've shared this with other Catholics and they tell me I should shop parishes until I locate a Priest who will "look the other way", "be more progressive" or "bend the rules". That's not something I want to do.

Meanwhile all of this has soured my wife's desire to attend church. We attended the Methodist church for many years as a compromise but its recent split was discouraging. Neither of us has attended church in several years now.

I do teach a Monday morning men's Bible study comprised of men of various denominations including Catholics. That's become my "church" but I know that's not church.

I am more and more convinced I should be in an Orthodox Church but I don't see a pathway. My wife doesn't want to go at all. It's not a good situation. We're in our 70's and were regularly at church from our 30's to our 60's.

I know this is venting but I needed to do it. This really gets to me so I take that as the Spirit moving me. I would appreciate any prayers.

Thank you.
Zachary Klement
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AG
The RCIA course you attended or priest you met with didn't give you any counsel on how to pursue an annulment and validate your current marriage? It sounds like the response on their end was not incredibly helpful or encouraging and I am sorry about that.

I don't have direct experience with this, but would think any decent Catholic Church would help point you in the right direction on how to go about beginning that process. I'd encourage you to reach out to other Catholic Churches or priests if that is something you desire.
The Banned
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Agree with Zachary. Was the process of annulment never laid out for you? Or did you hear about it and find it distasteful? Or maybe your former spouse has passed, in which case you are lawfully allowed to be married and just need a priest to validate it. Hopefully someone here on this board can help if you haven't found it locally.
PabloSerna
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AG
So glad you posted and on behalf of my Catholic brothers and sisters you initially encountered that said you needed more "passion"- I am sorry.

As has already been pointed out, you need to get in touch with the diocese office and request some legal advice on how to navigate the annulment of your previous marriage. Given the time and other factors, that shouldn't be difficult. Until then, I would go to whatever parish you feel most welcomed. It is importantly to keep whatever flame you have going until all the paperwork is in place.

I hear you on the other aspect of cradle Catholics running around living a wild life only to "come home" as if nothing happened. Let's focus instead on how it will be when you can finally walk up for communion and say "amen"- that will be a great day!
500,000ags
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Absolutely ridiculous. What kind of priest even talks like that to someone actively considering / wanting to join the congregation. This sort of rigidity is kind of what this entire thread is about.
TRD-Ferguson
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Thank you all for the replies. Very helpful.

We did discuss the annulment process. My RCIA priest was very helpful and supportive. My ex was not willing to agree to an annulment even though she had remarried. She's still not willing either.

It was another priest, not my RCIA priest, who questioned my passion. I was stunned and confused by that. My wife was beyond angry.

I've had nothing but support from Catholic friends. And, I don't have an argument with the Church. It's just frustrating to see some of these folk's outward actions and they fully participate yet I can't.




747Ag
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TRD-Ferguson said:

Thank you all for the replies. Very helpful.

We did discuss the annulment process. My RCIA priest was very helpful and supportive. My ex was not willing to agree to an annulment even though she had remarried. She's still not willing either.

It was another priest, not my RCIA priest, who questioned my passion. I was stunned and confused by that. My wife was beyond angry.

I've had nothing but support from Catholic friends. And, I don't have an argument with the Church. It's just frustrating to see some of these folk's outward actions and they fully participate yet I can't.

Ideally, they'd be all on the same team. But the reality is that some of our priests and bishops are hirelings even though on paper it says they're all part of Team Catholic. *sigh*

Sorry you're dealing with this.
10andBOUNCE
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Just an innocent bystander and curious....does it matter why someone was divorced in the RCC?
TeddyAg0422
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Yes. If I had a little more time right now I'd list them out, but if you search up the canons for grounds for an annulment, you can find the requirements
aggietony2010
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TRD-Ferguson said:

Thank you all for the replies. Very helpful.

We did discuss the annulment process. My RCIA priest was very helpful and supportive. My ex was not willing to agree to an annulment even though she had remarried. She's still not willing either.

It was another priest, not my RCIA priest, who questioned my passion. I was stunned and confused by that. My wife was beyond angry.

I've had nothing but support from Catholic friends. And, I don't have an argument with the Church. It's just frustrating to see some of these folk's outward actions and they fully participate yet I can't.







Sorry you're having to go through this.

Your ex-wife doesn't get to decide on the annulment though. She can not cooperate with the process, but ultimately it's a fact finding process. She can choose to provide facts, or she can choose not to, but her feelings on "agreeing to an annulment" are irrelevant.
 
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