Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Ellis Wyatt
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It's a shame how woefully unethical more than half of DC is. They care about their party and themselves far more than for the Republic.
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policywonk98 said:

Paul Sperry still doing work investigating this over at RCP/I.

Article confirms a lot of the chatter on this thread about Trump administration officials for first administration.

Not trying to pick a fight. This subject continues to be far more important to the Republic than Epstein stuff. That's sensationalism because of the underlying crimes in that case, tragic to be sure.

This case continues to have deep and dark implications to the survival of our Republic. Glad Sperry thinks that as well otherwise he would have already let this go, hardly anyone else is still reporting on it at all, much less this level of detail.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2025/11/20/exclusive_how_trumps_own_appointees_aided_russiagate_plot_against_him_1148719.html

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When Obama administration officials manufactured U.S. intelligence tying Donald Trump to Moscow following his stunning 2016 victory, they had no idea Trump's own political appointees would help them undermine Trump's presidency and his chances of reelection in 2020.

RCI's review of recently declassified documents and exclusive interviews with former Trump officials reveals for the first time how key members of Trump's cabinet and other appointees during his first term shrouded the previous administration's machinations and either deliberately or inadvertently misled the public into thinking the fake Russiagate intelligence was real.



Could there be a connection between Epstein and the lack of interest in this issue? And if not a direct connection, could Epstein simply be symptomatic of the widespread and wide-ranging corruption that has permeated DC? By wide-ranging, I mean not only financial corruption, but also possibly sexual, and an overall collapse of internal morals and virtues within our leaders?

Given how J Edgar Hoover literally had dirty pictures on everyone that he used as blackmail, could that have become the standard way of doing business in DC?

I'm just trying to figure out what motives Trump's picks like Pompeo and Barr had to cover up the scandal. Barr was a creature of DC, but Pompeo wasn't.
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As we have since learned, seemingly everyone had their finger in the NGO pie. Who knows how someone like Pompeo may have been getting paid off.
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Its just all very discouraging. A figurative atomic bomb hitting DC and allowing us a re-do would be preferable to watching the slow rolling decay, corrosive corrupt "Mos Eisley" hive of scum and villiany it has become.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

As we have since learned, seemingly everyone had their finger in the NGO pie. Who knows how someone like Pompeo may have been getting paid off.

Didn't he start and own an aerospace company in Kansas for a while? I have started to wonder if that was completely on the up-and-up or if, rather, its success was based on something other than his business acumen.
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I think a lot of Trump's first term staff were still somewhat working with the idea that the federal government bureaucracy was more or less neutral and operating in good faith. I think they did have a bias to see the bureaucracies as generally loyal to duty and country and not absolutely riddled with partisan politics and self interested or ideologically motivated employees and managers. They are only as good as the information and guidance their own staffs are supplying to them and I think there was too much trust and not enough verification.

The Obama administration was ruthless in moving in and promoting ideologically leftist bureaucracy on top of there already having been a bias towards the left that comes from the types of people drawn to such employment.
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MouthBQ98 said:

I think a lot of Trump's first term staff were still somewhat working with the idea that the federal government bureaucracy was more or less neutral and operating in good faith. I think they did have a bias to see the bureaucracies as generally loyal to duty and country and not absolutely riddled with partisan politics and self interested or ideologically motivated employees and managers. They are only as good as the information and guidance their own staffs are supplying to them and I think there was too much trust and not enough verification.

The Obama administration was ruthless in moving in and promoting ideologically leftist bureaucracy on top of there already having been a bias towards the left that comes from the types of people drawn to such employment.

You're most likely spot-on.

Add to that ideological bias the fact that most employees in those bureaucracies have spent their entire adult lives working within a single agency. They develop a complete stove-pipe perspective and the absolute faith that whatever is best for their agency is also what's best for America, and that anything bad for their agency is bad for America. The military recognizes that problem and attempts to address it by requiring all flag-level officers to have served in a "purple suit" role in order to broaden their perspectives. It doesn't work all that well, but at least the military recognizes the problem. The agencies don't recognize the problem at all.

The agency bureaucrats also develop an attitude that only people inside the Beltway know what's going on and need to lead all of the stupid sheep that live outside DC.
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The Obama administration was ruthless in moving in and promoting ideologically leftist bureaucracy on top of there already having been a bias towards the left that comes from the types of people drawn to such employment.

Rush Limbaugh often discussed that Obama put people in place that he knew would do things the way he would, the most radical, punitive, leftist way, so that he himself didn't have to dirty his hands. He was confident that his radical minions would do it all. He installed them throughout every wing of his regime. It has been disastrous for the nation.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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Not to put too fine a point on this but citing a news report that the FBI planted in the media is circular sourcing.

Bad on the FISA court judge for not questioning why that citation was included.
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Secolobo said:




This is not vindication. When as many people are inundated with news of what the democrats have done to Trump, his team and to the country as there were with false stories of Russia collusion then that is vindication.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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I can't imagine a more receptive administration and DOJ to this evidence. What will be done about it?
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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Not a chance they will proceed BUT there might be a lot more publicity of Democrat corruption which would be a start. Maybe they do take out some first level underlings that should have not followed unlawful directives or participated in them. Just following orders is no defense.
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It pisses me off that Jan 6 got prime time coverage and actual treason gets absolutely nothing
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Obama will claim he had to look into it, no matter how far fetched, because the job of the President is to protect the country.

Under Trump v. US, he would almost certainly have immunity.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
nortex97
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Pilger retired from the DoJ in 2022. That's a dead end.

Sigh, at least we have words saying people will still wind up being held accountable.

Myself, I am too cynical to trust/believe those words, but as usual I hope I am stunningly wrong.

These actions/operations were not simply NoVa/DC-based, but in fact global, so I don't see how the grand juries/investigations should be centered/based only in the former. In fact, I have seen multiple reports of a grand jury operating out of Florida, but of course no hard evidence/indictments publicly released.
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