Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking of Minors

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In reply to Sq 17 • 9:32a, 7/8/19
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Sq 17 said:
according to Google , Age of consent in NY is 17 , federal law age of consent is 12. Dershowitz , Clinton etc could have a problem but that would be a state law enforcement issue.


It is not an age of consent issue. The victims here are alleging they were being trafficked and that there was no consent.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 9:34a, 7/8/19
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BenFiasco14 said:
Comeys daughter needs to recuse herself. What a joke.


On what basis?

She has no conflict as to Epstein prosecution. That tweeter is full of it.
contributions to the Clinton Campaign would be a big one! You're not that inquisitive are you?!
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In reply to Not a Bot • 9:38a, 7/8/19
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Cactus Jack said:
Sq 17 said:
according to Google , Age of consent in NY is 17 , federal law age of consent is 12. Dershowitz , Clinton etc could have a problem but that would be a state law enforcement issue.
Is that true? WTF?
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In reply to PorkEatingCrusader • 9:41a, 7/8/19
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PorkEatingCrusader said:
BMX Bandit said:
BenFiasco14 said:
Comeys daughter needs to recuse herself. What a joke.


On what basis?

She has no conflict as to Epstein prosecution. That tweeter is full of it.
contributions to the Clinton Campaign would be a big one! You're not that inquisitive are you?!
That is not dispositive of the recusal issue in and of itself. There would have to be more to require recusal.

That having been said, it is a very bad look and has the appearance of impropriety. A cautious and ethical attorney would take that into serious consideration.

On another note, from reading the indictment, there is nothing that suggests why the Public Corruption Unit is involved in this case. Nothing.

I expect more indictments because of that.
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 9:44a, 7/8/19
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backintexas2013 said:
This thread has gotten even worse. Maybe someone should porn blast it so we can start over.


Just make sure it's not underage.
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In reply to captkirk • 9:45a, 7/8/19
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captkirk said:
Cactus Jack said:
Sq 17 said:
according to Google , Age of consent in NY is 17 , federal law age of consent is 12. Dershowitz , Clinton etc could have a problem but that would be a state law enforcement issue.
Is that true? WTF?
No.
Federal statutory rape law makes it criminal to engage in a sexual act with another person who is between the age of 12 and 16 if they are at least four years younger than you. Each state takes a different approach as the age of consent has ranged from 10 to 18.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:46a, 7/8/19
Maybe they're on it for future indictments?
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 9:58a, 7/8/19
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HTownAg98 said:
Maybe they're on it for future indictments?
Seems a very safe assumption. Or the reporting of PCU's involvement is inaccurate.

From the timelines I have seen, Comey was still DAG when the Palm Beach Police received the first report in March 2005 of Epstein's activities. (Comey left in August of 2005).

Bob McCallum was acting DAG until March 2006 when Paul McNulty was confirmed. But McNulty only lasted about a year and a few months. Then Craig Morfor was acting DAG, until Mark Filip was confirmed.

Since emails reference obstruction coming from DC and specifically the "DAG" it is unclear which of those I listed might be under investigation by PCU or if it were someone else.

ETA: If Comey was DAG when the obstruction from DC occurred, his daughter most certainly should be recused.
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In reply to thirdcoast • 10:11a, 7/8/19
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TurkeyBaconLeg said:
Based on the indictment, this appears to be mainly focused on Epstein and his encounters with minors at his various homes under the ploy of "getting a massage"

I highly doubt now that any big names will be roped into this due to the charges being based on stuff that happened in relation to massages for him specifically.

It looks like Bill Clinton and all the others will be in the clear for these indictments.
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The reason Epstein got off hook with the deal the first time around was because he had so much OTHER dirt on powerful public figures. I hope the screws are tightened so much that his legal team desperately leaks details on Clinton etc.


This is not about punishing what JE did. It's about using it to unravel a huge swath of heinous crimes done by people connected to him.
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In reply to Synopsis • 10:17a, 7/8/19
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BMX is spot on, as usual.

BTW, some of you all need to learn the meaning of trolling. Just because someone is a lib doesn't make them a troll.

Whenever he, she, or it has the opportunity, it's always looking down its nose at everyone on this forum. I know the type and can't stand them.

Spot on my ass.
Not everyone on the forum.
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10:19a, 7/8/19
We are fixing to get a lesson in how the powerful and rich get away with heinous crimes. Our fault, we put them on pedestal, ignored their shortcomings and abdicated power to them for our own gain. Nothing will happen, they wiall walk
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10:20a, 7/8/19
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Watching the presser. FBI guy said that investigative journalist reports prompted them to reopen the case.
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10:23a, 7/8/19
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FBI is asking anyone that has ever been sexually abused by Epstein to come forward and call them on their hotline.


This is perhaps how the case will expand to others...
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In reply to aggiehawg • 10:25a, 7/8/19
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Watching the presser. FBI guy said that investigative journalist reports prompted them to reopen the case.
I believe it was the Miami Herald that forced their hand.
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In reply to Charpie • 10:28a, 7/8/19
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It was.

With regard to Acosta, have to wonder if he was informed that the state of Florida didn't intend to send Epstein to prison for many many years? IOW, was he misled? Or did he know?
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 10:36a, 7/8/19
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doubledegreeAG said:
I do it when I get insulted first. Like when I asked your buddy if he thought Alefantis was a pedo and he responded with an insult.

I'm not a hypocrite like you.

I insulted you because I chose not to believe in your crackpot conspiracy theory. And your immediate response was to insinuate I was a child molester. You're a real piece of work.


If you had seen the guys social media posts and then the subsequent deletion of said posts perhaps you would have a different opinion. An innocent man doesn't rush to delete his history when sunlight exposes it for what it is.

Calling me a crackpot without any attempt at discussion makes you the piece of work. What do you expect when you treat people like that? A thank you note?
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In reply to Owlagdad • 10:38a, 7/8/19
Owlagdad said:
We are fixing to get a lesson in how the powerful and rich get away with heinous crimes. Our fault, we put them on pedestal, ignored their shortcomings and abdicated power to them for our own gain. Nothing will happen, they wiall walk

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We are fixing to get a lesson in how the powerful and rich get away with heinous crimes. .....
Unfortunately, I agree. I am getting tired of this lesson, it repeats A LOT.

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we put them on pedestal, ignored their shortcomings
I doubt this, people in this country have had a somewhat less than flattering opinion of politicians.

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.... abdicated power to them for our own gain.
No doubt,

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Nothing will happen, they wiall walk.
Very disheartening.

On the bright side I learned a new contraction "wiall", I like it.



Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to Owlagdad • 10:39a, 7/8/19
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Owlagdad said:
We are fixing to get a lesson in how the powerful and rich get away with heinous crimes. Our fault, we put them on pedestal, ignored their shortcomings and abdicated power to them for our own gain. Nothing will happen, they wiall walk



^^THIS^^

NOTHING is going to happen to any of these people. The fix is in. Too many partisan operatives in positions to look the other way in terms of evidence or prosecutable offenses. The fact that Comey's daughter is in the mix is by design. The swamp is all encompassing. We are ruled by power-hungry, amoral gangsters that stay in power by compromising other elected officials. You will NEVER convince me that "the powers that be" didnt have"dirt" on John Roberts for his Obamacare ruling or any of the Republican votes against repeal/replace. Short of an armed revolt by we the people, nothing will change. I have ZERO faith in our corrupt government or the various agencies. We point fingers at 3rd world, Banana Republic corruption. We are just as bad.
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10:43a, 7/8/19
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Epstein isn't going to walk anytime soon. Berman has said he will seek no bail. If there is additional evidence that Epstein is a threat to the public (a resumption of his previous activities that are under grand jury review) plus he's flight risk, he won't make bail.

I don't expect this indictment against him to be the only one.
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In reply to doubledegreeAG • 10:45a, 7/8/19
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HTownAg98 said:
doubledegreeAG said:
I do it when I get insulted first. Like when I asked your buddy if he thought Alefantis was a pedo and he responded with an insult.

I'm not a hypocrite like you.

I insulted you because I chose not to believe in your crackpot conspiracy theory. And your immediate response was to insinuate I was a child molester. You're a real piece of work.


If you had seen the guys social media posts and then the subsequent deletion of said posts perhaps you would have a different opinion. An innocent man doesn't rush to delete his history when sunlight exposes it for what it is.

Calling me a crackpot without any attempt at discussion makes you the piece of work. What do you expect when you treat people like that? A thank you note?

I actually did go back and look at those posts, and they have been thoroughly debunked as misleading and sometimes just flat wrong. That being said, I'll apologize for calling you a crackpot. People are entitled to believe whatever they want.
I'll await yours.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 10:47a, 7/8/19
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Epstein isn't going to walk anytime soon. Berman has said he will seek no bail. If there is additional evidence that Epstein is a threat to the public (a resumption of his previous activities that are under grand jury review) plus he's flight risk, he won't make bail.

I don't expect this indictment against him to be the only one.


Epstein is a nobody compared to the people that used his services. JE crimes are heinous and he should go to jail... forever; if not executed (if only that were an option). I am too jaded and have no faith in our justice department to prosecute any powerful democrat politician.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 10:53a, 7/8/19
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Fine. I'm sorry to insinuate such a thing. It is horrible, and I shouldn't have done it.

I'm passionate about it because back in 2015 when the Podesta emails came out I saw his Instagram with my own eyes. Pics of little children like that 3 year old girl taped to a table. FBI recognized pedo terminology all over the place. The guy was promoting a band on his Facebook page that literally sang songs about abusing children sexually complete with a music video featuring a pedo symbol clearly displayed on the base drum.

It left a mark. Again, I sincerely apologize.
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In reply to doubledegreeAG • 10:55a, 7/8/19
doubledegreeAG said:
Fine. I'm sorry to insinuate such a thing. It is horrible, and I shouldn't have done it.

I'm passionate about it because back in 2015 when the Podesta emails came out I saw his Instagram with my own eyes. Pics of little children like that 3 year old girl taped to a table. FBI recognized pedo terminology all over the place. The guy was promoting a band on his Facebook page that literally sang songs about abusing children sexually complete with a music video featuring a pedo symbol clearly displayed on the base drum.

It left a mark. Again, I sincerely apologize.

Apology accepted. We're good.
I'm currently dealing with this on a personal level. A close friend of ours was married to an animal (I refuse to call him a man) who was (allegedly) sexually abusing his daughter and possibly his son. I hung out with this person on several occasions, and it sickens me to think I ever associated with this individual.
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In reply to will25u • 11:00a, 7/8/19
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Are there pics of Trump getting peed on?
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In reply to will25u • 11:34a, 7/8/19
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will25u said:
Five years? Highly unlikely, IMO. He's 66. Fifteen years with the ability to get parole in ten, when he's 76...maybe.
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11:35a, 7/8/19
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I can't imagine they'd go through all of this for a five year sentence.
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11:38a, 7/8/19
I guess it depends on how much dirt he has, and how reliable it is.
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11:39a, 7/8/19
If he rolled on all of his clients, does anyone think he would live past five years?
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In reply to [removed post] • 11:41a, 7/8/19
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I predict Epstein gets 15 yrs & nobody on the left gets hurt.



Yep. I don't for one second believe anyone else big gets indicted. The elites never ever pay for their crimes no matter how heinous they may be. The only time they get punished is through mob justice aka the French Revolution when the people get fed up and take matters into their own hands.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 11:43a, 7/8/19
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I guess it depends on how much dirt he has, and how reliable it is.
The last time they had phone message pads and his Little Black Books. Maybe he kept that habit up too.

Plus they have his phone and computer and can easily get a Article III search warrant for the content, unless it is all encrypted.

One of Epstein's supposed buddies was Prince Andrew, BTW. Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Branson was mixed up in that somehow, as well. The guy flew in some very rarified air.
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In reply to will25u • 11:44a, 7/8/19
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Why only those that "paid"?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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