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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Well it's not rioting, but calls from Flynn and the Az GOP chair for Trump to "cross the Rubicon", a la Julius Caesar, is a reference to the end of a republic and beginning of a civil war. And taking up arms has been mentioned many times on F16. Hasn't happened yet though and I imagine it's just talk.

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paperback said:

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eric76 said:

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Eric76 would have to have started with any credibility to begin with. Dude is the most TDS affected branch covidian on this board.

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Those without credibility are Trump and his cult.

I think most of us don't realize we are true liberals. That is because we believe in the freedom and the rights of the individual as established in our constitution. Relative to the rest of the world we are liberal. What is happening now is something quite different and many call it progessivism. These wish to either ignore the constitution by obtaining rulings from courts who truly have no authority or jurisdiction in those particular matters. Thus the constitution is amended without going through the difficult process of truly amending it. The ultimate goal seems to overthrow the constitution and substitute government control and socialism for the constitution. As accepted among most Communists, socialism leads to communism. Leftism is probably another good word for this progressivism, and unfortunately, unless we assert our value for individual rights, we will lose this battle for the future of our constitution.

North Korea, Cuba, and China show that it can last for generations of human suffering and oppression before it collapses or morphs into a sort of totalitarian Facism of sorts. You don't want to suffer through it just to have a few people have learned a lesson. That lesson isn't learned, they just lost control in a collapse.

eric76 said:

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coolerguy12 said:

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paperback said:

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eric76 said:

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Eric76 would have to have started with any credibility to begin with. Dude is the most TDS affected branch covidian on this board.

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Those without credibility are Trump and his cult.

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Seriously - you have to be paid to say crap like that - Who hired you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_Internet_propaganda

eric76 said:

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coolerguy12 said:

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paperback said:

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eric76 said:

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Eric76 would have to have started with any credibility to begin with. Dude is the most TDS affected branch covidian on this board.

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Those without credibility are Trump and his cult.

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https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3160508

Like I said, no credibility. Just a fear mongering branch covidian.

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I think most of us don't realize we are true liberals. That is because we believe in the freedom and the rights of the individual as established in our constitution. Relative to the rest of the world we are liberal. What is happening now is something quite different and many call it progessivism. These wish to either ignore the constitution by obtaining rulings from courts who truly have no authority or jurisdiction in those particular matters. Thus the constitution is amended without going through the difficult process of truly amending it. The ultimate goal seems to overthrow the constitution and substitute government control and socialism for the constitution. As accepted among most Communists, socialism leads to communism. Leftism is probably another good word for this progressivism, and unfortunately, unless we assert our value for individual rights, we will lose this battle for the future of our constitution.

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We need to reclaim this label too. Liberal is not a bad thing. Leftism is dangerous and malevolent. The current political movement that is opposed to individual liberty and personal responsibility is the antithesis of liberal.

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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Apparently you don't know the difference between rioting and assembling. Since the election, how many murders have you seen at gatherings, burnt down cities, people standing in traffic, fights with the police? This is from 74 million people that think they were cheated. We all know what would have happened if Trump won.

Head in the sand much?

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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How many buildings have been burnt down since 11/3 again?

If the left didn't want so much dissatisfaction for how this election was run, they would have followed the election laws that are designed to provide transparency and confidence in the vote.

You throw those out, and, guess what? You have half of the country with no confidence in the vote.

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coolerguy12 said:

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paperback said:

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eric76 said:

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

---

How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Eric76 would have to have started with any credibility to begin with. Dude is the most TDS affected branch covidian on this board.

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Those without credibility are Trump and his cult.

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This is the new left talking point.

The sweeping sentiments of nationalism and populism in this country will outlast Trump. The left is moving too fast, too forcefully, and the patriotic workers of this country are tired of the elite and their value signaling.

This scares the **** out of the left.

The references to Trumpism and Trump cult is just a way to try and demonize that mode of political thought. If you hear someone say either of those things, just look right through them as someone that hates this country and the hard working people that made it, and are advocating for communism and globalism.

BusterAg said:

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eric76 said:

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coolerguy12 said:

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paperback said:

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eric76 said:

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Eric76 would have to have started with any credibility to begin with. Dude is the most TDS affected branch covidian on this board.

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Those without credibility are Trump and his cult.

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This is the new left talking point.

The sweeping sentiments of nationalism and populism in this country will outlast Trump. The left is moving too fast, too forcefully, and the patriotic workers of this country are tired of the elite and their value signaling.

This scares the **** out of the left.

The references to Trumpism and Trump cult is just a way to try and demonize that mode of political thought. If you hear someone say either of those things, just look right through them as someone that hates this country and the hard working people that made it, and are advocating for communism and globalism.

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If tax reform that returns money to my pocket, holding our friends and enemies accountable, addressing the elephant in the room head on (China), and generally supporting the USA over anyone else means I'm in a cult....then tell me when worship service is because I'm all in.

YouBet said:

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BusterAg said:

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eric76 said:

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coolerguy12 said:

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paperback said:

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eric76 said:

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91AggieLawyer said:

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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You keep trying, don't you.

Radical left: burning, lootings, shooting cops, stealing elections (et.al.)
Radical conservatives: criticizing the left for the above things and a few mean tweets about other things

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How about the calls for the cult to start rioting in the streets because they feel so entitled to having Trump reelected even though Trump lost the election?

I think that Trump is doing as much damage to this country as the riots and protests this year by his refusal to accept that he lost the election and creating doubt about his cult and even those outside the cult.

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What calls, and by whom of anyone in power on the right? I certainly wouldn't condone such actions and I don't think you would either. And President Trump will step down.

ETA. You have lost all credibility with statements like this. ALL credibility.

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Eric76 would have to have started with any credibility to begin with. Dude is the most TDS affected branch covidian on this board.

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Those without credibility are Trump and his cult.

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This is the new left talking point.

The sweeping sentiments of nationalism and populism in this country will outlast Trump. The left is moving too fast, too forcefully, and the patriotic workers of this country are tired of the elite and their value signaling.

This scares the **** out of the left.

The references to Trumpism and Trump cult is just a way to try and demonize that mode of political thought. If you hear someone say either of those things, just look right through them as someone that hates this country and the hard working people that made it, and are advocating for communism and globalism.

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If tax reform that returns money to my pocket, holding our friends and enemies accountable, addressing the elephant in the room head on (China), and generally supporting the USA over anyone else means I'm in a cult....then tell me when worship service is because I'm all in.

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You and half the country.

The Left hates that, so they do what they do about every problem they face. Blame it on Trump.

"Antifa is just an idea."

I notice there aren't any riots in China. CCP Joe wants that here too.

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You can be a liberal and realize a lot of what the current cool liberals want is absolute bull**** that does not represent what a liberal is supposed to be.

No one should fear words from another person that does not threaten to kill you, rape you, or put you in the hospital.

This whole safe space, triggered, microaggression stuff is just bull*****

It is weaker than my justified terror of dogs.

I hate modern liberals for the most part.

They are a real embarrassment to people who actively worked to make changes

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They aren't liberal, they are marxists.

Another example of the left destroying themselves, one slip at a time....

LA County DA's Condescending Comments

If you don't want to click, the radical DA called out hecklers saying "

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"It's unfortunate that some people do not have enough education to keep their mouth shut so we can talk,"

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The hecklers were families of murder victim that were objecting to, essentially, reducing sentence of murderer.

More elitism from the lefties. No time for uneducated, unwashed, deplorables!

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The massive scale of pure leftism that is growing in this country will eventually fade, it's like a snake eating itself. Common sense is still around and many moderates have recognized their bull**** for what it is. This pandemic highlighted their elitism even more so. I think when all is said and done future generations will see that the progressive agenda is a false prophet

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the problem is that leftism is a massive black hole and will drag everyone else down with it.

Great societies never fail from outside attacks. They fail from within. We're on that path. I do not expect my grandchildren will know the freedoms I have in their lifetime. Because they're born with the proverbial 'silver phone in their mouths", they'll never know a life where they can travel without someone, or some company knowing their whereabouts 24/7.

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hedge said:

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The massive scale of pure leftism that is growing in this country will eventually fade, it's like a snake eating itself. Common sense is still around and many moderates have recognized their bull**** for what it is. This pandemic highlighted their elitism even more so. I think when all is said and done future generations will see that the progressive agenda is a false prophet

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the problem is that leftism is a massive black hole and will drag everyone else down with it.

Great societies never fail from outside attacks. They fail from within. We're on that path. I do not expect my grandchildren will know the freedoms I have in their lifetime. Because they're born with the proverbial 'silver phone in their mouths", they'll never know a life where they can travel without someone, or some company knowing their whereabouts 24/7.

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In our situation, I think that our fall from within is being orchestrated from outside attacks.

One other note on this subject.

If you look at history, leftism has taken between a few million to tens of millions of lives with it every time it has failed.

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Trumpism will destroy the right as well.

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It's a lot like "leftism", only different.

IMO leftism is the product of a successful and decadent society. Basically, we can afford to indulge in this stupid ***** But, if something catastrophic happens and people have to fight to survive, all that stupid **** goes away and those that stick to that idealogy will be weeded out.

Goebbels put it best:

"This will always remain one of the best jokes of democracythat it gave its deadly enemies the means by which it was destroyed."

Trump and his merry band showed how true that is.

When we continue to play the morally and intellectually bankrupt "both sides are bad!" game, we've lost. At some point we have to realize that there are some opinions and viewpoints that honestly have no value, no place in society. To treat them as equals gives evil the only foot in the door it needs.

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Fortunately there are a **** ton of hard working people in this country who won't tolerate laziness

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Work ethic won't save you from what is coming. The elites know they have a chance to permanently squash you and every subsequent generation, forever. With technology, they will be able to do it and you won't even know what has happened until it's too late.

Religious social conservatives have the most kids by far but that isn't going to matter when tech advances as fast as it does. That's a generational strategy that tech has made irrelevant. Things are happening now that would be unthinkable just 10 years ago.

We're going to get a cyberpunk dystopia just without any of the cool tech for us plebes and far more actual suffering.

eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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Totalitarianism didn't have technology available to perpetuate it like it does now. Just look at China at how utterly complacent and accepting their population is now. They do literally anything their government says on the whole without question because it's suicide to do otherwise. Social credit scores, etc. are designed around pure control and the average citizen can do absolutely nothing about it.

What happened in the past is nothing in comparison to what is coming. Technology will allow for 24/7 monitoring on a scale the KGB could scarcely fathom. There will be no escape and no where to go, except your mind.

Barring some sort of global catastrophe, a system with this level of control will perpetuate itself through massive inertia alone.

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eric76 said:

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Radicalism will inevitably destroy itself. Whether on the left or the right, radicalism is inherently anti-Capitalist and anti-Freedom.

Unfortunately radical countries can last for a very long time, but they will eventually fail.

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Totalitarianism didn't have technology available to perpetuate it like it does now. Just look at China at how utterly complacent and accepting their population is now. They do literally anything their government says on the whole without question because it's suicide to do otherwise. Social credit scores, etc. are designed around pure control and the average citizen can do absolutely nothing about it.

What happened in the past is nothing in comparison to what is coming. Technology will allow for 24/7 monitoring on a scale the KGB could scarcely fathom. There will be no escape and no where to go, except your mind.

Barring some sort of global catastrophe, a system with this level of control will perpetuate itself through massive inertia alone.

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A blue star for both your posts. What you foretell is inevitable, I'm afraid, barring the collapse or his return.

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This is why accelerationism is gaining traction among the far right. Many see what is coming in the future and know that if it's a slow boil then we cannot stop it but if the elites push too hard too fast, then the system will come crashing down and chaos will result. At that point, the situation would be up for grabs.

Probably true, given time. But it's going to wreak havoc on a lot of lives before it does.

More likely that leftism will destroy this country but I pray you are right.

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Fortunately there are a **** ton of hard working people in this country who won't tolerate laziness

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And some of them are in Congress, and have woke up...

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In Congress, the most brutal battles are internal. House Democratic colleagues of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sent her a chilly message yesterday when she lost 46-13 to a fellow New Yorker, Rep. Kathleen Rice, in a secret ballot for a seat on the powerful Energy and Commerce Committee.

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A Dem, yes, but rule#1...