Crenshaw: Congress isn't paid enough

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Crenshaw is approaching paul ryan level disappointment.
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Looks like we need to keep an eye on Dan.
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You think Nancy Pelosi would allow such a blasphemous law to be put in front of her?
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I'd wager that most in Congress are "paid" far more than they deserve. There are a ****-ton of stupid people up there who have earned and will earn well beyond what us average folk will.
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Eyepatch McCain is hopelessly lost. He is a turncoat.
I will be voting for his primary opponent and urge all to do the same.
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SW-14 said:

suburban cowboy said:

Can't wait to hear Michael Berry doo doo all over DC Dan Cringeshaw some more over this one
I don't get to listen to him much anymore, but I remember he was a huge backer when Crenshaw was running the first time. Has he really changed his tune?


yes, he is actively working to expose crenshaw as a fraud conservative, swamp creature now
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SW-14 said:

Lol. Their salary alone puts them ahead of about 95% of the rest of the country, and that's not including their allowance, pension, etc.


I do agree that - with that salary (and let's not count all the free meals and parties and transportation) - calling themselves "public servants" is insulting. At the same time, I can't imagine having to live in DC for such a low income.
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zephyr88 said:

SW-14 said:

Lol. Their salary alone puts them ahead of about 95% of the rest of the country, and that's not including their allowance, pension, etc.
$174k plus "benefits"
Salary - $174,000 per year
Office Expenses Budget - $944,671
MRA Budget - $1,258,620

Not to mention separate health and retirement systems, of which retirement kicks in after a whopping 5 years at 80% of their salary - for life.
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I'd argue he is correct in the terms of congress isn't paid enough in straightforward compensation to attract the best people to the job, such that the true incentive is any plausibly legal but unethical or corrupt means to extract wealth from such a position of authority is the true incentive.

In a competition between ~200K for doing the work for their voting constituents and vastly more from special interests in long term election support and or in promises of delayed or indirect reward, the voter isn't winning.

The question is if increasing the compensation matters. If it would draw in a bigger pool of better candidates, or if it would just be more income for the egomaniacs that want the position mostly for status and self gratification regardless of financial reward.

I'm not sure paying more would attract better enough better people to matter because you already need a huge ego and big money backing to even run.

But, his argument isn't entirely without merit. Bits just a little simplistic and unrealistic in the current political environment.
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Just in recent, off the cuff memory, DC Dan Cringeshaw has done the following:
- Vote for a federal vaccine database that costs $400MM
- out perform Pelosi in 2021 stock market gains
- call Jesus a hero archetype like Superman & be a complete dick to the young lady asking him about that statement
- claim congressmen as victims that are underpaid poors

what am I missing?
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Fine. Congress can trade whatever they want, but their positions become part time. They get 6 months per session to pass bills, during which they have a trading black out just like executives and insiders at publicly traded companies. The rest of the time they go home and work their full time job, and once their 6 month session is complete they can trade with othout blackouts.

Perhaps the senate can be full time for "advice and consent" purposes.
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World Economic Forum young leader gonna World Economic Forum young leader.

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suburban cowboy said:

Just in recent, off the cuff memory, DC Dan Cringeshaw has done the following:
- Vote for a federal vaccine database that costs $400MM
- out perform Pelosi in 2021 stock market gains
- call Jesus a hero archetype like Superman & be a complete dick to the young lady asking him about that statement
- claim congressman as victims that are underpaid

what am I missing?


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MouthBQ98 said:

I'd argue he is correct in the terms of congress isn't paid enough in straightforward compensation to attract the best people to the job, such that the true incentive is any plausibly legal but unethical or corrupt means to extract wealth from such a position of authority is the true incentive.

In a competition between ~200K for doing the work for their voting constituents and vastly more from special interests in long term election support and or in promises of delayed or indirect reward, the voter isn't winning.

The question is if increasing the compensation matters. If it would draw in a bigger pool of better candidates, or if it would just be more income for the egomaniacs that want the position mostly for status and self gratification regardless of financial reward.

I'm not sure paying more would attract better enough better people to matter because you already need a huge ego and big money backing to even run.

But, his argument isn't entirely without merit. Bits just a little simplistic and unrealistic in the current political environment.

Ok, let's make a deal. We increase the salary to $250K, but implement term limits and forbid all stock trading while an active member and one year after leaving office.
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How about this deal Dan.

We will pay we pay every representative $1M for the 2 years served.
That money will pay for everything in your family's life for 2 years.
If you or your family are caught by a private panel to have enriched yourself outside of that $1M you go to jail.
If you are caught insider trading you go to jail.
You get 1 term and then you are done, at that point your job as a House member has ended. Go home.
You cannot lobby for 10 years after your time served.

Similar deal for the senate...
You could run for the Senate, you get $3M for the 6 years served.
That money will pay for everything in your family's life for 2 years.
If you or your family are caught by a private panel to have enriched yourself outside of that $3M you go to jail.
If you are caught insider trading you go to jail.
You get 1 term and then you are done, at that point your job as a Senate member has ended. Go home.
You cannot lobby for 10 years after your time served.

If you want to work in the permanent deeps state you get 10 years before you can never work in Washington DC again.

Also Washington DC is reduced to the Capitol building, White house and major monuments and the mall that connects them. No living quarters will be part of Washington DC. DC becomes what it was intended a place of work for the nation & a place for memorials as a national park. All other areas called Washington DC are returned to VA & Maryland and will be renamed whatever that $#!+hole wants to be called.
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Crenshaw sucks. Had high hopes for that man.
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Quote:

how else do people expect legislators to "better themselves"?
Serve 4-6 years, then go home and get a job in the private sector
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Bad joke incoming:

How can you be two-faced and one-eyed?
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Sumlin has lost control of Crenshaw.
Seven and three are ten, not only now, but forever. There has never been a time when seven and three were not ten, nor will there ever be a time when they are not ten. Therefore, I have said that the truth of number is incorruptible and common to all who think. — St. Augustine
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Bidens leg hairs said:

Dan McCainshaw defended stock trades by members of Congress, stating that they are not paid enough and how else do people expect legislators to "better themselves"?





There is not one of them there that could have their pay cut in half and still be being overpaid. Not. A. Single. One.
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Krystal and Saagar nailed it. He's not complaining that his salary isn't enough to live in DC, it's that it's not enough to fit in with the DC social elites.

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Surprised how nobody has showed up defending Crenshaw on this like all the other threads.

At some point you just have to connect the dots on how fast he went from military hero to swamp creature McCain 2.0 in 2.6 seconds.

If you actually read many of his comments before Trump was elected the signs were there all along.

Very disappointing to watch for sure.
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I think that AOC $174,000 is making way more than she is worth.

And is it me or is Dan Crenshaw just getting dumber by the day.
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Who here would agree to cut their current salary in half (or ****, even give it up altogether) in exchange for legal and unlimited insider trading?????

I sure as **** would.
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Hungry Ojos said:

Who here would agree to cut their current salary in half (or ****, even give it up altogether) in exchange for legal and unlimited insider trading?????

I sure as **** would.


1/2?

Most would do it for free !!!!
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I'm pretty sure I could live very well off of investments alone if I had access to the information they have.
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suburban cowboy said:

SW-14 said:

suburban cowboy said:

Can't wait to hear Michael Berry doo doo all over DC Dan Cringeshaw some more over this one
I don't get to listen to him much anymore, but I remember he was a huge backer when Crenshaw was running the first time. Has he really changed his tune?


yes, he is actively working to expose crenshaw as a fraud conservative, swamp creature now
Very much so. I'm not a pitchman for Michael Berry, but if you want to hear his shows on your time, check out his podcast on Spotify "or wherever you get your podcasts."

Jan 18 episode re Dan Crenshaw
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He must have seen Henry Cuellar's house on the news last week.
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SW-14 said:

suburban cowboy said:

Can't wait to hear Michael Berry doo doo all over DC Dan Cringeshaw some more over this one
I don't get to listen to him much anymore, but I remember he was a huge backer when Crenshaw was running the first time. Has he really changed his tune?
From 1/18/22
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-michael-berry-show-27764850/episode/you-asked-about-it-michael-berry-91741808

Part 2, 6:40min mark
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-michael-berry-show-27764850/episode/how-the-neo-cons-and-establishment-republicans-91753569

From 1/19/22
12min mark
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-michael-berry-show-27764850/episode/one-year-with-biden-pm-91810432
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Man I used to like Crenshaw but he has made some really bad choices and statements lately.

FYI the avg. family of 4 in this country the average income is LESS than half of what he makes and only about 30% of the population makes $100K+. Furthermore, very few in the private sector have benefits even remotely approaching what he has, and almost nobody has pensions anymore.

What Reps and Senators get paid is fine, for their salary and benefits while in office. But there should be NO pension plan at all, much less after such minimal service.

Increasing the salary will not attract better candidates, it will just increase the pool of semi-useful idiots that try to get the job. AOC is not qualified and she has the job and will get reelected for the next 30+ years.

Very few bright, intelligent and ambitious want to work in the government, whatever their ideals are for making things better for the future, helping the country, etc., etc. Senators are typically a higher bar than Reps but even then there are some woefully ignorant and underqualified Senators. In the House, I would say a large majority of Reps. could not hold down an equally paying private sector job for more than 6 months.

In my mind anyone who wants to be a career federal politician is a loser.
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Hungry Ojos said:

Who here would agree to cut their current salary in half (or ****, even give it up altogether) in exchange for legal and unlimited insider trading?????

I sure as **** would.
Nope, F that. They are in a position to make decisions that will affect stocks. I rather that not be how they make legislative decisions.

I rather give them the $250k and a housing allowance in exchange for term limits and a ban on trading.
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Contrarian opinion: IF we could offer politicians an option to freeze all alternative revenue sources FOR LIFE and pay them $1M per year while in office and $250k in perpetuity once out of office... it would ultimately be cheaper and better for the American taxpayer.
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annie88 said:

I think that AOC $174,000 is making way more than she is worth.

And is it me or is Dan Crenshaw just getting dumber by the day.
Patches (R) is losing support almost as fast as Biden.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

Contrarian opinion: IF we could offer politicians an option to freeze all alternative revenue sources FOR LIFE and pay them $1M per year while in office and $250k in perpetuity once out of office... it would ultimately be cheaper and better for the American taxpayer.

They should not get one red f'ing penny once out of office.
 
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