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No Spin Ag said:

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Burpelson said:

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MTG sees the polling numbers nationally and her internal polling numbers tell her that life after Trump starts ASAP, you will see more and more maga pivoting away from trump.

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You think that is what is driving this? Very intriguing. That's a different take.

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It's definitely one worth thinking about.

Everyone knows Trump's hold on the party either ends or begins to wane substantially once he's out of office. And if maga goes back away from politics (he is the one who brought many of them out to vote for the first time ever, it's been reported repeatedly on), then catering to them in Trump-fashion will no longer be needed. Things will go back to "normal" (i.e., the way things were for republicans pre-Trump).

Is this guaranteed? No, maga could find a new person to latch on to, but it'll be very hard to replace Trump because even the most maga-faithful politician out there, not named Trump, really doesn't act or talk like Trump. at best, they're like an MTG, but even then, they're still very much staying true to politi-speak.

What will be very interesting to see is if more than the original 4 vote for the release of the files. It won't shake the world up if it happens, but it will show that things just might be changing sooner than expected.

Either way, politics will be the most interesting to watch one year after Trump is out of office. Then we'll see if maga were truly there for the party and the betterment of the nation, or if they were just there for Trump and whatever he wanted so long as he tried to break things.

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First on the bold, I don't think that will be tolerated. Not least because the answer to the second italics bold is that much of the Trump support was about being Anti-Left, Anti Progressive globalist flushing of Western Civ with both Marxist teachings and careless immigration. About supporting someone finally willing to push back, especially against the monolithic biased MSM. Same reason many supporting Ted Cruz initially and other "outsider" candidates of 2015 line-up.

The Republicans pre-2015 were spectacularly impotent. They hated Ted Cruz for starting a push-back that mattered and it showed. That they wanted to run Jeb to be flatttened by Hillary was transparently obvious. Then we had the Bidenite reign (the shadow coup starting 2017) and outright rule of 2021-24 showing the Left was what even the fringe alt right said, and more, let alone the worst of conservative fears. That was re-emphasized this year and especially second week of September with their violent rejection of a clear-cut election outcome and celebration of Islamist level attitudes. (In the case of Oct 7, literally).

GIVEN that, you won't see any acceptance to return to pre-2015 Republican impotence. It might not be MAGA, but could see an unabashed Nationalist party forming. Or, as we are seeing, the two halves of GenZ will clash in 1930's Weimar fashion for control.

What I do not see is return to the go-along GOP being tolerated. Unless there is massive reform on the Democrat/MSM side first by 2028.

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I think the, "It might not be maga," was the main point I was trying to make. I think there will be many imitators who try to talk, act, and mean-tweet like Trump to get his maga base's votes, but the shock factor is gone. Trump is tame in comparison to how he was in his first term. Could be because he knows he's done after this term or because whatever he says and does a la "squirt lemon juice..." doesn't have the same shock value as it did a decade ago.

But, I do see your point. The GOP won't be the Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney party, but it also won't be "REEEEE!!!" maga either. I think in the end it'll fall somewhere in between, which is a good thing because it'll still be able to attract enough moderates who may be socially liberal (Women's/Gay Rights, pro legal immigrants, etc.) but are very much anti-woke (trans men in sports, etc.).

Either way, I think there's still good times ahead for the GOP, even if they're not as entertaining in the process.

MTG finally seeing the light.

MTG is usually a raving lunatic, or at least plays one convincingly for her constituents. These kinds of folks though also tend to be more independently-minded and difficult to control. It will be interesting to see if she can stand her ground against the cult of Trump.

Liz Cheney voted party line like 99% of the time and yet the cult branded her a RINO for having the nerve to criticize the president's attempted insurrection. MTG isn't burdened by the Cheney name though.

I expect the president to win this one, still. MTG won't be able to overcome all the internalized misogyny.

MTG now compares herself to Epstein’s victims because Trump was critical of her.

The way the woke right viciously attacks everyone in sight but then plays victim the second anyone pushes back is pathetic. pic.twitter.com/NSmtBJAwsk

— AG (@AGHamilton29) November 15, 2025

Funny how all of a sudden MTG is the darling of all the resident libs here.

Actually, no it isn't. They'll love any Republican who attacks Trump, but turn right back to hating them as soon as the Trump feud dissipates or simply runs out of the news cycle.

What makes one a 'darling'? We wouldn't be hearing anything from MTG if Trump had supported her running for higher office, or Mike Johnson had let her be part of the big boys' club in Congress. As an aside, seeing the nonsensical attacks on her ideological purity by the cult just goes to show how unfailing their loyalty is to the dear leader. This level of introspection isn't currently possible by the cult.

Marjorie Taylor Greene said that we were entering "World War III" and a "Nuclear War" after the US bombed Iran's nuclear facilities in Operation Midnight Hammer.

She predicted "Flag-draped coffins."

She never admitted she was wrong. No one did.
pic.twitter.com/K8N3mRBYhW

— Shawn Farash (@Shawn_Farash) November 15, 2025

Do people really think Trump is having people threaten her as she claims?

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Do people really think Trump is having people threaten her as she claims?

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I'm sure our res libs believe it, but no one else.

Crying "I'm being threatened" is the age old fall back people, usually leftists, use when they're losing.

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Funny how all of a sudden MTG is the darling of all the resident libs here.

Actually, no it isn't. They'll love any Republican who attacks Trump, but turn right back to hating them as soon as the Trump feud dissipates or simply runs out of the news cycle.

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I'm not a lib. I think she is pretty sensible on this topic. Release the files.

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I never liked MTG but if she's going to hold Trump's feet to the fire on Epstein and H1B I'm changing my tune

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She is only doing it because she's a woman scorned.

Everything she does now is payback for not getting a Senate endorsement.

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Probably more likely she is more concerned with what is good for American citizens as opposed to the donor class. Trump's interview with Laura Ingraham and his recent attacks on Massie have soured me quite a bit. He actually said he decldes what MAGA is. Whatever.

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

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I never liked MTG but if she's going to hold Trump's feet to the fire on Epstein and H1B I'm changing my tune

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She is only doing it because she's a woman scorned.

Everything she does now is payback for not getting a Senate endorsement.

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Probably more likely she is more concerned with what is good for American citizens as opposed to the donor class. Trump's interview with Laura Ingraham and his recent attacks on Massie have soured me quite a bit. He actually said he declines what MAGA is. Whatever.

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Is that a thread here? What does declines mean.

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Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

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Ozzy Osbourne said:

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I never liked MTG but if she's going to hold Trump's feet to the fire on Epstein and H1B I'm changing my tune

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She is only doing it because she's a woman scorned.

Everything she does now is payback for not getting a Senate endorsement.

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Probably more likely she is more concerned with what is good for American citizens as opposed to the donor class. Trump's interview with Laura Ingraham and his recent attacks on Massie have soured me quite a bit. He actually said he declines what MAGA is. Whatever.

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Is that a thread here? What does declines mean.

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Autocomplete error. I fixed it.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene said that we were entering "World War III" and a "Nuclear War" after the US bombed Iran's nuclear facilities in Operation Midnight Hammer.

She predicted "Flag-draped coffins."

She never admitted she was wrong. No one did.
pic.twitter.com/K8N3mRBYhW

— Shawn Farash (@Shawn_Farash) November 15, 2025

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"No one does."

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MTG is usually a raving lunatic, or at least plays one convincingly for her constituents. These kinds of folks though also tend to be more independently-minded and difficult to control. It will be interesting to see if she can stand her ground against the cult of Trump.

Liz Cheney voted party line like 99% of the time and yet the cult branded her a RINO for having the nerve to criticize the president's attempted insurrection. MTG isn't burdened by the Cheney name though.

I expect the president to win this one, still. MTG won't be able to overcome all the internalized misogyny.

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This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

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She done

After months of MTG trying to undermine the Trump admin and Republicans because Trump wouldn’t back her Senate run, he’s finally publicly calling her out. pic.twitter.com/7YOGkmJauw

— AG (@AGHamilton29) November 15, 2025

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I called this MONTHS AGO!

that Greene and Massie are the two worst "Republicans" in the Caucus and are the worst types of grifters

coincidentally, they are also the two biggest supporters of Hamas in the Republican party.

just a coincidence!!

Never cared for her, still don't.

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Im Gipper said:

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Marjorie Taylor Greene said that we were entering "World War III" and a "Nuclear War" after the US bombed Iran's nuclear facilities in Operation Midnight Hammer.

She predicted "Flag-draped coffins."

She never admitted she was wrong. No one did.
pic.twitter.com/K8N3mRBYhW

— Shawn Farash (@Shawn_Farash) November 15, 2025

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"No one does."

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June 12, 2025

MTG: "we are entering a nuclear war, World War III"

seriously, you have to be a moron to support this idiot!

dummy Marjorie who viciously attacked the Jews time after time,

then viciously attacked President Trump time after time..


now whining like a leftist about her "safety" because POTUS Trump answered her back.

what a hypocritical @#$#@$

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Funny how all of a sudden MTG is the darling of all the resident libs here.

Actually, no it isn't. They'll love any Republican who attacks Trump, but turn right back to hating them as soon as the Trump feud dissipates or simply runs out of the news cycle.

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LMAO

Hold my Beer!!

TRUMP IS MAGA

MTG IS NAZI GROYPERS

I stand with Trump!

MTG and Trump are both flawed in their own ways. I don't see any point in picking a side here.

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MTG and Trump are both flawed in their own ways. I don't see any point in picking a side here.

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You don't see a point in picking a side when one party wants the release of the Epstein files and the other doesn't?

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MTG and Trump are both flawed in their own ways. I don't see any point in picking a side here.

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You don't see a point in picking a side when one party wants the release of the Epstein files and the other doesn't?

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Nope. Not even on my radar.

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MTG and Trump are both flawed in their own ways. I don't see any point in picking a side here.

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You don't see a point in picking a side when one party wants the release of the Epstein files and the other doesn't?

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Nope. Not even on my radar.

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Then why are you even on this thread? It's a thread about Epstein.

You must have a different thread title than I do. Seems to be about MTG.

And the only reason I chimed in because everyone else seems firmly in one corner or another. I represent the agnostic vote on the issue. The finger pointing is much ado about nothing (IMO).

on one side is POTUS TRUMP who has done more for MAGA than any single human being in history the last 10 years

on the other side a grifting stupid dummy who literally supports Hamas and attacks Trump at every turn the last several months.

pretty easy decision to make!

I am a Trump supporter but the American people decide what will make America great again.

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MTG and Trump are both flawed in their own ways. I don't see any point in picking a side here.

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You don't see a point in picking a side when one party wants the release of the Epstein files and the other doesn't?

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Nope. Not even on my radar.

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So you don't have sex trafficking and sexual assault and abuse of minor girls and the ability to hold the vile humans who were a part of it to account on your radar?

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You must have a different thread title than I do. Seems to be about MTG.

And the only reason I chimed in because everyone else seems firmly in one corner or another. I represent the agnostic vote on the issue. The finger pointing is much ado about nothing (IMO).

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Yes sir. Apologies. The MTG thread and Epstein thread are having the same discussion about MTG v Trump. Late night posting. I wasn't drinking but I was tired lol!

MTG supports Hamas??? Is that a slander or true? That's enough to dismiss. No other qualification is needed.

mtg was, remains, and always will be a lunatic crackpot grifter, the only thing that's changed is her loyalty to trump. unfortunately for her, loyalty to dear leader is the only consistent ideological pillar of maga, everything else is as fungible and fleeting as trump's whims.

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MTG and Trump are both flawed in their own ways. I don't see any point in picking a side here.

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You don't see a point in picking a side when one party wants the release of the Epstein files and the other doesn't?

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Nope. Not even on my radar.

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So you don't have sex trafficking and sexual assault and abuse of minor girls and the ability to hold the vile humans who were a part of it to account on your radar?

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If i thought there would ever be such an accountability maybe it would be. Both parties have been in power and could have made political hay if it was in their interest to do so, and assuming the evidence isn't totally sanitized or incomplete. Yet neither has done so.