TROOPER PROCTOR FIRED

BREAKING: Trooper Michael Proctor has been relieved of his duties with Massachusetts State Police. #WBZ pic.twitter.com/dAFp3nZ38s

— Kristina Rex (@KristinaRex) July 2, 2024

…maybe not fired

Follow up: Proctor will be officially transferred on Sunday, July 7, per the union bargaining agreement. He will then be subject to a duty status hearing to determine what is next: retained on full pay, restricted duty, suspended with pay or without pay. #WBZ

— Kristina Rex (@KristinaRex) July 2, 2024

Just came to post.

He was rehomed.

Waited until after the trial. Absolute pieces of s*** in leadership there.

Why did they wait?

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He was rehomed.

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Good one!

whatthehey78 said:

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When questioned...I usually managed to evade selection by stating something to the effect..."I have not been impressed with the Judicial System ever since it moved away from its 'Judeo-Christian' roots'".

UH OH, religious wacko...NEXT!

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it is anti american tio seek to get off of juries

you are a parasite in society buy not being a good citizen

Didn't defense counsel ask something like are you still in that position, have you been reprimanded? I'd bet he wouldn't have been rehomed if verdict was guilty.

Full disclosure, I did not watch the entire trial but from what I did see, not sure the prosecution has much of a case without him. Maybethey can find an accident reconstruction expert to offset that but such an expert would still be working off his efforts and subject to scrutiny.

aggiehawg said:

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Full disclosure, I did not watch the entire trial but from what I did see, not sure the prosecution has much of a case without him. Maybethey can find an accident reconstruction expert to offset that but such an expert would still be working off his efforts and subject to scrutiny.

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Prosecution was trying to get away without calling him. In one hearing about proctor, defense told the judge not to worry, they would call him if commonwealth didn't

According to the alternate juror even if Proctor wasn't a complete scumbag (my words, not hers) she still would've voted to acquit. The investigation was so bad that the tomfoolery was just icing on the cake.

AtticusMatlock said:

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According to the alternate juror even if Proctor wasn't a complete scumbag (my words, not hers) she still would've voted to acquit. The investigation was so bad that the tomfoolery was just icing on the cake.

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Thanks. Didn't know that any of the jurors have spoken. But that was an alternate. Any word from actual jurors?

Not as far as I know, but I kind of got disgusted yesterday and stopped following the case.

Lawyer You Know was good today. Worth the watch and he's easy on the eyes!!

https://www.youtube.com/live/76ZIrHURmBI?si=GiLlfJ5AgAQQD06z

Jackson filed motion to dismiss.

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Jackson filed motion to dismiss.

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I had wondered about which counts the jury was hung on. Procedurally, was the court supposed to have determined if Read was found not guilty on some of the charges?

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I had wondered about which counts the jury was hung on. Procedurally, was the court supposed to have determined if Read was found not guilty on some of the charges?

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Reason why lesser included offenses can muck up the process instead of giving a divided jury a compromise off ramp.

I do not know if the judge actually polled the jury after announcing the mistrial? Did she?

I don't have a source for this, but was told to me in a conversation the other day as we were discussing the trial, they said that the jury was 9-3 in favor of manslaughter. Again, this was a conversation and nothing I had read.

Ted Lasso said:

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…maybe not fired

Follow up: Proctor will be officially transferred on Sunday, July 7, per the union bargaining agreement. He will then be subject to a duty status hearing to determine what is next: retained on full pay, restricted duty, suspended with pay or without pay. #WBZ

— Kristina Rex (@KristinaRex) July 2, 2024

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They can't fire him immediately because of the union. This is likely the first step, but wouldn't be shocked if he wasn't fired in the end

aggiehawg said:

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I had wondered about which counts the jury was hung on. Procedurally, was the court supposed to have determined if Read was found not guilty on some of the charges?

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Reason why lesser included offenses can muck up the process instead of giving a divided jury a compromise off ramp.

I do not know if the judge actually polled the jury after announcing the mistrial? Did she?

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I don't know what the court did in this case. I had assumed that the court was supposed to determine if the jury had reached an unanimous verdict on any of the charges.

I was confused on the instructions and the charges. Judge was terrible.

On another note, there was a show on Court TV regarding the Darrell Brooks case with classy Judge Dorrow. Can you imagine if Judge Canone had to handle him? Huge LOL!!

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I don't know what the court did in this case. I had assumed that the court was supposed to determine if the jury had reached an unanimous verdict on any of the charges.

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My assumption too since there is a double jeopardy issue if they agreed on acquittal on at least one charge. Defense counselwould have insisted for it as well.

aggiehawg said:

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I don't know what the court did in this case. I had assumed that the court was supposed to determine if the jury had reached an unanimous verdict on any of the charges.

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My assumption too since there is a double jeopardy issue if they agreed on acquittal on at least one charge. Defense counselwould have insisted for it as well.

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Based on the letter presented, it sounds like the defense wasn't consulted on the issuance of mistrial, and their request for jury polling was denied by the judge?

Edit: I was able to go back and find video of when the judge declared the mistrial. As it's been posted earlier, she had the jury return to the court room. She then read the jury instruction stating they are deadlocked, and then she immediately declared a mistrial. I've not been able to find any clips showing if the defense requested to know about the jury possibly being unanimous on not guilty on any counts.

I read the letter and that is what is says but I thought the judge also said she would meet with the jury?

If she did not inquire as to which counts they did agree on and which were deadlocked, that would present the double jeopardy issues upon retiral, if any.

The chances of a retrial are getting increasingly slim, IMO.

aggiehawg said:

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I read the letter and that is what is says but I thought the judge also said she would meet with the jury?

If she did not inquire as to which counts they did agree on and which were deadlocked, that would present the double jeopardy issues upon retiral, if any.

The chances of a retrial are getting increasingly slim, IMO.

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You are correct. I did leave off that she stated she would meet with the jury.

There is another document with comments from the informants/jurors. Melanie Little is going over it but I can't find the document.

Read's attorneys should be filing ethics complaints against the judge with whatever state board governs judicial conduct. That's ridiculous behavior by the judge not to poll the jury and allow defense to be present.

Read also may have a 1983 action against the prosecutors for violation of her civil rights.

Proctor suspended without pay while investigation continues

Surprised about that. Thank goodness!

The formal motion to dismiss is in. Lawyer You Know reviewing it.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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On Lawyer You Know, a chat said they are not guilty in the first charge, but split on the others. Said it was on the note on Friday but not made public.

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Considering the letter and the motion to dismiss, this seems much more plausible. It matches what the jurors are saying now. If the judge knew they had reached a verdict on one charge and did not inquire further it is a huge problem.

What's very troubling to me is that this idiotic investigation and a terrible prosecutor still convinced around half the jury that she was guilty of manslaughter.

What boggles my mind is that they thought she actually hit him....they believed Troopah Paul version???? But not the prosecution ME who says undetermined COD or the defense who said it wasn't by a vehicle???