I'll throw out a lowbrow take that hopefully the smart folks here can correct, but if you're thinking the dollar will eventually collapse, put your cash into real goods, physical things now while you can - basically getting something in hand for your cash while it's worth something until there is a financial collapse. Precious metals should maintain value regardless of the currency (i don't think of it as an investment, more like insurance), and BTC in theory. I like the idea of 'getting something' for my cash now that I know I'll need/want/use in the future. For me, it's tools, equipment, an outbuilding/shop, and essentials. I just bought some amateur radio stuff from a fellow TexAger last month. Anyway, i think your money in the bank will likely vanish if there's a collapse, so might be better to do something with it now.
Ok, somebody help me out here. On a whim, about three years ago, I bought 200 2021 American Silver Eagle coins from Monument metals for a total of $7,848.
Silver has supposedly exploded and spot price for an ounce of silver currently is $31.73. $31.73 x 200 = $6,346.
So does that mean, after a three year investment, and silver reaching all time highs, I'm still in the red $1,500????
Ok, somebody help me out here. On a whim, about three years ago, I bought 200 2021 American Silver Eagle coins from Monument metals for a total of $7,848.
Silver has supposedly exploded and spot price for an ounce of silver currently is $31.73. $31.73 x 200 = $6,346.
So does that mean, after a three year investment, and silver reaching all time highs, I'm still in the red $1,500????
Some investment.
You paid $39.24 an ounce for silver eagles and you're complaining? Why would you spend that much? Don't blame silver for your bad purchase. I was buying silver eagles as late as the end of 2023 for around $25 an ounce.
2021 silver eagles are now going for $41.57 and ounce on monument metals. That would mean your "investment" rose to $8314.00 or a $1968 profit.
Silver Eagles, Maples and other sovereigns have a huge premium markup. If you're stacking stack generic rounds. I own a ton of sovereigns but just because I like them. But they are not a good investment unless you can find someone to pay the premium.
Grifters gonna grift, just crypto bros moving on to the next fad, trying to score a quick buck.
Gold has been around since the beginning of time, lib. Most people use it to hedge inflation. Comparing it to crypto is absurd.
At 4% inflation, which is about what we have with your fellow liberals in charge, the dollar will lose half its value in 17 years. Might want to consider some gold. Or hold on to your dollars while they fade away.
There's a metric called the Dow to Gold ratio and as it name implies, it measures the relative value between the two. To date, the DJIA has always outpaced gold on a one-to-one value, and that's not accounting for the dividends paid out by DJIA shares.
It's also quite naive of you to assume that true market movers are buying gold right now as it spikes. Crypto bros have latched on to it as it is experiencing low double digit growth (as it does every election year) so the hype around it is above historical norms.
Just buying into fear literally lowers your long-term wealth potential.
Stock can be exchanged for cash. And at this point in history, cash is nothing more than what the government can say it's worth and how much time/labor serfs are willing to trade for it. At some point though it will become untenable and those stocks will be worth worthless paper.
I've heard people say that gold/silver won't be in demand in a post economic collapse. People will need to store their wealth in something that is recognized as limited in supply and not easily replicable (see the efforts of societies to counterfeit-proof their currencies). Just like 500 hundred years ago (and 2,000 years ago) gold and silver have held their worth. People will need it and continue to use it.
I won't taunt the gold bros here…I'll let The Oracle do it
Quote:
"(W)ith an asset like gold, for example, you know, basically gold is a way of going long on fear, and it's been a pretty good way of going long on fear from time to time. But you really have to hope people become more afraid in the year or two years than they are now. And if they become more afraid you make money, if they become less afraid you lose money. But the gold itself doesn't produce anything"
-Warren Buffet
Gold … has two significant shortcomings, being neither of much use nor procreative. True, gold has some industrial and decorative utility, but the demand for these purposes is both limited and incapable of soaking up new production. Meanwhile, if you own one ounce of gold for an eternity, you will still own one ounce at its end
-Warren Buffet
I have no views as to where (gold) will be (in the next five years), but the one thing I can tell you is it won't do anything between now and then except look at you
Crypto and metals seem like smart plays to me. I've read quite a few hot takes by folks a lot smarter than I am, with a background in this stuff and that's my take away, anyway.
Ok, somebody help me out here. On a whim, about three years ago, I bought 200 2021 American Silver Eagle coins from Monument metals for a total of $7,848.
Silver has supposedly exploded and spot price for an ounce of silver currently is $31.73. $31.73 x 200 = $6,346.
So does that mean, after a three year investment, and silver reaching all time highs, I'm still in the red $1,500????
Some investment.
You must be new to the silver market.......
Eagles have a premium on them.
What was spot when you purchased? Looking at old charts, spot was roughly between $26 and $31 in 2021. I'm guessing you paid $10-$13 per oz for the premium.
Premiums on eagles can be ridiculous. Especially when the US Mint is deliberately withholding production.
Here is an interview with Jack Sermon - Head of Eagle production at US Mint. In the interview, he admits that he was told by the Head of the Mint (Ventris Gibson) to limit production. Mind you, there is a law on the books, that the US Mint needs to produce adequate supply of Eagles to meet demand.
Who is Ventris? [url=https://www.usmint.gov/about/leadership/director#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20President%20of,largest%20Mint%20in%20the%20world.][/url]
In 2022, the President of the United States nominated, and the Senate unanimously confirmed, the Honorable Ventris C. Gibson as the 40th Director of the United States Mint. She is the first African American to lead the U.S. Mint, which is the largest Mint in the world. She served as its Deputy Director prior to her presidential appointment.
Director Gibson is a U.S. Navy veteran, joining the Mint from District of Columbia Government. Prior to her service with the District, she served as the Associate Deputy Assistant Secretary with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and also as the Director of Administration for the National Labor Relations Board. Ms. Gibson's career includes leadership roles in the Federal Aviation Administration, where she was Assistant Administrator for Human Resources; Deputy Assistant Secretary for Human Resource Management at the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and its first Deputy Assistant Secretary for Resolution Management. She was VA's highest-ranking woman veteran responsible for human resources management and civil rights programs affecting 230,000 employees.
Notice anything about her resume? Why would you appoint an HR director to run a production facility?
Nothing to see here..... Are you starting to get the big picture yet?
Hint: Physical assets are signaling weakness in the currency/debt markets. Physical reality vs digital narrative
Those charts are compelling without a doubt and it's hard given the context to discount that things might be "different this time."
If someone weren't already invested, I don't think I would get in here. Too far, too fast and you'd have to think they're coming back down to test some previous support.
Many have been higher before than they are now and then spent a decade or two floundering around underneath those highs.
Ok, somebody help me out here. On a whim, about three years ago, I bought 200 2021 American Silver Eagle coins from Monument metals for a total of $7,848.
Silver has supposedly exploded and spot price for an ounce of silver currently is $31.73. $31.73 x 200 = $6,346.
So does that mean, after a three year investment, and silver reaching all time highs, I'm still in the red $1,500????
Some investment.
You really shouldn't be investing in things you don't understand. The question That you ask, indicates that you neither understand the value of what you paid, nor the value of what you own now.
Warren Buffett offered some sage advice. He said that he never invest in anything that he doesn't understand.
COMEX SILVER VAULT TOTALS DROP 717.6K OUNCES - Registered drops 2.3M oz. - Open Interest is now equal to 316% of all vaulted silver and 1,506% of Registered silver. pic.twitter.com/YbOeyiN8rW
— Michael 🏳️🌈 #silversqueeze (@mikesay98) May 21, 2024
/3 - Silver Demand > Supply
Used in many industries, demand for silver has outstripped supply. To add insult to injury, silver production has dropped in recent years because the price was so low. For three consecutive years now, there has been a world-wide silver deficit. For… pic.twitter.com/AapkOKA2jx
China added more #solar panels in 2023 than the US did in its entire history. Got #silver? Because the exponential growth rate in this sector will definitely bleed the silver market dry in the not too distant future. pic.twitter.com/XT7dP4Go1G
The bid for physical #Silver is above $36 at the ShanghaiX and below $32 at the futures based COMEX.
Don't dismiss the importance of true price discovery is that the more they push the price down at the COMEX and LBMA the greater the arbitrage to ship physical East for a… pic.twitter.com/el3OXZGsAr
Relentless meltup sends gold to new record high of $2,720... and finally silver joins the chase, rising to 11 year high of $33.7/oz pic.twitter.com/ULRXOLTotT
Now that the upside momentum has been reversed, TONIGHT is the right to watch for a margin hike from the CME. A margin hike with prices falling only helps the trapped shorts so, if we see one, you'll have an indication that a Bank Rescue Operation in underway. pic.twitter.com/mKVSGYOKr1
the US weaponizing the dollar by outright stealing russia's foreign reserves and handing them over to ukraine was a strategic blunder that will have massive consequences over the next decade or two. they effectively showed the world that if you disagree with them, they're going to freeze your assets. if you were another government, would you continue storing your country's wealth in our bonds knowing that you are required to be subservient to our wishes? or would you start buying hard assets that are out of our control.
being the reserve currency is a tremendous privilege and unfortunately the US has abused it in many ways.
Preserving the dollar as the world's currency will be a major challenge for Trump. If Harris wins, it won't happen.
#Gold is going to break $2420 #Silver is going to break $30
In the 1970s during the Iranian hostage crisis, Iran blocked all oil exports. Oil price doubled and Gold went from $200s to $800. The U.S. debt wasn’t anywhere as huge as right now. And U.S. allies were flushed with… pic.twitter.com/9SPYkyvMVL
When gold becomes a fully a Tier 1 asset globally under Basel III in July, it joins the ranks of sovereign bonds and fiat reserves.⁰⁰In short: gold is now officially part of the monetary system again. /2 pic.twitter.com/DelFS5e2qs
$3500.00 goes down. Wow. That was fast.......Are you starting to notice the pace is picking up?
Once again.
This isn't the gold becoming more valuable,THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR RAPIDLY DECREASING.
Holy Smokes! It only took about 21 hours for Jun25 gold to go from $3400 to $3500!! Someone had better go wake up @InvResDynamics!!! The old man is missing all the fun!!!! pic.twitter.com/1D0uKjcSxK