Old McDonald said:

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annie88 said:

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Biden's statement that "unemployment in America has been below 4% for the longest stretch in over 50 years" a claim he made numerous times ignores the even longer stretch during the Trump administration when the rate was at or below that threshold.

During the Trump administration, there were 24 straight months when the unemployment rate was at or below 4%, starting in March 2018 and ending in February 2020, before the devastating economic effects of the pandemic kicked in.

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why does this statement upset you so much when it is literally true? it was at 4% or below from December 2021 through May 2024. that's 30 months. this may come as a surprise to you but 30 is a bigger number than 24.

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Before you glamorize those numbers, do workplace participation numbers. There are multiple factors to look at, when you focus on one, the truth will always come out, and we pay the price.

Annie, ask the farmer about the LPR. And tell him to use the actual LPR, not his moronic, gaslighting cherry picked LPR that he likes to toss out. Lowest LPR since the 70s. People have given up and are not counted in the survey.

And how about full time jobs? Since June 2023, a year ago, ALL net job gains have been part-time employment; while the economy lost 1.1 million full-time jobs, part-time jobs rose 5.6%. LMAO. Gig workers rejoice!!!!

And how about jobs to native born citizens instead of illegals.

Devastating, if accurate.

⚠️ 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬 ⚠️

🇺🇸 🇮🇷| 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗦 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗟𝗜𝗙𝗧 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗳 𝗶𝘁 𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗱𝘀 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹…

This is the most significant sign of submission from any U.S. administration.

𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬… pic.twitter.com/CuQWESaJ8a

— Iran Spectator (@IranSpec) August 5, 2024

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I'll start at the bottom:
WTF do you need a bill to enforce the border????? How did trump do it? Are you seriously trying to gaslight us into thinking Democrats aren't for illegal immigration?

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I covered this in the Mark Kelly thread, but the simple answer is that most of Trump's actions to deal with immigration were illegal. Some of them were blocked by the courts (like forcing asylum seekers to go through ports of entry) and others hadn't been blocked yet when he left office. The new bill would make the law airtight so actions won't get shot down in court. Trump's actions were effective deterrents because they made the process painful and scared people away, but they were illegal and unsustainable. That's how he did it and that's why we need to improve the laws.

Also, you need to step back from the conspiracy theories. The "migrant invasion" is racially tinged fear mongering. Our immigration system is a problem, but there's no plot to overthrow the country. That's weirdo nonsense that anyone with half a brain can see right through. Biden has repatriated more unauthorized migrants than Trump did in his entire term. The difference is that he's doing it within the bounds of the law.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_charts/pb-2024-deportations-fig1-repats.png
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

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Devastating, if accurate.

⚠️ 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬 ⚠️

🇺🇸 🇮🇷| 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗦 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗟𝗜𝗙𝗧 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗳 𝗶𝘁 𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗱𝘀 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹…

This is the most significant sign of submission from any U.S. administration.

𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬… pic.twitter.com/CuQWESaJ8a

— Iran Spectator (@IranSpec) August 5, 2024

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They would have to be stupider than I am giving them credit for to do this.

Biden said he fixed the economy, man!

JOE BIDEN LAST WEEK: “I cured the economy.”

🤡pic.twitter.com/oBAajoVSuO

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) August 5, 2024

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Biden has repatriated more unauthorized migrants than Trump did in his entire term.

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Would this be because there are a sh*t ton more crossing over in the first to re-patriate? So...what are the net numbers?

Also, you mis-spelled illegal alien.

Maybe but the last thing the Dems want 90 days out of th election is a war in the Middle East. So it is feasible the would take or promise to take such action to avoid it. As a purely political move, it would make sense...to them.

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Maybe but the last thing the Dems want 90 days out of th election is a war in the Middle East. So it is feasible the would take or promise to take such action to avoid it. As a purely political move, it would make sense...to them.

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True enough, it makes perfect sense if you append the idea with, "...until after the election."

this guy spouts off the pravda talking points that 95% of MSM programs people with and tells us he has "documented facts" and we're the brainwashed sheep because of all that right wing media.. yeah; there's sooo much right wingy things in the media... pops is clearly just a troll .. i hope. Can't be that ignorant. .. I hope.

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Biden said he fixed the economy, man!

JOE BIDEN LAST WEEK: “I cured the economy.”

🤡pic.twitter.com/oBAajoVSuO

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) August 5, 2024

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That cold of his is still hanging tough, though.

Max Boredom said:

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deddog said:

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I'll start at the bottom:
WTF do you need a bill to enforce the border????? How did trump do it? Are you seriously trying to gaslight us into thinking Democrats aren't for illegal immigration?

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I covered this in the Mark Kelly thread, but the simple answer is that most of Trump's actions to deal with immigration were illegal. Some of them were blocked by the courts (like forcing asylum seekers to go through ports of entry) and others hadn't been blocked yet when he left office. The new bill would make the law airtight so actions won't get shot down in court. Trump's actions were effective deterrents because they made the process painful and scared people away, but they were illegal and unsustainable. That's how he did it and that's why we need to improve the laws.

Also, you need to step back from the conspiracy theories. The "migrant invasion" is racially tinged fear mongering. Our immigration system is a problem, but there's no plot to overthrow the country. That's weirdo nonsense that anyone with half a brain can see right through. Biden has repatriated more unauthorized migrants than Trump did in his entire term. The difference is that he's doing it within the bounds of the law.


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

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In an addition Trump was able to use Covid to declare a health emergency which gave he far greater power to restrict or stop immigration in 2020 that helped curtail a big spike that had started in summer 2019.

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aggiehawg said:

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Maybe but the last thing the Dems want 90 days out of th election is a war in the Middle East. So it is feasible the would take or promise to take such action to avoid it. As a purely political move, it would make sense...to them.

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True enough, it makes perfect sense if you append the idea with, "...until after the election."

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Page right out of Obama's playbook. He told Medevev to tell Putin he'd be "more flexible" after the 2012 election.

Why does the Biden supporters never call him out for his unconstitutional vaccine mandate. It's like they forgot he did that and gets a pass for trying to force medical procedures on everyone.

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Wow, look at all those increased prices. Are you actually dumb enough to think they wouldn't have gone up like that if Trump had been re-elected? Inflation was going to go way up after the Pandemic regardless of who was President. I realize MAGAts have blinders on but take them off and look at what happened in all other developed countries. They had it worse and haven't recovered as fast or as well.

Immigration? The chart is one produced by the border patrol though the red arrows were added and pointed out by Trump, who presented this chart during an event a few months ago in Green Bay. He pointed to the lower red arrow, claiming it showed record low numbers of apprehensions in his last week of office. Except it was April of 2020 and he was in office for another 8 months. As in, that rapidly rising number of apprehensions through the rest of his term. It obviously went bonkers after Biden took office, though it should be noted that during the last two months, according to CBP numbers, apprehensions have dropped back lower than the last two months Trump was in office. Why did numbers of apprehensions increase so much, starting in Trump's final year and going so high afterward? The world went to hell everywhere and people looking to improve their lives recognized America as a far better place to live, work, and raise families than where they were.

I realize most if not all Trump lovers will stay true to form and ignore reality, but at least it's out there.

I love your argument that prices would have gone up anyway. Biden doubled the increase. Can't believe you don't see that.


See I can make **** up too.

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I think we are advancing on building our semiconductor companies building in America?

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Signed while Trump was still in office. Try again

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That's what I figured, but didn't feel like researching. I tried to give the old creepy coote something. Swing and a miss.

Max Boredom said:

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deddog said:

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I'll start at the bottom:
WTF do you need a bill to enforce the border????? How did trump do it? Are you seriously trying to gaslight us into thinking Democrats aren't for illegal immigration?

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I covered this in the Mark Kelly thread, but the simple answer is that most of Trump's actions to deal with immigration were illegal. Some of them were blocked by the courts (like forcing asylum seekers to go through ports of entry) and others hadn't been blocked yet when he left office. The new bill would make the law airtight so actions won't get shot down in court. Trump's actions were effective deterrents because they made the process painful and scared people away, but they were illegal and unsustainable. That's how he did it and that's why we need to improve the laws.

Also, you need to step back from the conspiracy theories. The "migrant invasion" is racially tinged fear mongering. Our immigration system is a problem, but there's no plot to overthrow the country. That's weirdo nonsense that anyone with half a brain can see right through. Biden has repatriated more unauthorized migrants than Trump did in his entire term. The difference is that he's doing it within the bounds of the law.


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

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The bolded part is simply more gaslighting by a liberal sock.

Forcing entry through a legal port of entry is not illegal, it is the absolute correct and legal way to gain entry when claiming asylum. You can't sneak over illegally then shout "asylum". Anyone with a brain cell knows that. If so, then literally everyone on the planet - right now - could swim over via the Rio Grande illegally and claim asylum. All 7+ billion!!!!!! I laugh hard at your ridiculous nonsense!

Claiming other EOs "would have been blocked if given time" is an asinine argument. You have no idea what would have been ruled legal or not.

The most effective thing he did was threaten Mexico with sanctions, which he has the power to do. Your post is complete bull**** for the most part. Let me clue you in: this whole asylum thing didn't just become a thing after 200 years because it is legal. It became a thing because you libs are abusing the law.

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Inflation was going to go way up after the Pandemic regardless of who was President. I realize MAGAts have blinders on but take them off and look at what happened in all other developed countries. They had it worse and haven't recovered as fast or as well.

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pravda actually has the low iq brainwashed masses believing tripe like this? or troll. has to be troll.


day 1 cancel XL pipeline and enact moratorium on shale drilling- attacking the industry of our most valuable resources and one that drives the cost of literally everything during an inflationary period. an infrastructure bill (that is mostly not for infrastructure) for over a trillion dollars when we're already in an inflationary period and already 33 trillion in debt. another multi-trillion dollar green new deal thankfully failed before a nearly trillion dollar "inflation reduction" spending act passed during an inflationary period. These things would not have happened if Biden had lost and these things directly drive inflation higher. ...and of course the whataboutism of xyz countries being worse... hmm.. did their governments also devalue their currencies by spending too much during and after the pandemic and are they impacted doubly from their local policy and by the monetary policies of the world's reserve currency?


I think the most ignorant take you can have is believing that anyone who doesn't support and help run cover for the big government big spending socialist party and the Biden regime is a "MAGAt"

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Devastating, if accurate.

⚠️ 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬 ⚠️

🇺🇸 🇮🇷| 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗦 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗟𝗜𝗙𝗧 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗳 𝗶𝘁 𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗱𝘀 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹…

This is the most significant sign of submission from any U.S. administration.

𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬… pic.twitter.com/CuQWESaJ8a

— Iran Spectator (@IranSpec) August 5, 2024

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At this point, who in their right mind would doubt even the most asinine thing coming out of this administration?

Good thing for all of us that FDR didn't make similar suggestions to Imperial Japan or Nazi Germany.

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Salary increases are outpacing inflation

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Where is that happening?

Not even the $20/hr California minimum wage is keeping up with inflation.

Please let us know who is hiring at these above inflation wages you claim.

Max Boredom said:

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deddog said:

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I'll start at the bottom:
WTF do you need a bill to enforce the border????? How did trump do it? Are you seriously trying to gaslight us into thinking Democrats aren't for illegal immigration?

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I covered this in the Mark Kelly thread, but the simple answer is that most of Trump's actions to deal with immigration were illegal. Some of them were blocked by the courts (like forcing asylum seekers to go through ports of entry) and others hadn't been blocked yet when he left office. The new bill would make the law airtight so actions won't get shot down in court. Trump's actions were effective deterrents because they made the process painful and scared people away, but they were illegal and unsustainable. That's how he did it and that's why we need to improve the laws.

Also, you need to step back from the conspiracy theories. The "migrant invasion" is racially tinged fear mongering. Our immigration system is a problem, but there's no plot to overthrow the country. That's weirdo nonsense that anyone with half a brain can see right through. Biden has repatriated more unauthorized migrants than Trump did in his entire term. The difference is that he's doing it within the bounds of the law.


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

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It's illegal to build a wall and to enforce our immigration laws?
Most companies shoot folks crossing borders illegally, but not democrats.

Trump didn't stop illegal immigration by laws, he stopped it by refusing to encourage, and by threatening and sending people back. All that time Democrats were *****ing and moaning about xenophobia. Your revisionist history notwithstanding, don't think we've forgotten that.

ICE was and still is reviled by democrats, and Kamala and Biden, claimed there was no issue at the border for 2 years. it was only until Abbott started sending illegals to blue states that immigration became a problem

Biden has repatriated more illegals because there are literally millions of more people coming across the border. And Biden has claimed they are here for asylum.

F*** him and all those who've consistently support illegals. i emigrated here legally, and there are millions like me who try to follow the legal process - the legal folks on my team had their visa fees increased during the Biden administration, to pay for the processing cost of illegals.
Folks that allow and encourage illegal immigration, are absolutely despicable scum.

Remember when the Democrats made up **** the the border patrol was whipping illegals
Who built the cages Joe???

HollywoodBQ said:

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AggiePops said:

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Salary increases are outpacing inflation

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Where is that happening?

Not even the $20/hr California minimum wage is keeping up with inflation.

Please let us know who is hiring at these above inflation wages you claim.

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Its a talking point distributed by the Party. You can't be a democrat unless you learn to reject the evidence of your eyes, ears and pockets.

aggiehawg said:

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Devastating, if accurate.

⚠️ 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬 ⚠️

🇺🇸 🇮🇷| 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗦 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗟𝗜𝗙𝗧 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗳 𝗶𝘁 𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗱𝘀 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹…

This is the most significant sign of submission from any U.S. administration.

𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬… pic.twitter.com/CuQWESaJ8a

— Iran Spectator (@IranSpec) August 5, 2024

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These mfers want a global war. If you're a liberal voter, i hope your kids are conscription age.

backintexas2013 said:

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I love your argument that prices would have gone up anyway. Biden doubled the increase. Can't believe you don't see that.


See I can make **** up too.

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You're obviously a 'new' (as opposed to traditional) Republican. Making up s**t is what you do. I don't, as I recognize reality whether I always like it or not. BTW… the traditional Republicans are the ones who can be proud of what they've done for this country. The new age ones… shame.

HollywoodBQ said:

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AggiePops said:

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Salary increases are outpacing inflation

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Where is that happening?

Not even the $20/hr California minimum wage is keeping up with inflation.

Please let us know who is hiring at these above inflation wages you claim.

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It's reported in multiple releases (yes, you too can look this up) but here's one example from the Economic Institute.



Wages over all have gone up, inflation has come down. As a reminder, inflation is about continually higher prices. Inflation could drop to zero without prices coming down a single penny. People need to stop spending to bring about pressure to actually drop prices. Also, average wage increases outstripping inflation means some folks will have done much better while others may still be lagging behind. That nasty math thing.

AggiePops said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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I love your argument that prices would have gone up anyway. Biden doubled the increase. Can't believe you don't see that.


See I can make **** up too.

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You're obviously a 'new' (as opposed to traditional) Republican. Making up s**t is what you do. I don't, as I recognize reality whether I always like it or not. BTW… the traditional Republicans are the ones who can be proud of what they've done for this country. The new age ones… shame.

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Nice. So what about that whole a dude puts on a dress and is now a female thing that Democrats claim to be real ?

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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AggiePops said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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I love your argument that prices would have gone up anyway. Biden doubled the increase. Can't believe you don't see that.


See I can make **** up too.

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You're obviously a 'new' (as opposed to traditional) Republican. Making up s**t is what you do. I don't, as I recognize reality whether I always like it or not. BTW… the traditional Republicans are the ones who can be proud of what they've done for this country. The new age ones… shame.

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Nice. So what about that whole a dude puts on a dress and is now a female thing that Democrats claim to be real ?

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Weird and always has been unless done as a costume, parody, etc. That said, different strokes for different folks and it isn't my (or your) position to tell someone else how to conduct their personal life.

AggiePops said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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AggiePops said:

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Salary increases are outpacing inflation

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Where is that happening?

Not even the $20/hr California minimum wage is keeping up with inflation.

Please let us know who is hiring at these above inflation wages you claim.

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It's reported in multiple releases (yes, you too can look this up) but here's one example from the Economic Institute.



Wages over all have gone up, inflation has come down. As a reminder, inflation is about continually higher prices. Inflation could drop to zero without prices coming down a single penny. People need to stop spending to bring about pressure to actually drop prices. Also, average wage increases outstripping inflation means some folks will have done much better while others may still be lagging behind. That nasty math thing.

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You know how I know you're not hiring anybody and possibly not even paying your own bills?

Inflation goes up so we pay people salary increases higher than inflation to make sure they have more buying power?

Where is that happening?
Name at least one employer, don't just throw a link to some bogus "research".

If it's happening as often as you claim, you should have plenty of first hand examples to share.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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AggiePops said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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I love your argument that prices would have gone up anyway. Biden doubled the increase. Can't believe you don't see that.


See I can make **** up too.

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You're obviously a 'new' (as opposed to traditional) Republican. Making up s**t is what you do. I don't, as I recognize reality whether I always like it or not. BTW… the traditional Republicans are the ones who can be proud of what they've done for this country. The new age ones… shame.

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Nice. So what about that whole a dude puts on a dress and is now a female thing that Democrats claim to be real ?

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Weird and always has been unless done as a costume, parody, etc. That said, different strokes for different folks and it isn't my (or your) position to tell someone else how to conduct their personal life.

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You're right, it isn't my place to tell anyone how to live their lives. Which of course I never claimed it was.

But it is absolutely my right to say that anyone living their life like that and actively trying to force that on my children can take that and shove it up their ass.

Old McDonald said:

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annie88 said:

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Biden's statement that "unemployment in America has been below 4% for the longest stretch in over 50 years" a claim he made numerous times ignores the even longer stretch during the Trump administration when the rate was at or below that threshold.

During the Trump administration, there were 24 straight months when the unemployment rate was at or below 4%, starting in March 2018 and ending in February 2020, before the devastating economic effects of the pandemic kicked in.

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why does this statement upset you so much when it is literally true? it was at 4% or below from December 2021 through May 2024. that's 30 months. this may come as a surprise to you but 30 is a bigger number than 24.

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It's been trending upwards for the past 2 years.

And the only reason the Trump didn't have a longer streak was covid hitting...and a bunch of blue states locking down and causing people to lose jobs...

But, hey, pat yourself on the back that you gave them a job back and then called it a "job created"...

KMB, the maker of Depends, stock is up 15% this year, which he definitely contributed to, so there's that....

Sent Don the Con home! Responsible for the best recovery in the world post Covid. Sent Don the con home!

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Sent Don the Con home! Responsible for the best recovery in the world post Covid. Sent Don the con home!

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Oh look, another genius from the premium board graces us with a troll post.

"Don the con". Did you think that one up all by yourself?