Tim Walz "Weapons of war"

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fredfredunderscorefred said:

Friendly reminder that the USSC in 1939 in US v Miller said the NFA was constitutional specifically because the short barrel shotgun at issue was NOT a weapon of war. Stating specifically that a weapon of war would be guaranteed by the constitution. Not that Dems care about the constitution of course.

"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State, 2 Humphreys (Tenn.) 154, 158."

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/174/

And the USSC in 1939 was 100% wrong. There is no language nor is there any implication in the 2nd Amendment that would require the arms that the government cannot infringe upon must be "weapons of war".

They also essentially wanted a new case put before them, but Miller died before it could happen and there have been no cases put before them on this since then.
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Squadron7 said:

I actually consider the ownership and maintenance of a weapon a civic duty for any person of sound mind.
That would be a "well regulated" firearm too.
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Why would Walz not know which types of weapons are actually used in war if he had been combat? He'd know and wouldn't conflate assault rifles with what he "carried into war" no?
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schmellba99 said:

fredfredunderscorefred said:

Friendly reminder that the USSC in 1939 in US v Miller said the NFA was constitutional specifically because the short barrel shotgun at issue was NOT a weapon of war. Stating specifically that a weapon of war would be guaranteed by the constitution. Not that Dems care about the constitution of course.

"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State, 2 Humphreys (Tenn.) 154, 158."

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/174/

And the USSC in 1939 was 100% wrong. There is no language nor is there any implication in the 2nd Amendment that would require the arms that the government cannot infringe upon must be "weapons of war".

They also essentially wanted a new case put before them, but Miller died before it could happen and there have been no cases put before them on this since then.
oh I agree with the general idea that not being a weapon of war shouldn't open it up to being regulated...

just think the USSC would have an interesting twist going from "we can regulate it because it is NOT a weapon of war and would not be able to regulate it if it was a weapon of war" to "we can regulate it because it IS a weapon of war."
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just think the USSC would have an interesting twist going from "we can regulate it because it is NOT a weapon of war and would not be able to regulate it if it was a weapon of war" to "we can regulate it because it IS a weapon of war."
I have seen some weird things from SCOTUS but that would be a neat trick worthy of a contortionist.
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I bet the wise latina could do it. I mean, not real well, but I'm sure she'd be willing to give it a go.
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And I would bet 99.99% that a FA 155mm SP Bn CSM MTO&E personal weapon in 2004 was an M9 Beretta 9mm pistol.
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Squadron7 said:

Butter1 said:

The weapon of war and scary gun always gets me. I was shooting this gun when I was 11 or 12. Killed my first doe and buck with it. Snakes in the rice canals, no chance. It might not be exactly the same as a AR platform but it can sling the same amount of lead in the same amount of time. Is it also scary looking? or is this one okay?
They just don't want any of you rednecks or nonbinarys to have any guns.



I watch MSNBC religiously and it has taught me two things:

1) If you paint that gun shown above black, it will kill a hundred fold more people and,

2) This is what an AR-15 round does to a building:


Never forget, a AR round even nicking your ear is supposed to make your head do this:

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Slicer97 said:

I bet the wise latina could do it. I mean, not real well, but I'm sure she'd be willing to give it a go.
Eww! Wise Latina can't even see her feet when standing painting a picture of her bin and actual contortionist...ugh...MY EYES!
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Beretta manufactures firearms. Baretta was a fictional cop on a tv series.
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Slicer97 said:

Beretta manufactures firearms. Baretta was a fictional cop on a tv series.
With a BIRD!
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Maybe they actually issued Walz a semi-auto for his own (and their) safety.
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aggiehawg said:

Slicer97 said:

Beretta manufactures firearms. Baretta was a fictional cop on a tv series.
With a BIRD!


My bad. Fixed.
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Novel idea. If a politician can't disassemble, clean, lubricate (without instructions), reassemble, load, fire, and hit their target with a given firearm, they shouldn't be allowed to opine on said firearm. Weapon of war my ass

Side Note:
I proposed, years ago, that the Army Physical Fitness Test consist of putting 15% of your body weight into a ruck, going on a 10K ruck march that ends at a firing range, disassemble and reassemble your weapon, and qualify.



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aggiehawg said:

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just think the USSC would have an interesting twist going from "we can regulate it because it is NOT a weapon of war and would not be able to regulate it if it was a weapon of war" to "we can regulate it because it IS a weapon of war."
I have seen some weird things from SCOTUS but that would be a neat trick worthy of a contortionist.
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