Kvetch said:

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She's openly dabbled in Holocaust denial, stated that the Nazis did not experiment on Jews, refers to Israel as the great Satan, and promulgated a litany of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about pedophilia and espionage.

Candace Owens is a certified nut who has fallen down the age-old rabbit hole of blaming the Jews for all ills in the world.

Regardless of whether Charlie Kirk was questioning the current state of the war in Israel, using that speculation as justification that somehow the Jews were involved in this shooting is blatant anti-Semitism. And those who promulgate it will frame it as "just asking questions."

Hopefully you are smart enough to think beyond the loose relationship she is relying on to make her points to see that the **** that she espouses is completely false conspiracy theory nonsense.

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Maybe step back and breathe.

Langley said:

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Kvetch said:

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She's openly dabbled in Holocaust denial, stated that the Nazis did not experiment on Jews, refers to Israel as the great Satan, and promulgated a litany of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about pedophilia and espionage.

Candace Owens is a certified nut who has fallen down the age-old rabbit hole of blaming the Jews for all ills in the world.

Regardless of whether Charlie Kirk was questioning the current state of the war in Israel, using that speculation as justification that somehow the Jews were involved in this shooting is blatant anti-Semitism. And those who promulgate it will frame it as "just asking questions."

Hopefully you are smart enough to think beyond the loose relationship she is relying on to make her points to see that the **** that she espouses is completely false conspiracy theory nonsense.

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I mean what is it's not "an old rabbit hole" and there is truth there.

Have you gone done the rabbit hole? Have you done any research?

Why are you so defensive?

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I'm not defensive. I'm very clearly stating that it's bull***** Asking whether I have researched whether the Jews are to blame for all the ills in the world is all I need to know about you. If you are going to insinuate, something have the balls to say it instead of hiding behind a facade of inquisitiveness.

"She's openly dabbled in Holocaust denial, stated that the Nazis did not experiment on Jews, refers to Israel as the great Satan, and promulgated a litany of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about pedophilia and espionage."

Okay, so she's a conspiracy theorist who doesn't like the state of Israel. She has a problem with pedophiles and foreign states spying on us. Did she say all Jews were spies and pedophiles? Did she say that she wants to experiment on or exterminate jews herself? Why does she say Israel is the great Satan? And why do you think Israel is not?

"Candace Owens is a certified nut who has fallen down the age-old rabbit hole of blaming the Jews for all ills in the world."

I mean certified nut I dont believe, and I also believe this is more manufactured than most think. I mean we've seen this playbook before. Someone is put into place to blame a group and cause others to act. Extremists are born, meanwhile divisions are created. On thebother hand, is she blaming all jews or Israel? I've seen her arguments about Israel, which is a state, but I haven't seen her say all jews are categorically bad. Maybe I'm wrong, but I dont trust her so I dont pay too much attention to her. But my point is, the distinctions are important. I do disagree with the state of Israel and many of the things they do, I dont have problems with Jews. Many actual Jews, and even Israelis are anti-zionist or against the state of Israel, so how is that stance anti-semitic? Especially given the definition of semite which i gave above.

"Regardless of whether Charlie Kirk was questioning the current state of the war in Israel, using that speculation as justification that somehow the Jews were involved in this shooting is blatant anti-Semitism. And those who promulgate it will frame it as "just asking questions.""

Again, is she saying Jews or Israel. Like, the Jews down the street are to blame, or the state of Israel? Everyone seems to just equate the two as the same thing.

"Hopefully you are smart enough to think beyond the loose relationship she is relying on to make her points to see that the **** that she espouses is completely false conspiracy theory nonsense."

Regardless of if she is espousing **** or completely false conspiracy theory nonsense as you say, where does it come from? Who is she actually blaming? Israel or all Jews? Maybe it's completely false and crazy, but just blanketing it with "anti-semitic" and whatever other pejorative is not constructive. Also, she did not say the word Jew one time in that clip. She only referenced the state of Israel and Bibi, which would mean she's saying it was a political assassination, not "the jews did this, the jews are bad".

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Im Gipper said:

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Lying scum

🚨 JUST IN: Candace Owens says Charlie Kirk was threatened during a closed-door “intervention” with billionaire Bill Ackman in the Hamptons — just weeks before his death.

She claims:

- Kirk was rethinking his stance on Israel
-Bibi Netanyahu personally reached out
- He was… pic.twitter.com/uEgqUAPITT

— Brian Allen (@allenanalysis) September 16, 2025

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How do you know?

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I know because she is a serial liar and because multiple people that were there have said what she is saying is false.

There is nothing, ZERO, to support her garbage. She gets more disgusting each day!

Notice how you don't provide any answers and are just "asking questions." Anybody can do that about any topic, regardless of whether their questions are based in fact or not. If you want to sit here and defend Candace, make positive claims and provide facts. Have the balls to say you think these conspiracy theories are true.

The burden of proof is on people like you to provide proof of the conspiracies you're peddling. The problem is you can't, so you just "ask questions" and make unfalsifiable claims to imply there must be something there even though you can't prove it.

That gal is a flat-out spinner...

Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

Keyno said:

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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If the only source is Owens, there is probably no reason to give this any thought.

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro were friends too. Shall we ask Ben whether what you're saying is true, or do you just take information from the sources that say what you want to hear?

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Keyno said:

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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If the only source is Owens, there is probably no reason to give this any thought.

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I believe Max Blumenthal alluded to it in his gray zone article. And another right winger has claimed he independently verified it.

Iran defenders now defending this. Shocking development.

Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro were friends too. Shall we ask Ben whether what you're saying is true, or do you just take information from the sources that say what you want to hear?

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Do you have a line to Ben Shapiro? Sure whats he have to say?

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Notice how you don't provide any answers and are just "asking questions." Anybody can do that about any topic, regardless of whether their questions are based in fact or not. If you want to sit here and defend Candace, make positive claims and provide facts. Have the balls to say you think these conspiracy theories are true.

The burden of proof is on people like you to provide proof of the conspiracies you're peddling. The problem is you can't, so you just "ask questions" and make unfalsifiable claims to imply there must be something there even though you can't prove it.

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True.

And please don't take this as me defending Candace or any looney like that. BUT...we are the problem because #1 we give them the attention they seek so much and #2 it works. Why? Because here we are arguing about something that's REALLY STUPID.

Much like we feel about left wing media setting narratives, she's doing the exact same thing. She's inflaming for clicks which in turn turns into $$$

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were friends.

Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk 150 million (double TPUSA annual budget) to shill harder for Israel, and Kirk turned it down

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Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro were friends too. Shall we ask Ben whether what you're saying is true, or do you just take information from the sources that say what you want to hear?

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Do you have a line to Ben Shapiro? Sure whats he have to say?

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He says shows me the evidence that's isn't hearsay from anti-Israel conspiracy theorists. Prove it.

each day she becomes more and more insane.

any rational and logical person can see this.

Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

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Tip: be a little more subtle when trolling.

Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

Im Gipper said:

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The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

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Tip: be a little more subtle when trolling.

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lol you wish I was trolling

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Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death

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This meeting?

I was also there, and everything Andrew says here is accurate. https://t.co/xa45tQmofK

— Josh Hammer (@josh_hammer) September 16, 2025

Two people there vs. Candace the liar Owens

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Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Ah yes. The hard hitting Brigitte Macron has a wang series. How she doesn't have a Pulitzer yet is flat out criminal.

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I'm betting you didn't see any of it. Go back to your Reddit talking points.

Farmer_J said:

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Candace is actually doing better than ever.

The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

The 'anyone who criticizes Israel is a nazi' side is losing credibility. They're at attacking reasonable people making reasonable arguments. Look at how they treated charlie kirk. Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death.

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Geraldo's investigation into Capone's safe is an example of this "series".

Farmer_J said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The series on the macrons is what investigative reporters used to do.

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Tip: be a little more subtle when trolling.

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lol you wish I was trolling

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Or that you went to a different university.

I'm not sure if you actually have an argument

Im Gipper said:

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Go look up the meeting that bill Ackman had with kirk before his death

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This meeting?

I was also there, and everything Andrew says here is accurate. https://t.co/xa45tQmofK

— Josh Hammer (@josh_hammer) September 16, 2025

Two people there vs. Candace the liar Owens

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Listen to Charlie Kirk after the meeting. It's not just Candace who is saying this. a lot of people on the inside. Additionally, do you really think somebody who was at the meeting is going to call out a billionaire? Cmon

Farmer_J said:

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I'm not sure if you actually have an argument

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Her series is garbage sensationalist BS, not based in reality.

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a lot of people on the inside

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"Inside" LOL

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a lot of people on the inside

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"Inside" LOL

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Who of course he won't name, or if he does, they were never there and just "heard things."

I am noticing the anti-Israel nutjobs are very similar to the leftists. They will take some tweet from someone who just made something up whole cloth and run with it. All evidence to the contrary is only proof of a cover-up from that point on, and nothing will ever convince them otherwise. They stack up all this "evidence" to back up their preconceived biases.

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Farmer_J said:

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I'm not sure if you actually have an argument

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Her series is garbage sensationalist BS, not based in reality.

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Haha. you're a joke

"The Jews are behind everything" crap is getting old.

I am a critic of outsized Israeli/Jewish influence on our government. And I don't think most Jews, who are secular, care about the same values I have. That is fair criticism.

But not everything is a nefarious Jewish plot....... and she has lost me completely.

Phatbob said:

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I am noticing the anti-Israel nutjobs are very similar to the leftists. They will take some tweet from someone who just made something up whole cloth and run with it. All evidence to the contrary is only proof of a cover-up from that point on, and nothing will ever convince them otherwise. They stack up all this "evidence" to back up their preconceived biases.

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I will say this ..... the right aligned critics of Jews/Israel are peaceful at least. The left - not so much.

Phatbob said:

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I am noticing the anti-Israel nutjobs are very similar to the leftists. They will take some tweet from someone who just made something up whole cloth and run with it. All evidence to the contrary is only proof of a cover-up from that point on, and nothing will ever convince them otherwise. They stack up all this "evidence" to back up their preconceived biases.

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Politics isn't a line; it is a circle.

The extremists on both sides lean so far that they become indistinguishable from one another. While they have different reasons for justifying their positions, they both believe in the same thing; ruling an all powerful government that can be used to exterminate anyone who doesn't agree with them.

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"Inside" LOL

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Who of course he won't name, or if he does, they were never there and just "heard things."

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You're right. Billionaire donors don't have God complexes and never yell at people.

I apologize

TheEternalOptimist said:

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Phatbob said:

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I am noticing the anti-Israel nutjobs are very similar to the leftists. They will take some tweet from someone who just made something up whole cloth and run with it. All evidence to the contrary is only proof of a cover-up from that point on, and nothing will ever convince them otherwise. They stack up all this "evidence" to back up their preconceived biases.

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I will say this ..... the right aligned critics of Jews/Israel are peaceful at least. The left - not so much.

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For now, mostly.

They don't preach peace and desire to be able to commit violence against Jews, blacks, and everyone else they hate (mostly anyone who isn't a white person of "northern European" descent.)