Seems every couple of weeks I see a news article about a military commander getting fired. Most seem to be in the Navy. With a potential conflict with China, it seems a bit troublesome.

Latest one:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/navy-fires-co-naval-information-214108282.html

The Navy removed the commanding officer of the Naval Information Warfare Training Group San Diego on Thursday.

Cmdr. Cayanne McFarlane was ousted from her leadership role due to a "loss of confidence in her ability to command," according to the service. She has been temporarily reassigned to Naval Information Forces.

Krazykat said:

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Seems every couple of weeks I see a news article about a military commander getting fired. Most seem to be in the Navy. With a potential conflict with China, it seems a bit troublesome.

Latest one:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/navy-fires-co-naval-information-214108282.html

The Navy removed the commanding officer of the Naval Information Warfare Training Group San Diego on Thursday.

Cmdr. Cayanne McFarlane was ousted from her leadership role due to a "loss of confidence in her ability to command," according to the service. She has been temporarily reassigned to Naval Information Forces.

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As the legendary James Brown once sang..."It's a man's world!"

Gotta know where our places are in the world according to him.

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I just wanted to point out appropriate use of the word rash in the thread title. Carry on.

It is to be expected. Folks who are allowed to promote before they are ready to serve in a leadership role….will fail. Bad things will happened. Lots of money will be lost…..for whatever reason and that will result in being fired or reassigned.

I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

FCBlitz said:

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It is to be expected. Folks who are allowed to promote before they are ready to serve in a leadership role….will fail. Bad things will happened. Lots of money will be lost…..for whatever reason and that will result in being fired or reassigned.

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Peter Principle. Drucker 101.

Nothing new. It's always happened.

WBBQ74 said:

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New sheriff in town come 20Jan. Lots of flag ranks are gonna get shown the door and that will be a good thing. Need to ditch the DEI crap and bring back the warriors. Real color blind folks.

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We can only hope.

Everyone wearing a star needs to go, along with most of the birds and half the oak leaves.

BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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Any insights on why she may have been relieved?

aggiehawg said:

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DEI appointments and promotions don't get the best people for the jobs?

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Companies across the nation are quietly ditching their DEI initiatives...

Looks like Malmstrom's MXG CC got fired recently as well. But to be fair, everyone in nukes gets fired eventually

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-fires-commander-nuclear-missile/

LeonardSkinner said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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Any insights on why she may have been relieved?

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It would only be speculation as I have not talked to her in a few years.

I know she's been in the Navy for 20+ years and was always positive and energetic about her service.

BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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She seems like a good young woman. Her father is probably very proud. But, with very few exceptions, women simply do not belong in positions of authority when we are dealing with something as critical and "savage" as the military/war.

Pretty much every military body throughout history would have scoffed at the notion of placing women high in the ranks of military command, or even sending them into battle.

You think the Romans had female centurions? Think they were idiots for not doing so? That's not directed at you btw...just rhetorical.

William Foster said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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She seems like a good young woman. Her father is probably very proud. But, with very few exceptions, women simply do not belong in positions of authority when we are dealing with something as critical and "savage" as the military/war.

Pretty much every military body throughout history would have scoffed at the notion of placing women high in the ranks of military command, or even sending them into battle.

You think the Romans had female centurions? Think they were idiots for not doing so? That's not directed at you btw...just rhetorical.

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What branch of the military did you serve in?

It is always interesting to know as the opinions of women serving seems to vary greatly from branch to branch.

BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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same, but I don't know what happened. There are so many things that can go wrong in command that CAN be somewhat out of your control, but you are ultimately responsible.

If it comes to it...being Woke and a Masters in CRT aren't going impress/instill fear in our enemies or save the rest of us!

PanzerAggie06 said:

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William Foster said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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She seems like a good young woman. Her father is probably very proud. But, with very few exceptions, women simply do not belong in positions of authority when we are dealing with something as critical and "savage" as the military/war.

Pretty much every military body throughout history would have scoffed at the notion of placing women high in the ranks of military command, or even sending them into battle.

You think the Romans had female centurions? Think they were idiots for not doing so? That's not directed at you btw...just rhetorical.

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What branch of the military did you serve in?

It is always interesting to know as the opinions of women serving seems to vary greatly from branch to branch.

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Guess I can't have an opinion on anything outside of my job eh?

Got a solid rebuttal for me?

I have nothing but admiration for women who serve or have served. I know and love several of them. But I just think there is a reason the vast majorioty of military bodies in the world have strayed from military commanders...even though there are very likely exceptions that would make badass commanders.

Has the dress-wearing freak resigned yet?

whatthehey78 said:

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If it comes to it...being Woke and a Masters in CRT aren't going impress/instill fear in our enemies or save the rest of us!

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I don't think most people realize that not everything in the military requires physical prowess. Ironically, Cayenne was very fit, routinely did crazy bay swim competitions, weightlifting competitions etc. Her job required more brains than brawn. Behind every specops mission is at least a handful of female analyst providing key intel, etc.

William Foster said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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William Foster said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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She seems like a good young woman. Her father is probably very proud. But, with very few exceptions, women simply do not belong in positions of authority when we are dealing with something as critical and "savage" as the military/war.

Pretty much every military body throughout history would have scoffed at the notion of placing women high in the ranks of military command, or even sending them into battle.

You think the Romans had female centurions? Think they were idiots for not doing so? That's not directed at you btw...just rhetorical.

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What branch of the military did you serve in?

It is always interesting to know as the opinions of women serving seems to vary greatly from branch to branch.

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Guess I can't have an opinion on anything outside of my job eh?

Got a solid rebuttal for me?

I have nothing but admiration for women who serve or have served. I know and love several of them. But I just think there is a reason the vast majorioty of military bodies in the world have strayed from military commanders...even though there are very likely exceptions that would make badass commanders.

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Haha. Relax Francis.

You're reading way to much into what I asked. It wasn't a "gotcha" question. Having said that it would seem I hit a nerve.

In the Navy it's admiralty MO to fire a captain whenever they make the news. They love making scapegoats of the men they placed in command. After all: if you don't fire the captain - someone might want THEM to take responsibility for shortcomings in training / judgement / resourcing / equipment / mission / etc.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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In the Navy it's admiralty MO to fire a captain whenever they make the news. They love making scapegoats of the men they placed in command. After all: if you don't fire the captain - someone might want THEM to take responsibility for shortcomings in training / judgement / resourcing / equipment / mission / etc.

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That is not just a Navy thing. The Army loves them a scapegoat.

Won't got into details as its long a drawn out but at a BDE training exercise I was involved in at Bliss an officer was accidentally killed because the BN he was in did not follow certain safety protocols. Was the BN commander, BN XO, BN S-3 relieved? Of course not.

They went down the ladder and found a 1LT and SSG to crush. It was rather comical... in a very sad way. While I was leaning towards getting out at that point this incident, in many ways, solidified my decision to leave the military.

bowhuntr said:

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whatthehey78 said:

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If it comes to it...being Woke and a Masters in CRT aren't going impress/instill fear in our enemies or save the rest of us!

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I don't think most people realize that not everything in the military requires physical prowess. Ironically, Cayenne was very fit, routinely did crazy bay swim competitions, weightlifting competitions etc. Her job required more brains than brawn. Behind every specops mission is at least a handful of female analyst providing key intel, etc.

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Blah, blah, blah. It's a well known fact the Academies are not graduating traditional 'combat ready' officers. Like academia everywhere...they've gone soft with leftest bent crap like Yale, Harvard, Georgetown, etc.

And yes, I have family and friends who are Academy (WP/AF) graduates. One made Brigadier, the other Lt. Gen.

whatthehey78 said:

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bowhuntr said:

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whatthehey78 said:

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If it comes to it...being Woke and a Masters in CRT aren't going impress/instill fear in our enemies or save the rest of us!

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I don't think most people realize that not everything in the military requires physical prowess. Ironically, Cayenne was very fit, routinely did crazy bay swim competitions, weightlifting competitions etc. Her job required more brains than brawn. Behind every specops mission is at least a handful of female analyst providing key intel, etc.

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Blah, blah, blah. It's a well known fact the Academies are not graduating traditional 'combat ready' officers. Like academia everywhere...they've gone soft with leftest bent crap like Yale, Harvard, Georgetown, etc.

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Perhaps, but she graduated under W…wasn't tracking that was a problem then. Heck Don't Ask Don't Tell was still in place.

CardiffGiant said:

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Looks like a family portrait..

LeonardSkinner said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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I know Cayanne and wouldn't call her a DEI hire.

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Any insights on why she may have been relieved?

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a real pepper that one...

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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In the Navy it's admiralty MO to fire a captain whenever they make the news. They love making scapegoats of the men they placed in command. After all: if you don't fire the captain - someone might want THEM to take responsibility for shortcomings in training / judgement / resourcing / equipment / mission / etc.

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That is not just a Navy thing. The Army loves them a scapegoat.

Won't got into details as its long a drawn out but at a BDE training exercise I was involved in at Bliss an officer was accidentally killed because the BN he was in did not follow certain safety protocols. Was the BN commander, BN XO, BN S-3 relieved? Of course not.

They went down the ladder and found a 1LT and SSG to crush. It was rather comical... in a very sad way. While I was leaning towards getting out at that point this incident, in many ways, solidified my decision to leave the military.

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Not just the Navy or Army...all the services do it.

I know two outstanding Lt Cols at BARKSDALE whose careers were effectively ended because of the 2017 Minot nuke cruise missile ferry screw up.

One was the DEPUTY Group/CC...not the constantly absent O6 GROUP/CC, who nothing happened to...and the other had been in command of the flying squadron involved for TWO WEEKS.

The real culprit was COMACC...who decided to accept risk with nuclear surety and the PRP so that B-52 could perform a conventional role in the Desert wars and more security police could be deployed.