Fox is reporting this - does anyone have more information? Said it was with a cargo ship, but no specifics.

Heard the hull was not breached, sounds like an Accident and not terrorism based on the report heard on the radio

How in the hell do 2 ships collide?

Someone(s) are getting fired for this.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/uss-harry-s-truman-involved-collision-near-egypt

bobbranco said:

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G Martin 87 said:

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2000AgPhD said:

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Fox is reporting this - does anyone have more information? Said it was with a cargo ship, but no specifics.

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How did anything but another Navy ship get close enough to an aircraft carrier to collide with it??

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Hope this is not because of some holdover woke ass b navigator.

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Or a former DEI ATC.

Panama-flagged bulker

https://gcaptain.com/aircraft-carrier-uss-harry-s-truman-involved-in-collision-with-merchant-vessel-near-port-said/

oh no said:

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how are accidents like this even possible?

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The dumbasses driving the ship suck and they were not supervised properly.

How is the other ship not a reef yet?

Question for the military/Navy posters: what consequences would crew members face if they were at fault and found negligent? A court martial? Demotion? Dishonorable discharge? Jail time? I have no idea and am curious.

Pretty big ship to run into or get hit by.

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how are accidents like this even possible?

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Good question. I've done a bit of sailing in busy waterways and can't imagine how this happens. My little boat had an instrument that allowed me to track nearby ships, not that I needed it to see enormous merchant ships. I'm guessing the pilots of each ship were not at their post. You'd think there would be collision warning systems on aircraft carriers but who knows.

I know some of that port traffic is super congested (like Singapore for instance) and maybe at night? But yeah...an aircraft carrier should be pretty hard to not see...

Both underway?

This happened multiple times about 8-10 years ago

Man, just a couple of months ago the USN was shooting down our own USS Truman F-18 (and at another), and now it's running into cargo ships. Not a seaman, but I think this is yet another indicia of a navy in need of some changes. At least give our super carriers some tug boats for protection, maybe even some brown water Army ships near ports!

-note, significant sarcasm in this post.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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This happened multiple times about 8-10 years ago

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From the GCaptain article linked a few posts up...

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In 2017, the USS John S. McCain (DDG-56) and USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62), both Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, were involved in two separate but similarly catastrophic collisions with merchant ships, resulting in the deaths of 17 Navy sailors. The incidents led to major investigations by the U.S. Navy, which uncovered systemic failures in training, leadership, and operational readiness.

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Sal didn't waste any time!


watching now. No commentary to add yet

Ok... Video indicates that Truman and Dunham were likely moving into position to be first in line for the South bound transit of the canal. They did not have their AIS turned on and were maneuvering through the canal anchorage. No AIS can make some sense due to OPSEC and not wanting to announce your exact location, and in the case of a canal transit, your upcoming location to the whole world.

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Pretty big ship to run into or get hit by.

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Looks like about a third the tonnage of the carrier though

GAC06 said:

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USA*** said:

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Pretty big ship to run into or get hit by.

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Looks like about a third the tonnage of the carrier though

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Agreed it's much smaller than the carrier, which is fortunate regardless who is at fault, but it's not "small" enough to have been missed, or at least shouldn't have been. But don't really know and just an observation.

What a beautiful ship! Love the aircraft carriers!

BREAKING: The USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, collided with the merchant vessel Besiktas-M near Port Said, Egypt.

No injuries or flooding reported. pic.twitter.com/oyjlYbsz1R

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) February 13, 2025

It's cool, guys.. the boat had plenty of fenders

Here's current traffic in the area. Lots of ships moving lots of places and a lot of ships anchored. Was the bulk carrier coming out of the canal northbound? Could potentially see where they would cut across a TSS or something. Who knows.

Yes.
Sal goes over all of that in his video. The bulker was north bound from a canal transit and had dropped off her pilot.
Truman and her escort had AIS off but were maneuvering, likely to be first in line for their south bound passage

Ais off is so ******ed. None of those ships even come up as USS TRUMAN or anything they are usually "warship XX" or US GOVT VESSEL.

That said, they would have had a radar return being that close in. It is kind of wild how insignificant the radar return of a carrier is at much distance though.

JimmyHouston said:

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Panama-flagged bulker

https://gcaptain.com/aircraft-carrier-uss-harry-s-truman-involved-in-collision-with-merchant-vessel-near-port-said/

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Seems this has happened before.
quote from the article concerning the previous incidents;

• The incidents led to major investigations by the U.S. Navy, which uncovered systemic failures in training, leadership, and operational readiness.

Will be interesting what comes out regarding this collision, thankfully no reports of injuries.

Its a lot like Malacca Straits and the approaches to Singapore. Very congested traffic.

That a collision can happen is not as surprising as it may look. It requires some foolishness though, and or instrument failure. Not much room for carelessness or bad navigation. Daylight can mislead into complacency and night is just dangerous.

Also can come from a usurpation of right-of-way and something not far removed from `chicken'. Warships tend to assume it. However, smart sea navigation always takes into account the LESS responsive to helm and maneuverable ship. Destroyers are expected to for example, with tankers, even though they are the warship.

Now this will likely end some careers and possibly should. But its not astonishing given the location.

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Ais off is so ******ed. None of those ships even come up as USS TRUMAN or anything they are usually "warship XX" or US GOVT VESSEL.

That said, they would have had a radar return being that close in. It is kind of wild how insignificant the radar return of a carrier is at much distance though.

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They are US Govt Vessel, but it looks like there are photos of the vessel on their AIS tag.
So does the Govt want to announce to the world that a Capitol ship is spending the day in anchorage and about the spend the next 12-16 hours within the confines of the canal?

I realize you can't hide them and anyone sitting near the entrance can physically see them, and presumably any of the other ships within the general vicinity of the anchorage could/would see them in good weather...

But I'm assuming that turning off AIS will significantly cut down their digital announcement to the world their exact location for a given 24-36hr period.