I used to laugh at people who wore masks, especially in the car until I had to do it myself.

When I had COVID a few weeks ago, I wore a mask and gloves in the car and inside Kroger because I didn't want to spread it. I used to think people were overreacting, but then I found myself doing the same thing. I needed medication and food, and no one was available to help at the time. I even kept the mask on in the car to prevent spreading it since my wife would be driving it later.

Funny how something seems crazy until you're the one doing it :-)

Medical Face Masks work very well...for what they were actually designed for.

i.e. single use, in a controlled sterile environment (operating room), with the patient lying flat on a table, physically cut open, with the surgeon and attending nurses standing directly over. Yeah, in those circumstances, they are very effective at preventing saliva from falling into the exposed internal organs.

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It's their decision regardless. That's why we live where we do. It is a free country.

I agree, some people are overboard on wearing a mask. Like the couple driving together I saw yesterday in full on mask. But if they want to, that's fine, as long as they don't try and make me wear one.

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That's the problem. I know that masks do not stop the transmission of la rona or flu thus see no need in wearing one. However, MSM, Fauci, Biden, Trump all started this ineffective crap, the outrageous toward those of us that choose not to do ineffective things .

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But they do help me.

I have another papascentisis today. I have lost almost 50 pounds since entering in January. I have rapidly dropping BP. 84 over 72. A hemoglobin level barely above 6.

You may not want to make it until May of 2027but I do. And masks help me stay available for that. Because I won't get as sick.

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I choose the natural immunity method rather than a mask that will not stop the size of flu or la Rona. I took Ivermectin thru the entire thing, never masked up, only filled about 500 food orders daily indicating exposure to 500+ humans, and never caught anything nor did any of my employees.
Every person I

knew that did masks, caught it.

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Yay for you.


But I am not mocking you

I just want to live

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Me too, but not in fear.

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I used to laugh at people who wore masks, especially in the car until I had to do it myself.

When I had COVID a few weeks ago, I wore a mask and gloves in the car and inside Kroger because I didn't want to spread it. I used to think people were overreacting, but then I found myself doing the same thing. I needed medication and food, and no one was available to help at the time. I even kept the mask on in the car to prevent spreading it since my wife would be driving it later.

Funny how something seems crazy until you're the one doing it :-)

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You were overreacting.

COVID, the weakass virus it is, isn't spread by you driving the car and then your wife. So your gloves were overreactions. Your mask was useless, as has been proven even before COVID.

HTH
YWIA

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It's their decision regardless. That's why we live where we do. It is a free country.

I agree, some people are overboard on wearing a mask. Like the couple driving together I saw yesterday in full on mask. But if they want to, that's fine, as long as they don't try and make me wear one.

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That's the problem. I know that masks do not stop the transmission of la rona or flu thus see no need in wearing one. However, MSM, Fauci, Biden, Trump all started this ineffective crap, the outrageous toward those of us that choose not to do ineffective things .

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But they do help me.

I have another papascentisis today. I have lost almost 50 pounds since entering in January. I have rapidly dropping BP. 84 over 72. A hemoglobin level barely above 6.

You may not want to make it until May of 2027but I do. And masks help me stay available for that. Because I won't get as sick.

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I choose the natural immunity method rather than a mask that will not stop the size of flu or la Rona. I took Ivermectin thru the entire thing, never masked up, only filled about 500 food orders daily indicating exposure to 500+ humans, and never caught anything nor did any of my employees.
Every person I

knew that did masks, caught it.

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Yay for you.


But I am not mocking you

I just want to live

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Me too, but not in fear.

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Do you have what I have?

Tanya,

You keep going and doing what you are doing. I don't know what the ascites treatment is for but wish you well.

I have no problem with folks with real medical issues masking up. I have no problem with folks having imaginary issues masking up. I just wish the heck they would do it properly.

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

What do you think when you see someone wearing a mask?

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They don't work

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They DO work to limit the spread of pathogens from the person wearing them to others. It's why everyone on surgical teams wears them every single time there's an operation.

What masks DON'T protect is the person wearing them from being infected. At least not very well. The protection level is just above zero.

What's amazing is how many people got duped into believing that masks are a good way to keep safe. They aren't.

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People literally had their lives ruined over pseudoscience and government lies during Covid. It's truly amazing that you can still defend it. Nearly everything Democrats defended and demanded during Covid was based on money and control guised as "science."

You're probably a SNL fan and think everyone who voted for Trump is racist too, right?

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People had their lives ruined because of a novel coronavirus. Sorry about your/our luck.

FTFY

You can make **** up all day, doesn't make it true.

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My luck was fine. I didn't get the jab. I don't have to worry about the long-term effects of an unproven and ineffective vaccine that many were forced to take. It's actually hilarious and sad to me that people like you still believe the BS even when you are reading a board where truth is available to you. It would be one thing if you were a poor sap who only watched MSNBC. But you're here. That makes you astoundingly stubborn and ignorant when it comes to "the science."

It wasn't REAL science dude. And many doctors (those people who have spent their lives in the field) knew it then and certainly know it now. We live in a world where money trumps all, and a lot of people got rich on the vaccine you continue to defend.

And masks aren't effective for stopping the spread of Covid or Influenza. They are, however, pretty good at stopping dust when I mow my lawn.

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Yeah I don't need you to tell me what the doctors think, I work with many. We had the triage tents, I've seen it. I've seen the science and I've seen the vaccine report for our clinic and our hospital, 100% of our physicians, 100% of the hospital. We had no mandate.


You're telling me these providers, who spent a decade+ of their lives, just to get a diploma to go to work, and then another decade+ to build a practice, who spend all day seeing patients and doing research constantly (if we had a dashboard for UpToDate it'd be continually updating). It's their job. You're telling me they took "thE jAb" willy nilly?

Everything you've said is false.

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No. They, like you and me, are just people who made choices based on what their government and the media was telling them. We all have stories about Covid. We're not talking about triage tents. We're talking about the Covid lies that you still believe to be true even now that they've been debunked.

My doctor prescribed me Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine when I got Covid. He's works in the Austin area and has practiced for over 30 years. Was he wrong to prescribe these drugs? Do you still believe the vaccine stops transmission? Do you still believe beaches should be locked down? Do you still believe healthy children need the vaccine? Do you still believe natural immunity after recovering from Covid is a myth? You obviously STILL believe masks work. Even Fauci is laughing at you.

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Was he wrong to prescribe these drugs?
Legally? No, but there's no indication for those. You wasted time and money. He made some cash on a visit though.

So a doctor's opinion only matters when they side with you. Otherwise they are complicit in merely profiting off their patients. But all the docs you know in your triage unit were acting in good faith. Got it.

Do you still believe the vaccine stops transmission?
No one claimed vaccines stop transmission. If they did, they missspoke or were wrong. Vaccines prime immune response so you end up with less viral load when/if you contract the virus. Less load, less likely to spread. Simple. An adjacent goal was to reduce severe illness, especially illness leading to hospitalization.

Yes they did. YOUR PRESIDENT DID JUST THAT. Media outlets pushed this nonsense plenty. Stop acting like you don't remember. It was posted plenty on this board.



Do you still believe beaches should be locked down?
In hindsight, probably not. In context, noval virus = some attempts to curb spread will be wrong, again, in hindsight it's easy to say it was stupid.

Plenty of doctors believed it was poor logic in real time. Again, you remember what you want to remember.


Do you still believe healthy children need the vaccine?
Still? That's for the patient and provider to decide based on the health of the child. During the pandemic, the goal in the child population (IMO) was to further help reduce spread. A bunch of asymptomatic, high viral load gremlins going to see grandma isn't ideal. Again, context is important.

You mean the provider (as you argued) who is trying to profit off their visits and prescribes drugs that are a waste of time and money? Those providers?


Do you still believe natural immunity after recovering from Covid is a myth?
I've literally never met someone with this opinion. We all know how the immun system works. We also know how mutation in virus' works, I'll let you put those two together for why you may have heard that comment, I've never seen that expresed, though.

Your government pushed the lie that natural immunity does not work. People who had proof that they had contracted Covid and recovered were STILL forced to take the shot against their will or lose their jobs. This was prevalent in the military and at many civilian places of employment. But you've never met someone with this opinion. Riiiiiiight. At least be honest.

You obviously STILL believe masks work.
Because they do. They may not "work" in the made up, bad-faith argument of a vaccine skeptic, they aren't 100% effective, but they help reduce the spread of virus. Again, please go look up viral load. And, if we actually wanted to parse this out you'd need to clarify which masks. Bandanas? Surgical? N95? Respirators?

Wasn't referring to N95 masks in this thread. No one was referring to N95 masks. Was referring to the basic procedural face masks that are clearly marked as not stopping an infection. But of course you're going to inject them into the discussion to try to argue your point.

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I used to laugh at people who wore masks, especially in the car until I had to do it myself.

When I had COVID a few weeks ago, I wore a mask and gloves in the car and inside Kroger because I didn't want to spread it. I used to think people were overreacting, but then I found myself doing the same thing. I needed medication and food, and no one was available to help at the time. I even kept the mask on in the car to prevent spreading it since my wife would be driving it later.

Funny how something seems crazy until you're the one doing it :-)

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You were overreacting.

COVID, the weakass virus it is, isn't spread by you driving the car and then your wife. So your gloves were overreactions. Your mask was useless, as has been proven even before COVID.

HTH
YWIA

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Would you be okay with me walking around the store, coughing, and touching everything? Are you saying surface transmission isn't a concern? I really didn't want anyone to have what I had at the time -- COVID, flu. or whatever.

ETA: I didn't wear a mask and gloves to protect myself from others but to protect others from me. I'd appreciate the same if you're sick, and I wouldn't think you're crazy for it.

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I used to laugh at people who wore masks, especially in the car until I had to do it myself.

When I had COVID a few weeks ago, I wore a mask and gloves in the car and inside Kroger because I didn't want to spread it. I used to think people were overreacting, but then I found myself doing the same thing. I needed medication and food, and no one was available to help at the time. I even kept the mask on in the car to prevent spreading it since my wife would be driving it later.

Funny how something seems crazy until you're the one doing it :-)

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You were overreacting.

COVID, the weakass virus it is, isn't spread by you driving the car and then your wife. So your gloves were overreactions. Your mask was useless, as has been proven even before COVID.

HTH
YWIA

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Would you be okay with me walking around the store, coughing, and touching everything? Are you saying surface transmission isn't a concern? I really didn't want anyone to have what I had at the time -- COVID, flu or whatever.

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Yes. I'd be fine with that. It happened all of the time before everyone got *****ified by COVID and the overreactions to said WAV.

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I used to laugh at people who wore masks, especially in the car until I had to do it myself.

When I had COVID a few weeks ago, I wore a mask and gloves in the car and inside Kroger because I didn't want to spread it. I used to think people were overreacting, but then I found myself doing the same thing. I needed medication and food, and no one was available to help at the time. I even kept the mask on in the car to prevent spreading it since my wife would be driving it later.

Funny how something seems crazy until you're the one doing it :-)

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You were overreacting.

COVID, the weakass virus it is, isn't spread by you driving the car and then your wife. So your gloves were overreactions. Your mask was useless, as has been proven even before COVID.

HTH
YWIA

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Would you be okay with me walking around the store, coughing, and touching everything? Are you saying surface transmission isn't a concern? I really didn't want anyone to have what I had at the time -- COVID, flu or whatever.

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I appreciate you looking out for your fellow man.

What I was referring to in this thread were the people who are not sick, going to work or sending their children to school with masks on to prevent them from getting sick.

When I see someone with a mask I think "Oh they must be sick" then I avoid them. I wish more sick people worn masks.

Yea don't get me wrong. I don't care who wears them although I take great pleasure in seeing those alone in the car wearing them.
Just don't expect me to wear one.

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

What do you think when you see someone wearing a mask?

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I think they probably have a reason. We have a friend who wears one all the time because she is all alone and has no one to care for her if she gets sick, has a job which pays no sick time off and also her job involves being around lots of people. She is just being cautious.

Teacher next door to me had two different flus at same time but was out of days off. She came to school and wore a mask and it was sort of a sign to social distance from her. After she was clear of fever she took off the mask. I have about a third of my students Asian and many of them wore masks even before Covid. It is cultural.

I don't wear a mask because I am scared of flu or covid

I wear one because I am dying


If you read the GB or my FB, you will understand some of the issues.

I do hate the upper GIs though

Sorry to hear about your condition.

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I don't wear a mask because I am scared of flu or covid

I wear one because I am dying


If you read the GB or my FB, you will understand some of the issues.

I do hate the upper GIs though

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Sorry to hear that you are sick.

I know women who wear masks when they go shopping because they don't want to do their makeup, but don't want anyone to see their face.

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

What do you think when you see someone wearing a mask?

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Because I'm not a small shriveled deeply insecure husk of what used to be a human, I don't give it a second thought. Same with someone wearing a MAGA cap, or someone dressed in drag.

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They're gullible and they believe they actually do something. So from now on for the rest of their lives, they're going to wear them every flu season. I don't really care that they do because it's their right to do so but they're not doing any good so it really labels them as being ignorant.

Fauci and the CDC really did a number on these people. They are absolutely convinced that these masks are preventing them from getting sick or sicker than they are. They are not. They might as well be wearing tampons in their ears.

What really gets me though is half of them wearing them don't even wear them "correctly" they're not over their noses. They're barely covering their face so I don't understand why they're wearing them. Saw a guy working in Bucees yesterday that had one on, but had it under his chin, barely covering his mouth and over his ears. What's the point?

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

What do you think when you see someone wearing a mask?

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Because I'm not a small shriveled deeply insecure husk of what used to be a human, I don't give it a second thought. Same with someone wearing a MAGA cap, or someone dressed in drag.

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It's not about being insecure, it's just kind of sad seeing people doing something that isn't making any difference because they believed and still believe false propaganda. Of course it's their right to wear them and have at it, but it's just sad that they're so gullible and ignorant. And as I said above, most of them aren't even wearing them "correctly" according to the guidance. So what's the point?

But then plenty of people who don't wear masks are gullible and ignorant. Just as you seem to get upset over people commenting on them. That's just what we're doing but in a different way. Funny how it's OK for you to do it but not other people. I would suggest getting over yourself.

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I used to laugh at people who wore masks, especially in the car until I had to do it myself.

When I had COVID a few weeks ago, I wore a mask and gloves in the car and inside Kroger because I didn't want to spread it. I used to think people were overreacting, but then I found myself doing the same thing. I needed medication and food, and no one was available to help at the time. I even kept the mask on in the car to prevent spreading it since my wife would be driving it later.

Funny how something seems crazy until you're the one doing it :-)

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Why did you think you would spread it?

Were you kissing or breathing on people?

Natural immunity is more effective.

Don't get behind one in the self checkout line. Strong odds they won't know how to use the machine and end up wasting everyone's time behind them.

Wearing a mask during flu season is okay by me.

One of the few positives to come from the Covid era.

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Wearing a mask during flu season is okay by me.

One of the few positives to come from the Covid era.

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But it's not doing anything. So it's not a positive.

But the fact that many people believe this is a bit disturbing but again feel free.

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

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Because I'm not a small shriveled deeply insecure husk of what used to be a human, I don't give it a second thought. Same with someone wearing a MAGA cap, or someone dressed in drag.

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It's not about being insecure, it's just kind of sad seeing people doing something that isn't making any difference because they believed and still believe false propaganda. Of course it's their right to wear them and have at it, but it's just sad that they're so gullible and ignorant. And as I said above, most of them aren't even wearing them "correctly" according to the guidance. So what's the point?

But then plenty of people who don't wear masks are gullible and ignorant. Just as you seem to get upset over people commenting on them. That's just what we're doing but in a different way. Funny how it's OK for you to do it but not other people. I would suggest getting over yourself.

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It does make a difference for me.

Not everything is about covid.

If masks work so well why did covid continue to spread when they were mandated?

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If masks work so well why did covid continue to spread when they were mandated?

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Shhhhh. They don't like to admit this.

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

What do you think when you see someone wearing a mask?

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Because I'm not a small shriveled deeply insecure husk of what used to be a human, I don't give it a second thought. Same with someone wearing a MAGA cap, or someone dressed in drag.

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It's not about being insecure, it's just kind of sad seeing people doing something that isn't making any difference because they believed and still believe false propaganda. Of course it's their right to wear them and have at it, but it's just sad that they're so gullible and ignorant. And as I said above, most of them aren't even wearing them "correctly" according to the guidance. So what's the point?

But then plenty of people who don't wear masks are gullible and ignorant. Just as you seem to get upset over people commenting on them. That's just what we're doing but in a different way. Funny how it's OK for you to do it but not other people. I would suggest getting over yourself.

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It does make a difference for me.

Not everything is about covid.

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We were talking about the flu, but if you believe it helps you or it does depending on the illness you have, then that's good and your choice.

Cancer patients and things on the outside of Covid or flu is not what we've ever argued against. And in all fairness, you're right there could be some people that are wearing them for other things but before Covid, it was never many and I doubt it is now, but if people want to lump them all together, I can't stop them.

I'm sorry you're having medical difficulties, but that's not really what this discussion is about. And you know that.

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Seeing more and more people out in public (grocery stores and such) wearing masks. Seeing my custiodian where I work and a few others wearing masks.

What do you think when you see someone wearing a mask?

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Because I'm not a small shriveled deeply insecure husk of what used to be a human, I don't give it a second thought. Same with someone wearing a MAGA cap, or someone dressed in drag.

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Interesting. What kinds of things do you think about?

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People literally had their lives ruined over pseudoscience and government lies during Covid. It's truly amazing that you can still defend it. Nearly everything Democrats defended and demanded during Covid was based on money and control guised as "science."

You're probably a SNL fan and think everyone who voted for Trump is racist too, right?

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People had their lives ruined because of a novel coronavirus. Sorry about your/our luck.

FTFY

You can make **** up all day, doesn't make it true.

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My luck was fine. I didn't get the jab. I don't have to worry about the long-term effects of an unproven and ineffective vaccine that many were forced to take. It's actually hilarious and sad to me that people like you still believe the BS even when you are reading a board where truth is available to you. It would be one thing if you were a poor sap who only watched MSNBC. But you're here. That makes you astoundingly stubborn and ignorant when it comes to "the science."

It wasn't REAL science dude. And many doctors (those people who have spent their lives in the field) knew it then and certainly know it now. We live in a world where money trumps all, and a lot of people got rich on the vaccine you continue to defend.

And masks aren't effective for stopping the spread of Covid or Influenza. They are, however, pretty good at stopping dust when I mow my lawn.

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Yeah I don't need you to tell me what the doctors think, I work with many. We had the triage tents, I've seen it. I've seen the science and I've seen the vaccine report for our clinic and our hospital, 100% of our physicians, 100% of the hospital. We had no mandate.


You're telling me these providers, who spent a decade+ of their lives, just to get a diploma to go to work, and then another decade+ to build a practice, who spend all day seeing patients and doing research constantly (if we had a dashboard for UpToDate it'd be continually updating). It's their job. You're telling me they took "thE jAb" willy nilly?

Everything you've said is false.

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No. They, like you and me, are just people who made choices based on what their government and the media was telling them. We all have stories about Covid. We're not talking about triage tents. We're talking about the Covid lies that you still believe to be true even now that they've been debunked.

My doctor prescribed me Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine when I got Covid. He's works in the Austin area and has practiced for over 30 years. Was he wrong to prescribe these drugs? Do you still believe the vaccine stops transmission? Do you still believe beaches should be locked down? Do you still believe healthy children need the vaccine? Do you still believe natural immunity after recovering from Covid is a myth? You obviously STILL believe masks work. Even Fauci is laughing at you.

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Do you still believe the vaccine stops transmission?
No one claimed vaccines stop transmission. If they did, they missspoke or were wrong. Vaccines prime immune response so you end up with less viral load when/if you contract the virus. Less load, less likely to spread. Simple. An adjacent goal was to reduce severe illness, especially illness leading to hospitalization.

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Absolute bull*****

I can quote numerous individuals in the Federal government who said - while the pandemic was in full play - that the vax prevented infection and transmission. They did not misspeak!

Rochelle Walensky said that. Do you know who that is?

And that take is FOS on what a vaccine does. Before COVID, vaccines were taken to prevent infection and spread. Mitigating symptoms my rear.

Took my MSHA refresher last week. Watched a video all about respirators and the proper fit and type respirators for certain jobs. I wish the people who wear these BS masks could watch that video and realize that if keeping particles that are probably 50 x larger than a virus out of your lungs is a complicated as that video illustrated, then those masks are about as useless as one could imagine.

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Wearing a mask during flu season is okay by me.

One of the few positives to come from the Covid era.

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But it's not doing anything. So it's not a positive.

But the fact that many people believe this is a bit disturbing but again feel free.

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If someone has symptoms of the flu and cough in someone's face, chances are, they are going to get sick.

I have gotten the flu touching a door handle that a sick person touched seconds before me.

My advise, if you got symptoms of the flu and have to go out, mask up and wear throw away gloves.


But you be you and stay away from those that disturb you.

Typically, when I see someone wearing a mask in any location, I try to take my advice I give my kids…"shut the hell up and mind my own business."

I used to think about it but then I realized I cared so little about what that person does in their life that it wasn't worth letting it live rent free in my head or disturb my day to the point I feel the need to discuss it on social media. Who cares?