So did Hamas release all the hostages before Noon?

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Ghost91
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Out of town all weekend plus the holiday and barely looked at news. No thread about it on the first two pages - surprising.
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Ghost91 said:

Out of town all weekend plus the holiday and barely looked at news. No thread about it on the first two pages - surprising.
No they did not. I'm not surprised. I'm sure Israel can take care of it. They don't need Trump to tell them what to do.
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Trump simply told Bibi, "do what you want." Give it time.
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ttu_85 said:

Trump simply told Bibi, "do what you want." Give it time.
Exactly, the Israeli response will be effective and precise, you can just about guarantee that.
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Ghost91 said:

Out of town all weekend plus the holiday and barely looked at news. No thread about it on the first two pages - surprising.
Three were released. In other words, they resumed releasing hostages.

You would think that the Jews would be better negotiators regarding hostages. Releasing all those muslim terrorist for 70 hostages doesn't sound like they were good at making a deal.
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Yes they do. They can't fight alone. Pretty sad actually.
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Boomer#85 said:

Ghost91 said:

Out of town all weekend plus the holiday and barely looked at news. No thread about it on the first two pages - surprising.
Three were released. In other words, they resumed releasing hostages.

You would think that the Jews would be better negotiators regarding hostages. Releasing all those muslim terrorist for 70 hostages doesn't sound like they were good at making a deal.
In a way this is right. In another way it shows pretty starkly that both they and the Palestinians acknowledge that one Israeli life is worth many Hamas terrorist lives.
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It's all bluster…..never meant it. Going to be a rough four years……..
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ShotOver said:

It's all bluster…..never meant it. Going to be a rough four years……..
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Riiight. You don't even believe that garbage.
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I imagine Trump had told Israel they can do what they must. Israel is probably weighing whether is is better to be aggressive or patient, regarding the remaining hostages.
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Boomer#85 said:

Ghost91 said:

Out of town all weekend plus the holiday and barely looked at news. No thread about it on the first two pages - surprising.
Three were released. In other words, they resumed releasing hostages.

You would think that the Jews would be better negotiators regarding hostages. Releasing all those muslim terrorist for 70 hostages doesn't sound like they were good at making a deal.
There are still SEVEN Americans being held hostage by Hamas in Gaza.

You would think that the Americans would be better negotiators regarding hostages.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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You can't bomb HAMAS back to the stone age, that shipped sailed months ago.
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Hmm. I love Trump, but I have to admit this is disappointing.

He made it sound like WE were going to unleash hell on them if they didn't free all the hostages by the deadline. Seemed reasonable to view his words that way, since it would align nicely with the other part of his message that the U.S. is going to take over Gaza.

If he INSTEAD just meant that he would support Israel in doing whatever they want post-deadline, I think he should've said that. Which wouldn't really be any change from what we were already doing - they already had our full support.
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Only thing left to bomb is the rubble.
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That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed
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Mr. Fingerbottom said:

That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed


Well, I know that, but 99% of this board (me included) was giddy about the prospect of Trump (the U.S., not Israel) wiping things clean since "all attempts of the last 1,000+ years have failed."

What was the point of the deadline and all the hoopla when we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks?
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The previous admin had since Oct 7, 2023 to bring our hostages to safety. Instead they chose to lecture Israel on why being murdered and raped is actually good for you.

If they had done their job this would already be over but they chose to continue their path of destroying America and it's allies.
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Ghost91 said:

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed


Well, I know that, but 99% of this board (me included) was giddy about the prospect of Trump (the U.S., not Israel) wiping things clean since "all attempts of the last 1,000+ years have failed."

What was the point of the deadline and all the hoopla when we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks?
Do we know nothing was done? Would prefer a scenario where find all the top have been slain by 00 types in inns. Did our deadline say what form our wrath would take? If its covert, it may not be visible immediately.
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I recall Pres Trump clearly saying there would be hell to pay…what is missed by most is at same time he said if he were calling the shots. He also said same news conference that it ultimately was Israel's decision and he'd back what they decided. Obviously Trump is following exactly what he said he'd do.
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Hamas likely murdered them back in October 2023.

very few Hamas leaders will still be breathing a year from now:

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Ghost91 said:

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed


Well, I know that, but 99% of this board (me included) was giddy about the prospect of Trump (the U.S., not Israel) wiping things clean since "all attempts of the last 1,000+ years have failed."

What was the point of the deadline and all the hoopla when we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks?

because you are either lying or wildly ignorant of the actual situation.

to claim that "we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks" is so far from reality in so many ways:

1. Biden and Harris stopped shipments of 1,800 one ton bombs (which were just released by Trump last week)

2. Biden and Harris threatened Israel not to go into Rafah (Israel ignored them)

3. Biden and Harris told israel not to invade the Gaza Strip

4. Biden and Harris NEVER stated that Hamas must immediately release all the hostages or there would be hell to pay

5. Biden and Harris blocked the delivery of 167 D-9 Bulldozers used to clear IEDs (Trump is releasing them now)

6. the Biden State Department stopped numerous shipments of defense articles to the IDF

7 Biden left Israel to fend for itself in the International Criminal Court where they labeled an arrest warrant for Netanyahu (Trump has put sanctions on the ICC and their leader Islamist theocrat Khan)

8. Biden left Israel on it's own in the United Nations and the UNRWA and the WHO and the International Committee of the Red Cross
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titan said:

Ghost91 said:

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed


Well, I know that, but 99% of this board (me included) was giddy about the prospect of Trump (the U.S., not Israel) wiping things clean since "all attempts of the last 1,000+ years have failed."

What was the point of the deadline and all the hoopla when we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks?
Do we know nothing was done? Would prefer a scenario where find all the top have been slain by 00 types in inns. Did our deadline say what form our wrath would take? If its covert, it may not be visible immediately.


Okay. All I know is that a week ago we were asking which time zone Noon was and getting our popcorn ready.
Now we sound like libs making excuses - "maybe we did eliminate top brass and just haven't announced it"…."No, Trump clearly meant Israel, this isn't on us"…."Oh, he meant at Noon Saturday we start supporting Israel."
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LMCane said:

Ghost91 said:

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed


Well, I know that, but 99% of this board (me included) was giddy about the prospect of Trump (the U.S., not Israel) wiping things clean since "all attempts of the last 1,000+ years have failed."

What was the point of the deadline and all the hoopla when we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks?

because you are either lying or wildly ignorant of the actual situation.

to claim that "we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks" is so far from reality in so many ways:

1. Biden and Harris stopped shipments of 1,800 one ton bombs (which were just released by Trump last week)

2. Biden and Harris threatened Israel not to go into Rafah (Israel ignored them)

3. Biden and Harris told israel not to invade the Gaza Strip

4. Biden and Harris NEVER stated that Hamas must immediately release all the hostages or there would be hell to pay

5. Biden and Harris blocked the delivery of 167 D-9 Bulldozers used to clear IEDs (Trump is releasing them now)

6. the Biden State Department stopped numerous shipments of defense articles to the IDF

7 Biden left Israel to fend for itself in the International Criminal Court where they labeled an arrest warrant for Netanyahu (Trump has put sanctions on the ICC and their leader Islamist theocrat Khan)

8. Biden left Israel on it's own in the United Nations and the UNRWA and the WHO and the International Committee of the Red Cross


You're 100% right. What I should've said was that we've supported whatever Israel wants to do since Trump was sworn in.
But still, why give a classic western 'high noon' deadline if all we meant was "As of noon this coming Saturday, we STILL support whatever Israel wants to do"?
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I think it's a fine strategy to get them all anxious about the deadline, watch what they do, let them relax thinking it was all bluster, then hit them when they think they got away with it.

In any case, I never believed Trump was going to take over dealing with Hamas. This is Israel's show, but I'm sure that if they wanted to have the U.S. play a role, Trump would do whatever they asked.
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this entire family was brutally murdered by rifle fire on 7 October 2023



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American Hardwood said:

I think it's a fine strategy to get them all anxious about the deadline, watch what they do, let them relax thinking it was all bluster, then hit them when they think they got away with it.

In any case, I never believed Trump was going to take over dealing with Hamas. This is Israel's show, but I'm sure that if they wanted to have the U.S. play a role, Trump would do whatever they asked.
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Trump is completely chaging the rules of the game and scaring the cr@p out of Hamas

"you don't want to release the hostages?"

"great, then we will have all the Palestinians leave Gaza"
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Ghost91 said:

LMCane said:

Ghost91 said:

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

That's not our fight


We have our own issues on our borders & scum human illegals inside our borders to be removed


Well, I know that, but 99% of this board (me included) was giddy about the prospect of Trump (the U.S., not Israel) wiping things clean since "all attempts of the last 1,000+ years have failed."

What was the point of the deadline and all the hoopla when we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks?

because you are either lying or wildly ignorant of the actual situation.

to claim that "we've supported Israel in doing whatever they want ever since the October 7 attacks" is so far from reality in so many ways:

1. Biden and Harris stopped shipments of 1,800 one ton bombs (which were just released by Trump last week)

2. Biden and Harris threatened Israel not to go into Rafah (Israel ignored them)

3. Biden and Harris told israel not to invade the Gaza Strip

4. Biden and Harris NEVER stated that Hamas must immediately release all the hostages or there would be hell to pay

5. Biden and Harris blocked the delivery of 167 D-9 Bulldozers used to clear IEDs (Trump is releasing them now)

6. the Biden State Department stopped numerous shipments of defense articles to the IDF

7 Biden left Israel to fend for itself in the International Criminal Court where they labeled an arrest warrant for Netanyahu (Trump has put sanctions on the ICC and their leader Islamist theocrat Khan)

8. Biden left Israel on it's own in the United Nations and the UNRWA and the WHO and the International Committee of the Red Cross


You're 100% right. What I should've said was that we've supported whatever Israel wants to do since Trump was sworn in.
But still, why give a classic western 'high noon' deadline if all we meant was "As of noon this coming Saturday, we STILL support whatever Israel wants to do"?
I view it as giving Hamas a chance to save face where they can capitulate and release the hostages during this status quo period where escalation has not really been ramped up yet (bombs and equipment have been released to Israel, but not put into effect yet).

If they still hold out, then this deadline has shown that any escalation by Israel is a result of Hamas' unwillingness to peacefully deal.
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ttu_85 said:

Trump simply told Bibi, "do what you want." Give it time.


So... Basically what they've been doing?
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Yes, but with the complete understanding that America would not be working against Israel like they were before January 20.
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LMCane said:

this entire family was brutally murdered by rifle fire on 7 October 2023






Hamas are some sick people, who kills a family like this ? I wouldn't stop until their leaders are ground back in the soil of the earth .. turn them into road base
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Boomer#85 said:

Ghost91 said:

Out of town all weekend plus the holiday and barely looked at news. No thread about it on the first two pages - surprising.
Three were released. In other words, they resumed releasing hostages.

You would think that the Jews would be better negotiators regarding hostages. Releasing all those muslim terrorist for 70 hostages doesn't sound like they were good at making a deal.
I think there is more to this... Don't know what it is, maybe something like time release cyanide or remote tracking chips in their foreheads.
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Burpelson said:

Only thing left to bomb is the rubble.
Make the rubble into sand then.
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