Im Gipper said:

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You buy on an app, then they send you the numbers.

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Sounds like the fault of the buyer for being such a sucker to me.

They probably think computer gambling is never manipulated, either, huh?

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Im Gipper said:

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You buy on an app, then they send you the numbers.

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Sounds like the fault of the buyer for being such a sucker to me.

They probably think computer gambling is never manipulated, either, huh?

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Uhhh, pretty sure the buyer is very happy with their $83M win.

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Im Gipper said:

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You buy on an app, then they send you the numbers.

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Sounds like the fault of the buyer for being such a sucker to me.

They probably think computer gambling is never manipulated, either, huh?

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Yeah, any of these clowns that love gambling. I've never understood it-- The house always wins. yeah every now and then a sucker wins. If you want to gamble wouldn't want to invest ? But, you rarely see these people actually invest. You get the same high if you win and its not totally a game of chance. Some skill required !!.

Gamblers lol. What morons.

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Im Gipper said:

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You buy on an app, then they send you the numbers.

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Sounds like the fault of the buyer for being such a sucker to me.

They probably think computer gambling is never manipulated, either, huh?

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Uhhh, pretty sure the buyer is very happy with their $83M win.

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Yee pee and now do how many were disappointed in losing again for the zillionth time.

Same, I have a local.

Dan Patrick is an attention seeking tool. I am about as conservative as it gets and Dan is annoying and attacks the weirdest things.

If everything is legit then this should shake out. But investigating how Lotto works and making sure nobody is manipulating the system is in everyone's best interests, regardless of whether you support or not.

I think it's a tax on dumb people, but I'm dumb sometimes and people should be able to make dumb decisions if they want.

But gambling is ripe fruit for illicit activity. Flies to a stink. It has to be above reproach and complaining about investigation sounds just as incriminating as Dem histrionics regarding DOGE.

rigged...

$1.326 BILLION POWERBALL delayed prior to drawing and ONE winner.

Not shady at all pic.twitter.com/XC0NiUjuP7

— Matt Kim (@FreeMattKim) April 7, 2024

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Former Tx Lottery director accused of rigging some jackpots, interesting read about the shenanigans going on at the Lottery

Lawsuit accuses former Texas Lottery director of fraud, misappropriating funds | kvue.com

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For the people who are obviously commenting without reading this link or anything else on the story.

Asking again:

Why would the public care where a courier buys a winning ticket?

In the case that Patrick made a video about I see zero issues. Now the above linked story about lotto.com sounds like they were blatantly breaking the law.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Im Gipper said:

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You buy on an app, then they send you the numbers.

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Sounds like the fault of the buyer for being such a sucker to me.

They probably think computer gambling is never manipulated, either, huh?

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Uhhh, pretty sure the buyer is very happy with their $83M win.

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Yee pee and now do how many were disappointed in losing again for the zillionth time.

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What does this have to do with the subject of the thread? I swear some of y'all just have completely different conversations on here.

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Seems like Goeb has run out of things to do.

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I'm surprised he stopped thinking about children's' genitals long enough to be concerned about this.

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From ChatGPT:

Yes, that seems to be one of the concerns. Since the store that sold the ticket and the courier service that bought it are both owned by Jackpocket (a subsidiary of DraftKings), there's speculation about a potential conflict of interest or even fraud.

Possible Concerns:
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Was the winning ticket legitimately purchased by a customer?

• If a customer bought the ticket but the business somehow claimed it as their own, that would be a huge scandal.

Did the business "buy back" a winning ticket?

• If a legitimate customer unknowingly won but never checked their ticket, the store could have kept it and "claimed" it themselves.

Did the courier service manipulate the system?

• Since Jackpocket operates as both a courier and a retailer, some worry they could control how tickets are distributed or sold, potentially giving themselves an unfair advantage.

Was there insider knowledge?

• Some suspect that if the store or courier service had any way of knowing which ticket was a winner, they could have secretly kept it instead of handing it to a real customer.
  

[/ol]This is likely why Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick and the Attorney General's office are investigatingif there's any foul play, it could undermine trust in the entire Texas Lottery system.

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Thanks.

This is an ingenious scam if true. If the audit trail is not there to prove innocence, we should assume guilt, and shut it down, whether we can prove it or not, just because the audit trail sucks.

Just another example of why we need paper ballots on voting day. I want the Texas Rangers to look into this, and publicize the fraud if it happened, just for that narrative alone.

What's the scam? Unless the winner of the ticket somehow had ties and was tipped off to it via Jackpocket, then it's just a story about a company wisely using vertical integration in the world of lottery ticket purchasing.

And why would Jackpocket (DraftKings) risk that? They have literally everything to lose by rigging something, and not just in Texas. $83M is nowhere near enough to do that.

Also, for this to be a scam, then the Texas Lottery would have to be in cahoots with them.

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But gambling is ripe fruit for illicit activity.

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Have you checked out 'government' yet?

The issue with the lottery is that a lottery ticket is sort of like a bearer bond.

Whoever holds the ticket gets to claim it.

The ticket cannot be cashed in until it is signed.

So a customer could potentially buy a ticket through the app. The app courier purchases their physical ticket, then a switch happens and the courier gets to claim the prize.

I imagine that they could potentially skim millions of dollars a year because people who buy tickets don't really pay attention to the smaller 5-20 dollar prize amounts and the courier could skim those and claim those winnings without anyone really noticing.

Because whoever bears and signs the ticket owns it, there is a huge potential for malfeasance and fights over ticket ownership. Hell you see in the news all the time about coworkers who pooled money for tickets, win a big prize and then someone sues the group because they didn't get their cut.

Scaling that kind of situation where someone is holding a ticket on behalf of someone else is an arrangement where all sorts of things can go wrong.

Additionally if a person is paying the courier a convenience fee amd that courier is ALSO a store that has been licensed to sell the tickets the courier is getting paid both by lottery ticket purchasers as well as their commission from purchasing a ticket on behalf of the customer.

That is sketchy as well.

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But gambling is ripe fruit for illicit activity.

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Have you checked out 'government' yet?

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They're just as bad, don't get me wrong.

The ownership of the ticket definitely feels complicated but not sure why the state cares. That's a dispute between the buyer and courier unless it's a way not to pay out.

You also wonder if the courier never thought they'd win big and it would be easy money on both sides.

Scam?

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The issue with the lottery is that a lottery ticket is sort of like a bearer bond.

Whoever holds the ticket gets to claim it.

The ticket cannot be cashed in until it is signed.

So a customer could potentially buy a ticket through the app. The app courier purchases their physical ticket, then a switch happens and the courier gets to claim the prize.

I imagine that they could potentially skim millions of dollars a year because people who buy tickets don't really pay attention to the smaller 5-20 dollar prize amounts and the courier could skim those and claim those winnings without anyone really noticing.

Because whoever bears and signs the ticket owns it, there is a huge potential for malfeasance and fights over ticket ownership. Hell you see in the news all the time about coworkers who pooled money for tickets, win a big prize and then someone sues the group because they didn't get their cut.

Scaling that kind of situation where someone is holding a ticket on behalf of someone else is an arrangement where all sorts of things can go wrong.

Additionally if a person is paying the courier a convenience fee amd that courier is ALSO a store that has been licensed to sell the tickets the courier is getting paid both by lottery ticket purchasers as well as their commission from purchasing a ticket on behalf of the customer.

That is sketchy as well.

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The issue here is the ability of one individual to buy up every single possible number combination to guarantee a jackpot win. That's what happened in 2023. The winner made over $50 million. The tickets were all printed out by a business in the DFW area that is just a front to print high volumes of tickets by multiples of lottery ticket machines. There's only 25 million possible combinations, so if the jackpot reaches higher than 25.4 million, anybody with the right amount of cash can potentially score a jackpot win by buying every single ticket from one of these 'couriers'. The game is supposed to eliminate that possibility by requiring the tickets can only be sold in a retailer that has lotto as just one of many things they sell. It's literally logistically impossible for one person to go into a retailer and buy up every single number combination, but not if you use one of these services. Letting 'courier' services operate is a very slippery slope. The one Dan Patrick visited had a whole bunch of ticket machines in the back behind closed doors. That should not be allowed.

The business that sold the winner in 2023 was just a big empty warehouse with 30-50 ticket machines.

What many people don't think about is if you bought every single possible outcome, you'd also win a tremendous amount of cash on the 3 of 6, 4 of 6 and 5 of 6 tickets too.

The guy who recently retired as commissioner or executive director, whatever his title was is likely dirty as hell.

The state just hasn't done enough to keep the cheat from happening.

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The issue here is the ability of one individual to buy up every single possible number combination to guarantee a jackpot win.

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This is not the issue at all as a person with enough money could buy all the number with ot without Jackpocket.

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The issue here is the ability of one individual to buy up every single possible number combination to guarantee a jackpot win.

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This is not the issue at all as a person with enough money could buy all the number with ot without Jackpocket.

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Jackpocket basically faked a retail store (selling games) in order to get a license to sell tickets to themselves. They have a huge advantage in volume, and will benefit by winning the store's portion - millions in payoffs at some point.

Seems like an obvious scam to me. Giving the store a portion of the payoff was not intended to foster a business that does nothing but sell a huge volume of lotto tickets. That situation needs to be rectified at a minimum. Whether there is some other advantage they have developed is probably worth investigating also.

Punish ingenuity!

Great idea AOC!

It's his job to be confident in what he's defending.

I'm still pissed from when I learned that McDonalds Monopoly was rigged big time by an insider.