WolfCall said:

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Glad to see that a deal on the minerals seems to be working out.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html

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Zelensky surrenders to Trump and 'will sign mineral deal within hours'
By STEPHEN M. LEPORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Published: 18:12 EST, 21 February 2025 | Updated: 18:43 EST, 21 February 2025

Donald Trump appears to have won his trade standoff with Volodymyr Zelensky, as the Ukrainian president is set to give in and sign a deal giving the U.S. access to deposits of critical minerals.

The deal was seen as crucial for satisfying Washington's demands for a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia to end their three-year long war.

It's a staggering surrender from Zelensky, who had said just days earlier: 'I defend Ukraine, I can't sell our country.'

Zelensky said on Friday that officials from his country and the U.S. were working on concluding an economic deal to ensure that the accord worked and was fair to Kyiv.

'We're signing an agreement, hopefully in the next fairly short period of time,' Trump told reporters in the Oval Office when asked about a deal for Ukraine's minerals.

The Wall Street Journal later cited several people familiar with the matter that the deal is close and will be signed within hours.

It comes following word that Zelensky angered Trump so much during negotiations that Trump threatened to completely pull US funding from Ukraine, Axios reported.

On Wednesday Zelensky rejected the demand for a share of its rare earth minerals -critical for cellphone production and a host of clean technologies.

That triggered a brutal war of words between the two leaders but an improved offer has reportedly been made to Kyiv. ......

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More winning

PA24 said:

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So….Russia keeps what they took from Ukraine and the US will protect what is left of Ukraine for first right of refusal of discounted minerals?

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If that is so, it possibly works. That just might produce a lasting equilibrium. Especially if those minerals become part of a lasting interest by us. Very interesting.

Sq 17 said:

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I am curious if Putin is ok with this permanent mining operations by American interests is similar to having American boots on the ground

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Digging machines are not much sudden military threat the way a detachment of troops and tanks would be. We will see.

titan said:

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Sq 17 said:

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I am curious if Putin is ok with this permanent mining operations by American interests is similar to having American boots on the ground

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Digging machines are not much sudden military threat the way a detachment of troops and tanks would be. We will see.

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They are an implied threat.

cupcakesprinkles said:

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How embarrassing for the Biden admin. He had years to do this but all he did was send them over a quarter of a trillion dollars.

President Trump is in the office less than two months and already does this. Amazing.

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If Biden hadn't slow rolled everything then he could have established economic commitments for rapid aid which would allow Ukraine to repel much of Russia's advancement in the east during the first couple of years. Biden and Blinken were boobs.

It's wild how many things Trump is handling at once, and fast. This is not the normal government way. Love it.

UKRAINE: French police say Zelensky’s defense ministry official stole $46M not the reported $40M, buying a Villa in France for $2,500,000, a vinyard for $6,500,000 and 27 land plots for $1,000,000. How many billions were looted by Zelensky’s other associates?

h/t @BowesChay pic.twitter.com/LB4rhuHwq8

— @amuse (@amuse) February 21, 2025

Sq 17 said:

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I am curious if Putin is ok with this permanent mining operations by American interests is similar to having American boots on the ground

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They don't like it. Lavrov mentioned the other day that Russia doesn't feel like we should profit at all from the war.

Buck Turgidson said:

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Well now a future attack by Russia would be an attack on US economic interests. They might think twice before starting the next fight.

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I saw Rubio say that earlier today. This was done so that American interest is tied to Ukrainian security.

Not sure I really agree with doing this, but it was much more than just a simple mineral grab for payback.

Logos Stick said:

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Buck Turgidson said:

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Well now a future attack by Russia would be an attack on US economic interests. They might think twice before starting the next fight.

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I saw Rubio say that earlier today. This was done so that American interest is tied to Ukrainian security.

Not sure I really agree with doing this, but it was much more than just a simple mineral grab for payback.

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I have to give Trump credit. It appears he's really going to push for a deal that both sides will lose something and gain something.

Now he needs to go after Kazakhstan for their potassium. I hear tell that all other nations have inferior potassium.

captkirk said:

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UKRAINE: French police say Zelensky’s defense ministry official stole $46M not the reported $40M, buying a Villa in France for $2,500,000, a vinyard for $6,500,000 and 27 land plots for $1,000,000. How many billions were looted by Zelensky’s other associates?

h/t @BowesChay pic.twitter.com/LB4rhuHwq8

— @amuse (@amuse) February 21, 2025

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I have zero doubt that there are Ukrainian generals and other leaders that act just like the Russians do. But I still feel like Zelenskyy is a bit different. He doesn't control everything that goes on. In fact probably less as time has gone on.

I'm glad that war is ending and the Ukrainian army should be proud of stopping Russia and saving Kiev and therefore Ukraine. Hell of a fight that could not go on forever. Ukraine has a tough army.

We could probably just offer them Pamela Anderson

Teslag said:

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We could probably just offer them Pamela Anderson

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Prefer Bart Griner

Danny Vermin said:

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Trump owns everybody.

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Most powerful person in world history. I actually mean that. Everyone is bending the knee with the exception of corrupt Democrats and some idiot Middle Eastern countries.

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samurai_science said:

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Time to strip mine

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Rare earths are most widely mined by solvent extraction.

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YOU MEAN JUST LIKE FRACKING?!!!

OH NOOOOOOOOES!!!!

captkirk said:

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UKRAINE: French police say Zelensky’s defense ministry official stole $46M not the reported $40M, buying a Villa in France for $2,500,000, a vinyard for $6,500,000 and 27 land plots for $1,000,000. How many billions were looted by Zelensky’s other associates?

h/t @BowesChay pic.twitter.com/LB4rhuHwq8

— @amuse (@amuse) February 21, 2025

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If we can prove this, then we need to take the properties and anything that money bought.

That's not what we gave them the money for.

Anything that money went to other than defending Ukraine is ours.

Buck Turgidson said:

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Well now a future attack by Russia would be an attack on US economic interests. They might think twice before starting the next fight.

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This is not a coincidence.

No NATO, but yes FAFO.

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captkirk said:

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UKRAINE: French police say Zelensky’s defense ministry official stole $46M not the reported $40M, buying a Villa in France for $2,500,000, a vinyard for $6,500,000 and 27 land plots for $1,000,000. How many billions were looted by Zelensky’s other associates?

h/t @BowesChay pic.twitter.com/LB4rhuHwq8

— @amuse (@amuse) February 21, 2025

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If we can prove this, then we need to take the properties and anything that money bought.

That's not what we gave them the money for.

Anything that money went to other than defending Ukraine is ours.

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There's a reason the tweet doesn't link to the article, tell where it's from, or provide additional context.

Ukraine paid for the munitions but the Ukrainian military never received them. It wasn't us that got screwed by Ukrainian corruption, it was them. And the guy has been caught and is being prosecuted in Ukraine. It's referenced in another thread where this is posted.

I guess this is how it works. Just wish we would just pull out completely in Ukraine. Clean gone. No mineral rights. We shouldn't be there anymore.

Poor Mr. Bean. Punked by the not-Uniparty.

So, we (Trump) can name that region "AmerUkraine". Why not, we get the mineral rights, no?

If we have mineral rights to Ukraine and they end up being vitally important….may be easy justification for us to make sure those resources are protected and safe.

…..you can see where this could end up at.

If one listens to Rubio's comments that is exactly his position. Unfortunately, it's mostly an empty 'right' though, as the rare earth minerals are largely a myth, despite the scientifically illiterate/uncurious press articles about them based on Ukrainian lies as to their entirely unproven reserves. A maximum of $3 billion a year is…not really worth going after.

It's good to see Boeing will be able to sell parts/buy titanium again from Russia, though.

Cool, what do I get out of it? American citizens that paid for it getting checks?

Dude can negotiate! He'll get no credit for it in the MSM, but he gets **** done.

Fishing Fools said:

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Drump the Liberal !!!

Sincerely,

A Textbook Conservative

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People should have realized that Trump himself doesn't embrace the traditional ideas of conservative vs liberal.

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"People say, 'you're conservative,' I'm not conservative, you know what I am, I'm a man of common sense and a lot of conservative policies are common sense," Trump said while appearing on CNBC's Squawk Box.

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Those labels should be retired. Liberals certainly on liberal when they call for daddy government to control you.

I pretend DEM now stands for Deviant Elitist Masochists and it works better for me.

FCBlitz said:

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If we have mineral rights to Ukraine and they end up being vitally important….may be easy justification for us to make sure those resources are protected and safe.

…..you can see where this could end up at.

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Exactly. To what end? The NEOCON is so damn inbred that even Trump Can't be a free agent.

Old Sarge said:

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So, we (Trump) can name that region "AmerUkraine". Why not, we get the mineral rights, no?

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Mineral company is now Kramerica Industries

nortex97 said:

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If one listens to Rubio's comments that is exactly his position. Unfortunately, it's mostly an empty 'right' though, as the rare earth minerals are largely a myth, despite the scientifically illiterate/uncurious press articles about them based on Ukrainian lies as to their entirely unproven reserves. A maximum of $3 billion a year is…not really worth going after.

It's good to see Boeing will be able to sell parts/buy titanium again from Russia, though.

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Anyone with a brain realizes if these rare minerals were that abundant, Ukraine would not have been the poorest country in Eastern Europe.

War is over, Ukraine lost.

The Z main is complaining.

🚫🇺🇦🇺🇸 Zelensky is not ready to accept a minerals deal with the US as Ukraine sees a "number of problematic issues" with the draft agreement, - Sky News

"Today, the drafts do not reflect a partnership in the agreement and contain only unilateral commitments by Ukraine." pic.twitter.com/0ic4AWeVYc

— MAKS 24 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) February 22, 2025

And just like that we have a real interest in Ukraine stopping Russia on the battlefield beyond a generally weakened Russia.

I don't know why people still doubt who this man is or how he works in making deals. The book has been around for over 30 years. More winning.