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GisselMcDonald
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Yes, you can't change your DNA. This is actual S-C-I-E-N-C-E.

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It's so freaking crazy that we live in this day and age where this has to be said.

Even 10 years ago, I don't think I could see something like this.
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I hate that this is a political issue.

There are rare cases of people who do have gender issues. The proud transgenders of lgtbq have hijacked this and are legitimately unwell in their mind.
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Trans lunacy will never end, but at least it will return to the back burner.
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The only positive thing it did was contribute to Trump's victory.

The Kamala trans ad will go down in history as one of the most pivotal of a political campaign. It was perfect. I guarantee the splicing in of Charlamagne's disgust over Kamala's desire for tax-payer funded surgeries for trans inmates gave Trump a HUGE bump with black men.

That was the proverbial "final straw" for many of them to either switch their vote for Trump or vote for Trump instead of sitting on the sidelines.
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Look at you all putting on airs like you're a bunch of biologists

But still... I can't help but feel like I've heard this before...
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agent-maroon said:

Look at you all putting on airs like you're a bunch of biologists

But still... I can't help but feel like I've heard this before...
Yes, Mr Rogers told us this 40+ years ago...



This would be censored for hate speech if Musk hadn't bought Twitter and Kamala won....
DarkBrandon01
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What happens when your body decides to not develop in accordance to your DNA? Such is the case of androgen insensitivity where people with XY chromosomes are unable to develop male physical characteristics, and appear female . What gender are they?

DNA can't be the end all be all for gender. Male and females have different brain structures. What happens when the structure of your brain is opposite of your chromosomes? That's a man brain trapped in a woman's body or a woman's brain trapped in a male body.

No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.
Waffledynamics
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Based as ****.
BadMoonRisin
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No one cares.
coolerguy12
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It is delusion. If you want to live that way knock yourself out, but don't ask demand I go along with your delusion.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

What happens when your body decides to not develop in accordance to your DNA? Such is the case of androgen insensitivity where people with XY chromosomes are unable to develop male physical characteristics, and appear female . What gender are they?

DNA can't be the end all be all for gender. Male and females have different brain structures. What happens when the structure of your brain is opposite of your chromosomes? That's a man brain trapped in a woman's body or a woman's brain trapped in a male body.

No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


Now do the other 99.9999% of the dudes in a skirt.
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Sounds like someone above is having an issue with Trusting the Science



Here is some advice from your hero...



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DarkBrandon01 said:

What happens when your body decides to not develop in accordance to your DNA? Such is the case of androgen insensitivity where people with XY chromosomes are unable to develop male physical characteristics, and appear female . What gender are they?

DNA can't be the end all be all for gender. Male and females have different brain structures. What happens when the structure of your brain is opposite of your chromosomes? That's a man brain trapped in a woman's body or a woman's brain trapped in a male body.

No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.
Quit comparing rare, but diagnosable medical/genetic conditions to someone who simply decides he or she "feels like" the opposite sex. They are not the same thing and it is a disservice to people who suffer from those actual conditions to be lumped into a group of mentally ill individuals.

One is something no one wanted or asked for.

The other is a mental illness.
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You don't run or shape a culture around its outliers anyway.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Look who thinks it's a biologist...
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DarkBrandon01 said:

What happens when your body decides to not develop in accordance to your DNA? Such is the case of androgen insensitivity where people with XY chromosomes are unable to develop male physical characteristics, and appear female . What gender are they?

DNA can't be the end all be all for gender. Male and females have different brain structures. What happens when the structure of your brain is opposite of your chromosomes? That's a man brain trapped in a woman's body or a woman's brain trapped in a male body.

No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


One, I don't care how someone lives, just don't tell me that I should treat it as a normal. Two, what you just described is the equivalent of the rarest form of cancer as the reason why this is totally normal.
LOYAL AG
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Guys, Brandon ain't responding to any of you so don't bother responding to him. He's the definition of a troll and should be treated accordingly.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
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LOYAL AG said:

Guys, Brandon ain't responding to any of you so don't bother responding to him. He's the definition of a troll and should be treated accordingly.


His responses to every post remind me of that gif of that guy/girl crying and saying, "why won't they live Britney alone!!!"
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Waiting for a woke judge to overturn this and claim that men can indeed become women. #herchoice
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I just associate tranni*s with Bigfoot. Awkward, weird freaks. The problem is, the subset of people who support, celebrate and uplift the bigfoots. What a sad world we live in where this is accepted.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Let people live the way they want to live.
this account is so off the wall insane, this has to be trolling right?

Surely this internet persona isn't idiotic enough to miss the irony in this statement.
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Human beings have known this to be a universal truth for millennia until the left broke through into the culture.
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coolerguy12 said:

It is delusion. If you want to live that way knock yourself out, but don't ask demand I go along with your delusion.


If your definition of gender is based on chromosomes, and trans people don't claim have different chromosomes, then they are not delusional. They are not denying any objective observable reality.

When conservatives and liberals talk about gender, they are talking about different things, which is why this argument is pointless. It's just semantics. If we can't agree on definitions, accusations of delusion are meaningless.
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DarkBrandon01 said:



No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


You literally gave an example of delusion in attempting to define something as not delusional.

Besides that… there may be cases of " androgen sensitivity ". There are also people born with 6 fingers; some with sensitivity to lactose, etc.

None of these other biological aberrations are getting an entire political movement behind it and federal statues reconfigured to suit them.

If I'm born with 6 fingers, but inside I just " know" I only have 5, or vice versa, then it's up to me ( not everyone else on the planet to create a safe space for me) to deal with this psychological issue.

DarkBrandon01
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Mega Lops said:

DarkBrandon01 said:

Let people live the way they want to live.
this account is so off the wall insane, this has to be trolling right?

Surely this internet persona isn't idiotic enough to miss the irony in this statement.


I'm 100% not trolling. I only lurk this forum see what conservatives are up to and i'll occasionally interject my own opinions to try to understand people's beliefs.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Let people live the way they want to live.
Agree. My 14 year old daughter wants to chill in her locker room without looking at a male dick before playing volleyball against biological females. That is how she wants to live.

Y'all went way too far on this issue and you know it. I know you are uncomfortable with flamboyant cross dressers going to children's libraries but you can't quite figure out how to say it for fear of your friends labeling you a bigot.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

What happens when your body decides to not develop in accordance to your DNA? Such is the case of androgen insensitivity where people with XY chromosomes are unable to develop male physical characteristics, and appear female . What gender are they?

DNA can't be the end all be all for gender. Male and females have different brain structures. What happens when the structure of your brain is opposite of your chromosomes? That's a man brain trapped in a woman's body or a woman's brain trapped in a male body.

No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.
Fine. I don't judge. However, I'm not ****ing paying for it.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

What happens when your body decides to not develop in accordance to your DNA? Such is the case of androgen insensitivity where people with XY chromosomes are unable to develop male physical characteristics, and appear female . What gender are they?

DNA can't be the end all be all for gender. Male and females have different brain structures. What happens when the structure of your brain is opposite of your chromosomes? That's a man brain trapped in a woman's body or a woman's brain trapped in a male body.

No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


We remove the brain and study it, then outlaw tofu, or veganism, or whatever caused it.
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When conservatives and liberals talk about gender, they are talking about different things, which is why this argument is pointless. It's just semantics. If we can't agree on definitions, accusations of delusion are meaningless.
Agreement isn't possible when liberals keep making crap up. Which, if you could be honest, is the whole point of these idiotic neologistic exercises y'all keep coming at us with.
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fixer said:

DarkBrandon01 said:



No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


You literally gave an example of delusion in attempting to define something as not delusional.

Besides that… there may be cases of " androgen sensitivity ". There are also people born with 6 fingers; some with sensitivity to lactose, etc.

None of these other biological aberrations are getting an entire political movement behind it and federal statues reconfigured to suit them.

If I'm born with 6 fingers, but inside I just " know" I only have 5, or vice versa, then it's up to me ( not everyone else on the planet to create a safe space for me) to deal with this psychological issue.




This analogy would make sense if gender was merely a physical phenomenon. It is psychological as well. This is a fact.

Trans people are not asking others to deny reality with them. They are just asking that people to accept the reality of their own mind.

Since we probably won't agree about the definition, forget about gender for a minute. Lets just use masculinity and femininity. If someone appears masculine on the outside, but then claims to have a feminine personality (and they are not lying), then it is a FACT that they have a feminine personality.

If you then try to claim that they are delusional for having a feminine personality, this would not make sense. Personality is a subjective experience. To be delusional about something, you have to deny objective facts. You can't be delusional about something that is subjective.

If your favorite pizza flavor is pineapple, that may seem like an odd opinion, but no matter how odd this opinion is, it cannot be a delusional opinion because it is subjective. In the same sense, the psychological aspect of gender is subjective. One cannot be delusional about their own gender experience. Psychology is subjective, biology is objective.

You can think trans people are icky/gross all you want. But it is not logically correct to call them delusional.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

fixer said:

DarkBrandon01 said:



No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


You literally gave an example of delusion in attempting to define something as not delusional.

Besides that… there may be cases of " androgen sensitivity ". There are also people born with 6 fingers; some with sensitivity to lactose, etc.

None of these other biological aberrations are getting an entire political movement behind it and federal statues reconfigured to suit them.

If I'm born with 6 fingers, but inside I just " know" I only have 5, or vice versa, then it's up to me ( not everyone else on the planet to create a safe space for me) to deal with this psychological issue.




This analogy would make sense if gender was merely a physical phenomenon. It is psychological as well. This is a fact.

Trans people are not asking others to deny reality with them. They are just asking that people to accept the reality of their own mind.

Since we probably won't agree about the definition, forget about gender for a minute. Lets just use masculinity and femininity. If someone appears masculine on the outside, but then claims to have a feminine personality (and they are not lying), then it is a FACT that they have a feminine personality.

If you then try to claim that they are delusional for having a feminine personality, this would not make sense. Personality is a subjective experience. To be delusional about something, you have to deny objective facts. You can't be delusional about something that is subjective.

If your favorite pizza flavor is pineapple, that may seem like an odd opinion, but no matter how odd this opinion is, it cannot be a delusional opinion because it is subjective. In the same sense, the psychological aspect of gender is subjective. One cannot be delusional about their own gender experience. Psychology is subjective, biology is objective.

You can think trans people are icky/gross all you want. But it is not logically correct to call them delusional.


"Accept the reality of their own mind."

Do you realize how incredibly stupid that sounds?
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They are just asking that people to accept the reality of their own mind.


Yeah. This is where I have a problem. I'm not going to accept someone's delusions. If I think I'm a cat and in my mind I truly believe I'm a cat, that means I'm delusional, not a cat.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

fixer said:

DarkBrandon01 said:



No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


You literally gave an example of delusion in attempting to define something as not delusional.

Besides that… there may be cases of " androgen sensitivity ". There are also people born with 6 fingers; some with sensitivity to lactose, etc.

None of these other biological aberrations are getting an entire political movement behind it and federal statues reconfigured to suit them.

If I'm born with 6 fingers, but inside I just " know" I only have 5, or vice versa, then it's up to me ( not everyone else on the planet to create a safe space for me) to deal with this psychological issue.




This analogy would make sense if gender was merely a physical phenomenon. It is psychological as well. This is a fact.

Trans people are not asking others to deny reality with them. They are just asking that people to accept the reality of their own mind.

Since we probably won't agree about the definition, forget about gender for a minute. Lets just use masculinity and femininity. If someone appears masculine on the outside, but then claims to have a feminine personality (and they are not lying), then it is a FACT that they have a feminine personality.

If you then try to claim that they are delusional for having a feminine personality, this would not make sense. Personality is a subjective experience. To be delusional about something, you have to deny objective facts. You can't be delusional about something that is subjective.

If your favorite pizza flavor is pineapple, that may seem like an odd opinion, but no matter how odd this opinion is, it cannot be a delusional opinion because it is subjective. In the same sense, the psychological aspect of gender is subjective. One cannot be delusional about their own gender experience. Psychology is subjective, biology is objective.

You can think trans people are icky/gross all you want. But it is not logically correct to call them delusional.


Great. Now do furries.

ETA: dang, beat by a cooler guy by 3 minutes.

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DarkBrandon01 said:

fixer said:

DarkBrandon01 said:



No transgender person is claiming their DNA can be changed. Psychologically, they are the gender opposite of their body. This is not delusion, it's just the way they were born. This should be common sense. End of story. Let people live the way they want to live.


You literally gave an example of delusion in attempting to define something as not delusional.

Besides that… there may be cases of " androgen sensitivity ". There are also people born with 6 fingers; some with sensitivity to lactose, etc.

None of these other biological aberrations are getting an entire political movement behind it and federal statues reconfigured to suit them.

If I'm born with 6 fingers, but inside I just " know" I only have 5, or vice versa, then it's up to me ( not everyone else on the planet to create a safe space for me) to deal with this psychological issue.




This analogy would make sense if gender was merely a physical phenomenon. It is psychological as well. This is a fact.

Trans people are not asking others to deny reality with them. They are just asking that people to accept the reality of their own mind.

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This is how clinical grade psychopaths think.

By forcing me to accept the reality of someone's mind, as you say, then I am forced to abandon objective reality.

Therefore trans movement is in fact expecting me to deny reality.

I can't deny that a person may believe , to the marrow of their existence, that they are the opposite sex/gender etc.

But that literally can not make it so.

If it did, then I can identify as anything I wish.

A cow.
A dollar bill.
The president
Etc…

Logically speaking this can't be anything but delusional.

Past this…. Then we are able to invent whole new subjective realities where 1+1 is 3.

This argument will go down a path of post modernist rationalism vs skepticism.

There may be an infinite number of ways to interpret the world. But only small sub set of those ways are useful to human success.
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