Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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AgBQ-00 said:

Honest question...could any of you leave your kid to hear the sentencing on their own and not be in the courtroom with them?

Hell, i can't leave my dog when it is time to put them down. No way could I leave one of my kids to face something like that completely alone.
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I know someone who went to jail from 1990-2024, so also 35 years. Before he went into jail, he would have been considered a bright person, or at the very least intelligent enough to make it in business.

If you met him for the first time today, not knowing any backstory, you would probably consider him to be a dumb or at least not-too-bright individual. He struggles with technology that your 5 year-old can use comfortably. If you bring up a historical or cultural reference he will have no idea what you're talking about. He can't relate to pretty much anything said in group conversation, so he spends a lot of the time quiet. He's a weirdo.

In addition to what he doesn't know, he has 35 years of institutionalized socialization which has replaced whatever personality and general way of going about life he had before, which can make just co-existing with other humans non-awkwardly a struggle. Plus a ton of random prison habits like knocking on the table when you're done eating. He's a weirdo.

What I'm trying to say is, if you're trying to comprehend his sentence as just deleting years from your life, you're missing the bigger point. Whenever you get out, you will enter a world and culture that is foreign to you, your support network outside of possibly mama will be non-existent (but she will probably be dead), and you have a high likelihood of not being able to become a human in the new society, and will eventually become another homeless dude.

Not trying to say any of this is equivalent to someone losing a life, or that his sentence is "justice", but thinking he's going to pop out and hit the ground running and live the good life is really downplaying the reality of the situation. His life may not be "over" in the death row sense, but it is very much ruined. A half life is what awaits him when he gets out.
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Backyard Gator said:

GaryClare said:

AgBQ-00 said:

Honest question...could any of you leave your kid to hear the sentencing on their own and not be in the courtroom with them?

I do not understand that decision at all. But as I reflect on this whole situation, it is hard to judge both families on any of their actions. It is unimaginable what both families have been through mentally and emotionally the past year and you wonder if either of them could be at their best relative to decisions.

But what strikes me as really strange, or perhaps telling, is I would have thought KA's parents would have the decency to look over at the Metcalf's and publicly apologize. I wouldn't have expected to be forgiven by the Metcalf's. But could they have at least said, "I am sorry"? I just can't help but think that would have gone a long way.

In a sense that shows what underlies this whole story with the Anthony's. Their son is still the victim. He literally killed a person and it appears they still think they are the victims. And that disposition is a big part of why KA is in this situation right now and meeting these consequences.

Metcalfs, Anthonys

It is honestly alarming how many college graduates don't know the difference between possessive and plural when posting on here.

It's embarrassing
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P.H. Dexippus said:









"Not all people who commit crimes are criminals."

Jasmine ****forbrains Crockett.
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Could just be autocorrecting to possessive. Don't judge so quickly
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duck79 said:

There is video of Austin's brother and some family leaving last night. They were followed to their car with people screaming "I'm glad Austin's dead" and "Why won't you admit Austin was a bully!". There is also video of KA's mom leaving in a car and holding her hands into a heart and screaming "Racial Bias!"

All of that crap is sickening. Where is the accountability for bringing a knife to a track meet and saying "Touch me and see what happens". The victim mentality has got to stop and that comes directly from strong parenting.

This right here shows how powerful getting the first narrative out can be, no matter how much of a lie it is.

People are stupid and once they hear something they grasp onto it without the ability to even accept that additional information may contradict whatever it is they heard.

Think about all of the major media trials - Floyd, Rittenhouse, Zimmerman, etc., etc. etc. - every single one of those had an initial narrative thrown against the wall that turned out to be completely false, but very few people that grasped onto that initial storyline have any understanding that once facts came to light that storyline turned out to be pure garbage.

Of course, it would help if media outlets actually pushed factual data instead of making crap up in an effort to be the first to "break the news".
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P.H. Dexippus said:




I like how Austin saying, "I'm not going to fight you at a track meet" has morphed into "he's 300 lbs and beating on him".

Crockett is so stupid, she doesn't understand that as a WOMAN (which Dems are incapable of identifying), she would have a case for self-defense if a man attacking her was her exact height and weight. We don't even need to touch on her lack of knowledge of football.
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GaryClare said:

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On 740, did I hear KA could get out in 17.5 years? Surely, that is not correct?


Technically yes, but by far the most likely outcome is he isn't out before 25 years. Even that is only if he changes who he is in prison. If he keeps the same outlook and attitude he does now, he'll probably end up serving all 35.


Too lenient either way. To me this easily fit the case of lock the door and throw away the key for life

I share your disposition. But I think what the jury considered is that he was 17 at the time. If he would have been in his upper 20's or older, I think he might have gotten the key thrown away.

His life is ruined regardless of the sentence. If everything goes perfect he's not getting out until he is an older adult. He won't get able to get a good job, he won't have his prime earning years to build a financial base, he likely will never be in a position to have a family, a home or a decent life - even after he gets out.

I understand Metcalf gets none of these considerations. But as humans so completely dependent of God's grace, it crosses my mind that it might be good that he was given some grace. As much I as I was hoping for 75 years, it is hard to say the jury did not make a wise decision.

I'm curious, Gary, did you see individuals in your experience that were borderline violent personality? Ones that you just decided you would refrain from interacting with because of the obvious short fuse?

And if so, how did the coaching staff deal with these individuals?
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schmellba99 said:

duck79 said:

There is video of Austin's brother and some family leaving last night. They were followed to their car with people screaming "I'm glad Austin's dead" and "Why won't you admit Austin was a bully!". There is also video of KA's mom leaving in a car and holding her hands into a heart and screaming "Racial Bias!"

All of that crap is sickening. Where is the accountability for bringing a knife to a track meet and saying "Touch me and see what happens". The victim mentality has got to stop and that comes directly from strong parenting.

This right here shows how powerful getting the first narrative out can be, no matter how much of a lie it is.

People are stupid and once they hear something they grasp onto it without the ability to even accept that additional information may contradict whatever it is they heard.

Think about all of the major media trials - Floyd, Rittenhouse, Zimmerman, etc., etc. etc. - every single one of those had an initial narrative thrown against the wall that turned out to be completely false, but very few people that grasped onto that initial storyline have any understanding that once facts came to light that storyline turned out to be pure garbage.

Of course, it would help if media outlets actually pushed factual data instead of making crap up in an effort to be the first to "break the news".

Matt Walsh had a tweet alluding to the same this morning except he extrapolated it to include the historical. How many of the civil rights era stories that we take as gospel are just hyperbolized propaganda to ensure whitey looks as evil as possible?

I'm not suggesting racism and discrimination weren't an ugly part of our past, just that these sorts of things get squeezed for maximum effect.


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91AggieLawyer said:

AGpops1923 said:

Does the Metcalf family sue in civil court? I'd pursue a healthy judgment against the parents and the thug. Hamstring his ass for the rest of his life and make his parents give up that free money they stole from the defense fund.


They would have a (potential) statutory cause of action under the family code (against the parents), but that limits itself to property damage claims only. They'd have to allege and prove general common law negligence on the part of the parents, but the caselaw I've seen would make that difficult. What they CAN do is, either through filing suit or pre-suit discovery, depose the parents and discover what the hell is going on with the so-called legal fund.

Obviously, the wrongful death claim against KA is all but open and shut, liability wise.

If the parents had a blanket liability homeowners (or renters) policy, that may also cover KA and torts he may have committed. This came into play with the Aggie Bonfire collapse with respect to Redpots and their parents' homeowners/liability policy. I don't recall how all that shaked out.

Interesting. I was wondering this as well, esp. reading the statement by Jeff Metcalf about the rage. So next step, financially ruin the parents/family?

I couldn't find on google if KA live with his biological parents, or mom/step-dad, etc. but was wondering if they have/had financial resources.

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ShaggySLC said:

Insufferable people, how is that not harassment?



While I hate this for the family and agree its utterly despicable, the more people that see this the better just to show the depths of depravity that these people are willing to sink to. They are not winning anyone to their cause with these type tactics and just further increasing the black fatigue amongst the normal populace.

On the other video with ratchet Jazz, she's a complete and utter caricature and supreme idiot trying to stay relevant with the race hustling crowd.
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Rep. Crockett (D) says the knife used to kill Metcalf "was not a deadly weapon"


A deadly weapon. " A deadly weapon is an object, instrument, substance, or device which is intended to be used in a way that is likely to cause death, or with which death can be easily and readily produced."

Dumb as a bag of rocks. Sorry to offend the rocks.
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I think they have other kids, at least it appears so from social media pictures. They've probably given up on KA and moved on to radicalizing their other offspring.
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PathfinderGeneral said:

I think they have other kids, at least it appears so from social media pictures. They've probably given up on KA and moved on to radicalizing their other offspring.

Another sibling criminal, the KA relatives can retire and move to a better neighborhood on donated money.
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Got a Natty! said:

4stringAg said:

We see vids every day of this subculture in action. Violence, can't control their emotions or reactions, perpetual victimhood, blaming whitey or police or someone else for their circumstances, grifting, entitlement, continuing to elect bad leaders and propping up race hustlers as voices of truth. An all to eager Dem Party and media willing to cater to that nonsense and excuse it.



When I was the DA in rural west Texas, I often pondered why this segment of our society commits an inordinate number of crimes. And the statistics for this are the same in rural America as they are in Houston, Dallas, etc.

My 2 kids are now 38&36. When they were around 10&8 years old, as part of the confirmatioin process at the Methodist Church, the kids had to attend 3 different religous services. One was a service at a Jewish synagogue in Lubbock and another was a black church in the town where we lived. I had just indicted a black city council woman so I went to this service with our church to make sure my kids would be OK.

The oldest black child in the church was around 8 years old. The next black male in age to this 8 year old was a 75-80 year old black gentleman. No black male in between those ages. This spoke volumns to me. These kids have no role models to emulate, in a good way. Plus, the entitlement they have because they come from generations that have received government handouts without having to do any work. The violence has escalated since the Micheal Brown shooting in 2016. I believe that is when that occurred. Worsened with George Floyd. But for modern times, really got going with Rodney King 30+ years ago.

And I don't see any way to turn it around. When I see a black family out, with both father and mother, with well behaved children, I actually celebrate that. And that is really a sad statement. I celebrate something that should be an every day occurrence.

I don't disagree with your premise, but I don't think it provides a complete answer.

Lots of kids who don't go to church don't kill. Morals and right from wrong can be learned outside of a church building.

Plus, KA had a father, or at least a stepfather. So did Trayvon Martin.

This is a multi-factor issue that also includes low IQ, very poor future time orientation and a tribal culture built around the importance of always challenging others to earn "respect."

KA wanted to show he was a bad-ass because that's what he was taught to do by his community and culture, and he didn't have the self-control or mental capacity to walk away. So he stabbed a guy without even thinking about the long-term consequences.

The crazies protesting on his behalf are just perpetuating the culture, helping to create another generation of impulsive, quick to violence murderers.
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Definitely a multi faceted problem. My post was to emphasize no fathers in church not necessarily a lack of youth.
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People are still making, and GiveSendGo is still accepting donations.
https://www.givesendgo.com/helpkarmelo

ETA- it was literally disabled in the minute after I typed out my post. There were numerous contributions today.
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That is just breathtaking, I don't have the words to describe how awful her take is. (Thanks for posting but holy moly this lady is unreal).
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It's 100% relevant that no black men of fatherhood age are in the church. It's literally the most significant factor in whether religion sticks to a child or not. And someone who attends church regularly is exponentially less likely to live a life of crime.
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Social media enables idiots like this to make a living and annoy the hell out of rational people. A few decades ago, Crockett would actually have to quit flapping her gums and go to work to survive. It is mind numbing that there are actually people that care what this know-nothing has to say.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

People are still making, and GiveSendGo is still accepting donations.
https://www.givesendgo.com/helpkarmelo

ETA- it was literally disabled in the minute after I typed out my post. There were numerous contributions today.


Just browsing all fundraisers on that site is crazy. You can write any random story with no verification and there are people just hanging out waiting to give you money? I need to get in on this…
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To follow up on my post ... this is the reality of KA's community. This is how so many young black men think and act. Or, should I say, act without thinking.



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This kind of thing happened to me after the George Floyd incident. I was in a department store shopping for clothes. A black male walked up behind me and said he was going to kill me. He then walked on, looking back at me and out of the store. I got my carry license shortly after that.

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EclipseAg said:


Lots of kids who don't go to church don't kill. Morals and right from wrong can be learned outside of a church building.
Doesn't really seem to be working out well for America.
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Don't shop at Burlington coat factory and you won't have to worry about it anymore
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4 said:

She is such an idiot


She's actually not, which makes the whole thing even more hilarious. She went to an elite prep school, graduated college with honors and has a law degree. She's very articulate and well spoken.

Everything you see publicly today is an act. Her speech, mannerisms, everything. You can look up old footage of her if you don't believe me. She thinks acting like an idiot from the hood appeals to her base better.
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The police should have escorted the family to their car. No need to let those #@$#@ get right up in the faces of the family.
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Ag87H2O said:

P.H. Dexippus said:








Social media enables idiots like this to make a living and annoy the hell out of rational people. A few decades ago, Crockett would actually have to quit flapping her gums and go to work to survive. It is mind numbing that there are actually people that care what this know-nothing has to say.

Those need to be played on the house floor
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Ellis Wyatt said:

EclipseAg said:


Lots of kids who don't go to church don't kill. Morals and right from wrong can be learned outside of a church building.
Doesn't really seem to be working out well for America.


We don't really need to derail another thread on TexAgs for this conversation where everyone wants to write and no one wants to read do we?
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PathfinderGeneral said:

I think they have other kids, at least it appears so from social media pictures. They've probably given up on KA and moved on to radicalizing their other offspring.

A dollar to a donut we see this family in the news again for something criminal, yet unrelated to KA
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schmellba99 said:

AgBQ-00 said:

Honest question...could any of you leave your kid to hear the sentencing on their own and not be in the courtroom with them?

Hell, i can't leave my dog when it is time to put them down. No way could I leave one of my kids to face something like that completely alone.

But being this kind of parent also decreases the likelihood you would ever be in that situation.
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doubledog said:

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Rep. Crockett (D) says the knife used to kill Metcalf "was not a deadly weapon"


A deadly weapon. " A deadly weapon is an object, instrument, substance, or device which is intended to be used in a way that is likely to cause death, or with which death can be easily and readily produced."

Dumb as a bag of rocks. Sorry to offend the rocks.

a knife that was literally used to kill someone: "not a deadly weapon"

followed up with description of hands: "a deadly weapon"

she is weapons-grade stupid, followed only in stupidity by anyone that supports her.
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4 said:

PathfinderGeneral said:

I think they have other kids, at least it appears so from social media pictures. They've probably given up on KA and moved on to radicalizing their other offspring.

A dollar to a donut we see this family in the news again for something criminal, yet unrelated to KA

If I were the Metcalf's, I would report the Anthonys too the IRS and see to it that they had to account for every penny they manage to grift. They should be facing an audit every year for the rest of their rotten lives.
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I still say she is very intelligent and her statements are calculated to curry favor for the support she needs.
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I was there for 4 days of the trial. All of these black thugs that were there trying to cause havoc and chaos don't care what evidence proves what, they believe that Black people should be able to do whatever they want to white people..

And had Austin Metcalf killed Karmelo Anthony they would have called it murder and rightfully so but he didn't so their boy Karmelo got what he deserved.
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