If he would have looked at them, people would have said he was defiant.

I don't want people thinking I am defending him. I'm just saying the whole damned thing is a tragedy, and I do not take pleasure in his punishment. The process is the process, but I'm not going to rejoice in it. I'd have been better off not ever hearing either of their names.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Irrelevant. I present one study in Champaign, IL, an affluent college town, about levels of domestic violence.

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Dr. Jennifer Hardesty, a professor in the department of human development and family studies at the University of Illinois, says domestic violence knows no boundaries in terms of race, ethnicity or age.

"But there's evidence that African American families can be disproportionately impacted by intimate partner violence," Hardesty said.

The number of incidents concerning Black victims is disproportionately large since the percentage estimates of the Black population in Champaign and Urbana are only 13.8% and 16.5% respectively.

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His parents took all the money raised for his defense attorneys and spent it on their lifestyle

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Crazy how despite his family paying to the best defense attorneys in Texas, this narrative keeps popping up.

But you are right about the family overall. From the very first time we heard from them last April, they made it very clear they are ghetto.

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His parents took all the money raised for his defense attorneys and spent it on their lifestyle

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Crazy how despite his family paying to the best defense attorneys in Texas, this narrative keeps popping up.

But you are right about the family overall. From the very first time we heard from them last April, they made it very clear they are ghetto.

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His family did not pay a dime for those attorneys. Anthony was declared indigent. The Collin county taxpayers paid for Shook and Mike Howard. If you live in Plano, Allen, North Dallas, McKinney, or Frisco, his defense attorneys came out of your taxes.

you are incorrect there.

Karmelo was declared indigent because the money raised in givegosend was not "his" money.

At least one defense lawyers was brought on board before the indigent filing was done. you think he worked for free?


A poster here has even confirmed that he knows first hand the lawyers were paid through the fund.

This family is bad enough, no need to keep pushing the Facebook story about them keeping all the money for themselves

According to this report, he is going the public defender route with his appeal:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/another-lawyer-joins-karmelo-anthony-appeal-killer-claims-cannot-pay-counsel.amp

Nothing in that tweet changes or even addresses what I set out in my post.

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you are incorrect there.

Karmelo was declared indigent because the money raised in givegosend was not "his" money.

At least one defense lawyers was brought on board before the indigent filing was done. you think he worked for free?


A poster here has even confirmed that he knows first hand the lawyers were paid through the fund.

This family is bad enough, no need to keep pushing the Facebook story about them keeping all the money for themselves

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For argument sake, let's say they spent 200K on lawyers. They still put over half a million in their pockets. I bet if somebody offered them 500K to lock away their son for 35 years they would've taken that all day long without a crime being committed

Interesting. Things I never said. Things I never thought. But, if it makes you feel better, I guess go ahead.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Ghetto can be a mindset and doesn't have to be a certain area. His parents, for example, seem pretty ghetto to me.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Poverty is a mindset, not a location.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

• He was raised in a gated community, I seriously doubt he was a victim of violence unless it was by his father.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

• I seriously doubt the gated community he lived in was settling differences violently.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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Karmelo Anthony living with family in $900K home in gated community, bought new car after release on bond in Austin Metcalf murder case: report

• The Texas teen accused of fatally stabbing a high school football star at a track meet allegedly lives in a $900,000 home with his family inside a luxurious gated community

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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His Dad is a convicted criminal too. His parents took all the money raised for his defense attorneys and spent it on their lifestyle, in the greatest example of poverty culture that I can think of.

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I don't doubt you. That goes to prove it wasn't that he was raised in that violent ridden community, because he wasn't. He was raised in an exclusive expensive gated community. I am so tired of the excuses made for this evil kid and his murderous behavior.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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This is the part that should worry you. Raised in the burbs but his ghetto parents instilled ghetto culture in him. Enough to kill over nothing

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That is a concern.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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His Dad is a convicted criminal too. His parents took all the money raised for his defense attorneys and spent it on their lifestyle, in the greatest example of poverty culture that I can think of.

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I don't doubt you. That goes to prove it wasn't that he was raised in that violent ridden community, because he wasn't. He was raised in an exclusive expensive gated community. I am so tired of the excuses made for this evil kid and his murderous behavior.

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You seem willing to die on this hill.

Poverty mindset is a real thing, and it isn't exclusive to one location. If you take people out of a physical ghetto and put them in a nice neighborhood, they're still ghetto people. Anthony's parents and Anthony himself are proof of that.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Ghetto can be a mindset and doesn't have to be a certain area. His parents, for example, seem pretty ghetto to me.

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Agreed, my point is posters here are saying his murderous behavior was the fault of living in a violent community which is false.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Ghetto can be a mindset and doesn't have to be a certain area. His parents, for example, seem pretty ghetto to me.

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Agreed, my point is posters here are saying his murderous behavior was the fault of living in a violent community which is false.

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No. YOU are the one who connected being ghetto with a physical location.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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If you take people out of a physical ghetto and put them in a nice neighborhood, they're still ghetto people.

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Ive seen this one and let me tell you, i absolutely LOVE this movie.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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His Dad is a convicted criminal too. His parents took all the money raised for his defense attorneys and spent it on their lifestyle, in the greatest example of poverty culture that I can think of.

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I don't doubt you. That goes to prove it wasn't that he was raised in that violent ridden community, because he wasn't. He was raised in an exclusive expensive gated community. I am so tired of the excuses made for this evil kid and his murderous behavior.

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He was not raised in a gated community. His family leased a house and moved to a gated community AFTER he murdered Metcalf. I haven't seen anyone state that he was raised in a violent neighborhood, although I have no idea where he was raised in Louisiana.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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His Dad is a convicted criminal too. His parents took all the money raised for his defense attorneys and spent it on their lifestyle, in the greatest example of poverty culture that I can think of.

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I don't doubt you. That goes to prove it wasn't that he was raised in that violent ridden community, because he wasn't. He was raised in an exclusive expensive gated community. I am so tired of the excuses made for this evil kid and his murderous behavior.

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You seem willing to die on this hill.

Poverty mindset is a real thing, and it isn't exclusive to one location. If you take people out of a physical ghetto and put them in a nice neighborhood, they're still ghetto people. Anthony's parents and Anthony himself are proof of that.

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Poverty may be a mind set, but I was responding to a post blaming the community:

Here is the post I was resp to and my response in bold:

You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

"You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.(this is the post I responded to)

• He was raised in a gated community, I seriously doubt he was a victim of violence unless it was by his father.(this is my response)

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.(this is the post I responded to)

• I seriously doubt the gated community he lived in was settling differences violently."(this is my response

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Ghetto can be a mindset and doesn't have to be a certain area. His parents, for example, seem pretty ghetto to me.

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Agreed, my point is posters here are saying his murderous behavior was the fault of living in a violent community which is false.

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No. YOU are the one who connected being ghetto with a physical location.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Here is the post I was responded to and my response in bold:

You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

"You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.(this is the post I responded to)

• He was raised in a gated community, I seriously doubt he was a victim of violence unless it was by his father.(this is my response)

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.(this is the post I responded to)

• I seriously doubt the gated community he lived in was settling differences violently."(this is my response

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If he would have looked at them, people would have said he was defiant.

I don't want people thinking I am defending him. I'm just saying the whole damned thing is a tragedy, and I do not take pleasure in his punishment. The process is the process, but I'm not going to rejoice in it. I'd have been better off not ever hearing either of their names.

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Close your eyes now pretend Carmella stabbed your son or daughter in the heart with a knife that he took to a track meet
And then think about how you'd feel maybe you'll get out of your bleeding heart situation

This kid unfortunately I hope the pastor reads his rights to Jesus and he should be executed

There's no place on Earth to have these type of people and too much is been allowed in this country of violence this wasn't an active somebody defending themselves or a two dudes fight over a check this is a dude going out to look to kill somebody in dead

I just keep thinking this could have been my son or my nephew and it hurts me because they didn't need to die that day and this is a guy looking for trouble and he got it.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Ghetto can be a mindset and doesn't have to be a certain area. His parents, for example, seem pretty ghetto to me.

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Agreed, my point is posters here are saying his murderous behavior was the fault of living in a violent community which is false.

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No. YOU are the one who connected being ghetto with a physical location.

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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.

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Here is the post I was resp to and my response in bold:

You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

"You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.(this is the post I responded to)

• He was raised in a gated community, I seriously doubt he was a victim of violence unless it was by his father.(this is my response)

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.(this is the post I responded to)

• I seriously doubt the gated community he lived in was settling differences violently."(this is my response

By the way seeing people defend him disgust me and I don't get disgusted very easily I'm usually disgusting that people being disgusted because I think they're weak people

When somebody's going out looking to kill somebody I don't see any reason why anybody defends them other than his mama and begging to spare his life . that's it but she's too busy taking money for his legal defense and buying a house and car. if you want to feel sorry for somebody feel sorry for Carmelo the fact his parents did that

But not sorry as the father and mother that just lost their son's life for doing nothing more than being a stand-up guy

Repeating the same post three times where you were wrong doesn't suddenly make you right.

Karmello was not raised in a gated community, and the 'community' referred to in the post you originally replied to is talking about the people around him, not a physical space.