Pizza said:

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Right now the problem is society...

All of society should collectively turn its back to karmelo's entire family, and anyone that offers a helping hand should be met with aggression.

Yet somehow society allows a very small yet vocal minority to pour acid into the wound...just like we do with the trans / dei / lgbtqlmnop problems.

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Our society is trash. We sat back and let the liberals/degenerates dictate societal norms and that's how we got to where we are now. Anybody that thinks conservatives "shouldn't fight the culture war" is a brain dead moron.

Im Gipper said:

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It's rare that the SWAT team actually goes out on a swatting call. It's usually "normal" police

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BUT they are usually booted and suited when they do. Kind of depends on the details of the 911 call as to whether it is ongoing with exigent circumstances.

I have a a further point. The families should not be targeted in any fashion. Neither Anthonys nor the Metcalfs.

Now that press conference stunt the Anthonys called, was a very unwise provocation. Putting them at the forefront.

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Logos Stick said:

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I don't have much respect for the guy. No human being, other than Jesus himself who was God in the flesh, reacts like he did right after their child is murdered with the "I've forgiven the perp" stuff.

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You don't have respect for people who abide by their Christian faith?

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So if I understand the situation , the first reaction by the father in public, almost before his son's body is cold, is to forgive the perp. A move that only a few who have ever existed could honestly do that soon, Christian or not.

The guy then shows up to a pressor by the family of the perp he has forgiven - which is extremely provocative and non christian behavior - and when asked by the family to leave, refuses to do so - again not very Christ like - until law enforcement escorts him out under threat of arrest.

So he's willing to almost walk on water like Jesus and immediately forgive his sons killer, but then goes all aggressive during the pressor. If I were advising him, I would have strongly recommended he not go. After all, he's forgiven everyone. There is no point.

I'm just a wee bit skeptical of his sincerity. I think it is performative activism, like many whites do now in similar situations.


Eta: I have major sympathy for the guy, it's terrible to lose a child. But the forgiveness statement...

I don't believe this has been mentioned yet, but WFAA is reporting that the house of Metcalf's mother (and twin brother, I assume - - parents are divorced) was also swatted, way back on April 8th -- less than a week after the stabbing. Truly disgusting.

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Police also confirmed to WFAA that the home of Meghan Metcalf, Austin Metcalf's mother, was swatted on the night of April 8.

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Austin Metcalf's father targeted by swatting call Thursday, Frisco police confirm

Logos Stick said:

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eric76 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I don't have much respect for the guy. No human being, other than Jesus himself who was God in the flesh, reacts like he did right after their child is murdered with the "I've forgiven the perp" stuff.

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You don't have respect for people who abide by their Christian faith?

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So if I understand the situation , the first reaction by the father in public, almost before his son's body is cold, is to forgive the perp. A move that only a few who have ever existed could honestly do that soon, Christian or not.

The guy then shows up to a pressor by the family of the perp he has forgiven - which is extremely provocative and non christian behavior - and when asked by the family to leave, refuses to do so - again not very Christ like - until law enforcement escorts him out under threat of arrest.

So he's willing to almost walk on water like Jesus and immediately forgive his sons killer, but then goes all aggressive during the pressor. If I were advising him, I would have strongly recommended he not go. After all, he's forgiven everyone. There is no point.

I'm just a wee bit skeptical of his sincerity. I think it is performative activism, like many whites do now in similar situations.


Eta: I have major sympathy for the guy, it's terrible to lose a child. But the forgiveness statement...

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I mean it probably was performative. He showed how to not act like a piece of **** thug and stab someone when asked to leave. I mean he had every right to be there just like Karmelo had every right to be under that tent!

Logos Stick said:

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eric76 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I don't have much respect for the guy. No human being, other than Jesus himself who was God in the flesh, reacts like he did right after their child is murdered with the "I've forgiven the perp" stuff.

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You don't have respect for people who abide by their Christian faith?

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So if I understand the situation , the first reaction by the father in public, almost before his son's body is cold, is to forgive the perp. A move that only a few who have ever existed could honestly do that soon, Christian or not.

The guy then shows up to a pressor by the family of the perp he has forgiven - which is extremely provocative and non christian behavior - and when asked by the family to leave, refuses to do so - again not very Christ like - until law enforcement escorts him out under threat of arrest.

So he's willing to almost walk on water like Jesus and immediately forgive his sons killer, but then goes all aggressive during the pressor. If I were advising him, I would have strongly recommended he not go. After all, he's forgiven everyone. There is no point.

I'm just a wee bit skeptical of his sincerity. I think it is performative activism, like many whites do now in similar situations.


Eta: I have major sympathy for the guy, it's terrible to lose a child. But the forgiveness statement...

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Or, he was doing everything he could on the day of the stabbing to try and forgive this person who took his sons life. He (apparently foolishly) thought the community could rally around this as a tragedy as two young lives were forever ruined and was willing to give Karmelo the benefit of the doubt that he was acting in a heightened sense of emotion and made a terrible, horrible decision and didn't need the dad and community piling on. Instead, he got met with a small but very vocal fraction of the community painting both of his sons, the deceased and the twin, as some bullies who jumped Karmelo out of some white supremacist thought process and treated poor Karmelo as Rosa Parks. Lies were made up that they had been bullying Karmelo for weeks, harassed his girlfriend, and broke his phone. This dad saw his deceased son and his grieving son vilified in an attempt to help the killer thwart justice.

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I'm just a wee bit skeptical of his sincerity. I think it is performative activism, like many whites do now in similar situations.

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You're skeptical if the guy has forgiven his son's murderer? I'm sure that took a lot of mental labor to arrive at that conclusion.

Curious though, what pattern of "white" behavior are you alluding to here? Theres a history of white parents of slain white children forgiving their children's murderers? And you think it's all for performance?

I'm truly trying to understand what you meant by this statement.

HoustonAg9999 said:

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Yall monday morning qbing the dad after he lost his son in a brutal manner is not cool. I think it was a brilliant move to go to the presser very bad look on the thug's family for bootong him out

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I agree, and the forgiveness comment he's getting hammered for, was likely directed at the twin that survived. Who I'm sure is wanting to go American History X right now. As well as many of the kids under the tent that witnessed it. Shameful to judge a persons response immediately after something like that.

This entire situation is evil.

This incident has me seriously starting to think that the 1950's segregationists had some valid points.

Logos Stick said:

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The guy then shows up to a pressor by the family of the perp he has forgiven - which is extremely provocative and non christian behavior - and when asked by the family to leave, refuses to do so - again not very Christ like - until law enforcement escorts him out under threat of arrest.

So he's willing to almost walk on water like Jesus and immediately forgive his sons killer, but then goes all aggressive during the pressor.

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Or maybe both events were Christ like

Mark 11, 15-18: On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations'[a]? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.


Forgiveness doesn't mean he should sit idly by while Karmelo's parents try to twist the truth to paint the picture of their thug life murdering son into some sort of victim

Swatting should catch an attempted murder charge.

I'll bet Austin's Dad regrets coming out and forgiving the murderer for killing his son. It Opened the door for them to flip the script on the incident. Just keep your mouth shut and let the police handle the investigation. Sad situation all the way around.