Is it possible that some members of the board, not the entirety of the board, started quietly looking for a replacement and got caught?

BoydCrowder13 said:

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I think Musk is a visionary much the way Jobs was. Tesla wouldn't have gotten off the ground without him or been nearly as popular or successful.

But I do think it could be beneficial for Tesla to turn the reins over to someone else. Much like Tim Cook after Jobs died. Apple is 10X more valuable than it was when Jobs died and has had steady growth since then.

Elon is easily the most erratic major CEO out there. Between his rhetoric, earnings calls, tweets, relationship with Trump, time spent on DOGE, I don't know what he is adding to Tesla at this point except uncertainty and hate from a lot of their customer base.

Tesla is a $trillion company at this point. Not a garage band start up.

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The hate is from deranged lefties, which is redundant I know. Elon could literally die today and they won't stop hating Tesla.

Without Elon, Tesla becomes just another car company.

Cook hasn't done ***** When you have a cult following and are part of an oligopoly, you don't have to do **** to make money.

There has been fewer instances of terrorism since they started arresting people for crimes and facing 20 years in prison. I've seen less publicity recently. I think the terrorism storm has for the most part passed.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Is it possible that some members of the board, not the entirety of the board, started quietly looking for a replacement and got caught?

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Would be an all timer stupid move. >75% of shareholders (excluding Musk) voted to reinstate Musk's pay package. Don't think there's a particularly large appetite for removing Musk. You'll get Ross Gerber going on CNN advocating it, but he's a moron and his managed fund has basically the same number of shares as me.

hph6203 said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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I think Musk is a visionary much the way Jobs was. Tesla wouldn't have gotten off the ground without him or been nearly as popular or successful.

But I do think it could be beneficial for Tesla to turn the reins over to someone else. Much like Tim Cook after Jobs died. Apple is 10X more valuable than it was when Jobs died and has had steady growth since then.

Elon is easily the most erratic major CEO out there. Between his rhetoric, earnings calls, tweets, relationship with Trump, time spent on DOGE, I don't know what he is adding to Tesla at this point except uncertainty and hate from a lot of their customer base.

Tesla is a $trillion company at this point. Not a garage band start up.

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Tesla is still innovating/developing products that will create markets. The value of Tesla stock would fall by 80% absent that activity. Tim Cook hasn't done a single thing that is interesting since becoming CEO. His one big swing was Apple Vision. A Tim Cook CEO would say Tesla needs to focus on the car business.

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Apple grew from a $200B company to a $3T company under Cook's leadership. At some point, a savvy business manager isn't a bad thing.

It's not a bad thing when what you're doing is growing a high margin product in a market you already dominate. It is a bad thing for the long term aggressiveness of the company. Tesla is a car company without Musk making car company money. It would be catastrophic. Founder CEO creates a culture of boldness, manager CEO creates a culture of preservation.

Apple didn't have a choice. If they did Steve jobs would still be running things and Apple would almost certainly be in a better position than it is now, because the best new product release in the last 15 years wouldn't be a set of ear buds.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Elon needs to sue them into the ground.

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100%. If they were informed before the article went to press that the story was untrue and they published it anyway, he needs to break it off in them.

That's not journalism, that's a blatant attempt to plant doubts with shareholders and harm the company.

FobTies said:

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I could see a proposal to put in a lame duck CEO to do all the sign-offs and day to day tasks. Having a tight leash with BOD and Musk.

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Biden is free. He's used to that set-up.

pfo said:

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Pushing Elon out of Tesla would result in the same thing that happened to Apple when they pushed Steve Jobs out.

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For those interested in Steve Jobs leaving Apple:
Why Steve Jobs Left Apple 30 Years Ago Today

• "What can I say? I hired the wrong guy," Jobs told the BBC in a 1996 televised interview. "He destroyed everything I spent 10 years working on." Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, however, has refuted Jobs's claim, writing in a Facebook post last week that Jobs left the company voluntarily following the dispute with Sculley.

Steve Jobs did return and made his biggest mistake in picking Tim Cook as his successor.

I wouldn't bet against Musk. Might be time to buy some Tesla stock. Tesla is more than electric vehicles.

Cook is a "nuts and bolts" tactical manager and has run the company well, you need that during large growth periods

FlyRod said:

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pfo said:

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Pushing Elon out of Tesla would result in the same thing that happened to Apple when they pushed Steve Jobs out.

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A viable company making things people love and doing well?

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LOL. Add zero knowledge of history to your growing list of inadequacies.