Kenneth_2003 said:

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Aggie Infantry said:

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If you build a parking lot, put solar to provide shade for the cars and power for your lot.

What happened to the solar shingles for homes? Those looked promising and did not look like crap on a roof.

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The fact that parking structures aren't using solar for shade tells you a lot about the actual economics. When building owners/managers didn't invest their own capital...

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A new apt complex one of my teams at my second job started handling did exactly this in their parking garage. It makes perfect sense.

Ag97 said:

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I'm not sure how it is nation wide but here in the Brazos Valley, there are 3 huge solar farms that have covered thousands of acres near Iola, Rockdale and Cameron. It definitely wasn't undesirable land that now looks like and industrial hell scape compared to the pasture and row crop land it housed before.

I much prefer the lignite plants that have been replaced. Smaller footprint helped keep cooling lakes operational and maintained for public use.

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I've seen several solar farms in prime farmland areas of eastern Arkansas and western Tennessee.

I wonder if the next Democrat president will change this

I don't know if the land size has been run, but I've long thought that an ideal location for solar array is medians/access roads on highways.
Little blockage by trees, easy access for repair and connecting to power transmission lines that often run parallel to highways anyhow. As well, medians are the definition of dead space.
I've been in the O/G upstream/midstream industry for 15+ years, but I'm also a proponent of technology when applied sensibly. Putting solar in areas where no ag can ever be considered seems like common sense, right?

I voted for this.

ClickClack said:

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Ag97 said:

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I'm not sure how it is nation wide but here in the Brazos Valley, there are 3 huge solar farms that have covered thousands of acres near Iola, Rockdale and Cameron. It definitely wasn't undesirable land that now looks like and industrial hell scape compared to the pasture and row crop land it housed before.

I much prefer the lignite plants that have been replaced. Smaller footprint helped keep cooling lakes operational and maintained for public use.

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I work in solar and actually worked for one of the owners that built one of these near Iola.

Most of the time the land leased out is because it's not desirable for other purposes. More often than farming it is used for grazing cattle if anything. But usually if a landowner is trying to lease out their land it's because it's not profitable for other purposes.

I will say it bothers me a lot when massive acreage of trees get cleared to put solar down.

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You do realize people eat Beef right?

The last project I built, in Terrell had probably 50 head of cattle on 1300 acres. The landowner, an Asian woman who was never there, was renting out the land to this cattle grazer and some hunters. She chose to lease it out for solar and battery storage. That's her choice and the cattle are now grazing someone else's land.

Point is the land was not being used for much and was definitely not farmland. It had some cattle intermittently. I think the beef sector will be ok.

Yes.

ClickClack said:

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The last project I built, in Terrell had probably 50 head of cattle on 1300 acres. The landowner, an Asian woman who was never there, was renting out the land to this cattle grazer and some hunters. She chose to lease it out for solar and battery storage. That's her choice and the cattle are now grazing someone else's land.

Point is the land was not being used for much and was definitely not farmland. It had some cattle intermittently. I think the beef sector will be ok.

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50 head of cattle on that acreage would not be for full time unless it rains an inch a week.

ClickClack said:

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That's her choice

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No one said it wasnt, its just wasteful.



Apparently we will see how the industry works without tax payer dollars

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Aggie Infantry said:

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If you build a parking lot, put solar to provide shade for the cars and power for your lot.

What happened to the solar shingles for homes? Those looked promising and did not look like crap on a roof.

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The fact that parking structures aren't using solar for shade tells you a lot about the actual economics. When building owners/managers didn't invest their own capital...

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What it ells me is the owner of the parking area does not think it will be a parking area in 10 years , the owner knows dumbass drivers will back into the structures , and that there is nobody adjacent to the lot that needs a little bit of extra electricity

Mega Lops said:

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Climate change scam is used to justify shady climate-related business opportunities.

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Oopsie

A Robust and Sustained Pause in Arctic Sea Ice

Research concludes 20 year + "pause" in sea ice loss was totally normal and expected all along.

Previously, this was a conspiracy theory tagged as misinformation and is now considered an obvious fact. https://t.co/Fx9vQOJN3X pic.twitter.com/PDZWtyMQ4t

— Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) August 20, 2025

Jbob04 said:

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The coal power plant I work at has been clearing hundred and hundreds of acres since January getting ready to put in solar panels. The amount of beautiful oak trees they have dozed down for this crap is ridiculous. This place was a wildlife haven due to no hunting on site and we don't see any animals anymore here.

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sounds like a great way to reduce global warming - those pesky trees keep the CO2 levels from rising to hysteria levels.

captkirk said:

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Mega Lops said:

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Climate change scam is used to justify shady climate-related business opportunities.

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Oopsie

A Robust and Sustained Pause in Arctic Sea Ice

Research concludes 20 year + "pause" in sea ice loss was totally normal and expected all along.

Previously, this was a conspiracy theory tagged as misinformation and is now considered an obvious fact. https://t.co/Fx9vQOJN3X pic.twitter.com/PDZWtyMQ4t

— Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) August 20, 2025

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It's winter down there.
And the climate changes every season.

ClickClack said:

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The last project I built, in Terrell had probably 50 head of cattle on 1300 acres. The landowner, an Asian woman who was never there, was renting out the land to this cattle grazer and some hunters. She chose to lease it out for solar and battery storage. That's her choice and the cattle are now grazing someone else's land.

Point is the land was not being used for much and was definitely not farmland. It had some cattle intermittently. I think the beef sector will be ok.

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My point is that even in this post you appear to be dismissive of raising cattle like it's "just grazing cattle". The income 50 head of mama cows generates right now is more than the average or media income in the us.

Now when you compare the 1300 acres and only 50 cows then that doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's west Texas or something.

It's not that big of a deal but some of us make our lively hood "just grazing cattle"

I have solar off grid in the mountains. It is great for that application. IMO solar is good for point of use generation, especially where there is no grid. Better than wind. But for grid generation or grid tie it is not practical.

techno-ag said:

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captkirk said:

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Mega Lops said:

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Climate change scam is used to justify shady climate-related business opportunities.

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Oopsie

A Robust and Sustained Pause in Arctic Sea Ice

Research concludes 20 year + "pause" in sea ice loss was totally normal and expected all along.

Previously, this was a conspiracy theory tagged as misinformation and is now considered an obvious fact. https://t.co/Fx9vQOJN3X pic.twitter.com/PDZWtyMQ4t

— Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) August 20, 2025

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It's winter down there.
And the climate changes every season.

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I guess the phrase "20+ year pause" in melting Arctic ice is lost on you. Has nothing to do with "it's winter down there"

Arctic is where Santa Claus lives. It is winter in Antarctica

captkirk said:

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techno-ag said:

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captkirk said:

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Mega Lops said:

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Climate change scam is used to justify shady climate-related business opportunities.

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Oopsie

A Robust and Sustained Pause in Arctic Sea Ice

Research concludes 20 year + "pause" in sea ice loss was totally normal and expected all along.

Previously, this was a conspiracy theory tagged as misinformation and is now considered an obvious fact. https://t.co/Fx9vQOJN3X pic.twitter.com/PDZWtyMQ4t

— Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) August 20, 2025

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It's winter down there.
And the climate changes every season.

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I guess the phrase "20+ year pause" in melting Arctic ice is lost on you. Has nothing to do with "it's winter down there"

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Hey I'm just thankful car exhaust ended the last ice age. You know, since man is responsible for all climate change, not things like the sun, seasons, and volcanoes.

I'm saying it was a small number for the amount of land. It might not have even been 50 and it wasn't the landowners cattle either. That's my point.

jpb1999 said:

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Great start! So when do we start removing them also?!?

There are areas of Central Texas that are destroyed. Beautiful range and crop land.

IF this needed to be done somewhere, there are 1000s and 1000s of acres in far west Texas or New Mexico with nothing on them.

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Great idea until you have to take private land throughout the state through eminent domain for transmission lines to bring power east.

Too lazy to read all the posts. So siap, but why aren't they putting solar in the desert?

I've seen stories about solar panels in semi arid climates that actually promotes grass growth to graze seep and such underneath.

Why not put them over every parking lot for shade? So many places that could use shade farmland seems stupid. Or intentionally destructive.

put them on top of high rises and parking garages and lots.

That is what they are doing now to take power west.

Why are there not windmills in major cities and solar panel deserts where the usage is?

Farmer_J said:

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Too lazy to read all the posts. So siap, but why aren't they putting solar in the desert?

I've seen stories about solar panels in semi arid climates that actually promotes grass growth to graze seep and such underneath.

Why not put them over every parking lot for shade? So many places that could use shade farmland seems stupid. Or intentionally destructive.

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They want to stop farming, its a main goal of the progressives