I don't think the notional 'pilot program' is the 'same' as Biden's 2021 "Infrastructure Bill." 9 cents a mile? And, the California program would be a supplemental one, not an alternative just for EV drivers, aimed directly at rural/suburban drivers:

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"This disproportionately hits rural residents and long-distance commuters," Republican lawmaker Alexandra Macedo said. "This favors wealthy EV drivers over everyday Californians. We already pay the highest gas tax in the U.S. We shouldn't be adding a mileage tax on top of it."
Bruce Lou, a delegate for the San Francisco and state Republican Party, was among those blasting the proposal online.
"This per-mile tax would be on top of the highest gas taxes in the country," Lou wrote on X. "Citizens shouldn't be treated like ATMs."
Assemblymember Carl DeMaio (R-San Diego) delivered a blistering critique of AB 1421 in comments on the Assembly floor Thursday.
"When you add up the car tax, the gas tax, and this new mileage tax, a working family with two cars and two parents driving could be forced to pay $4,200 a year to the state of California just for the privilege of driving on crappy roads," DeMaio said. "What are we thinking here?"
Wilson has dismissed the backlash as partisan and defended the bill, arguing it "responds to a reality that we can no longer ignore."

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I've heard first-hand complaints about their registration/licensing fees, which are also pretty outlandish.

Yeah, I think we are saying the same thing. This California plan is in addition to the federal plan that has yet to be implemented.

I remember way back when, Al Gore(Kerry?) championed extremely high fuel prices where we the peasants wouldn't be able to afford to drive anymore, to save the planet. Of course they would still get around in limos and lear jets.

Useful idiots in CA are finally going to test this idea. I'm sure we'll notice the massive difference when we have a westerly wind. Thanks, and good luck!

most people in CA just assume their gas prices are normal. They have no idea how cheap it is elsewhere.

Say you're getting 30 mi/ gallon driving an fairly efficient car.

And take 6 cents for the cost per mile in the new tax. (will be higher, because they will find some say for the "rich" to pay more.

That's adding almost $2.00 tax per gallon.

At this rate, the flight to Texas and Florida will eventually be like refugees from a land shattered by war, famine, or disease.

The disease is liberalism, btw.

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Say you're getting 30 mi/ gallon driving an fairly efficient car.

And take 6 cents for the cost per mile in the new tax. (will be higher, because they will find some say for the "rich" to pay more.

That's adding almost $2.00 tax per gallon.

At this rate, the flight to Texas and Florida will eventually be like refugees from a land shattered by war, famine, or disease.

The disease is liberalism, btw.

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Now throw in whatever the Feds are going to hit you with on top of that.

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That's adding almost $2.00 tax per gallon.

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My experience in Los Angeles this weekend was about $2/gal more than gas costs here in Texas. It's just absolutely stupid prices.

Oops - feeling the burn a little earlier than expected...

California's already sky-high gas prices are expected to surge after Valero abruptly shuttered its Benicia oil refinery amid a spiraling "oil crisis," a new report claims.


The Benicia refinery began shutting down on Saturday, four months earlier than planned, a former Valero manager told the California Globe Tuesday

I do feel sorry for all the non-crazies there. I lived in CA about 5 years and there are good people there. Just not enough, apparently.

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Oops - feeling the burn a little earlier than expected...

California's already sky-high gas prices are expected to surge after Valero abruptly shuttered its Benicia oil refinery amid a spiraling "oil crisis," a new report claims.


The Benicia refinery began shutting down on Saturday, four months earlier than planned, a former Valero manager told the California Globe Tuesday

I do feel sorry for all the non-crazies there. I lived in CA about 5 years and there are good people there. Just not enough, apparently.

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Wow, that'll be interesting. Im headed out there next month for work, talking with locals will be a delight.

I know of at least one refiner who is trying to increase their supply to California, but it will take several years to fully implement the plan. Kali will suffer in the meantime, and also, this refiner won't be able to supply all that was lost from the shuttered refineries.

I'm a bit perplexed.

The Valero refinery is gone. Is inventory keeping prices stable? I would have expected to see dramatic increases by now.

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I'm a bit perplexed.

The Valero refinery is gone. Is inventory keeping prices stable? I would have expected to see dramatic increases by now.

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Im not sure how it hasn't already spiked. The other refinery already shut down in Dec. So theyre down 17-20% refinery capacity. Plus the other refinery that's doen because it blew the eff up. Chevron El Segundo refinery, 10/9 exploded, but that was jet fuel. So that explains a few things.

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My experience in Los Angeles this weekend was about $2/gal more than gas costs here in Texas. It's just absolutely stupid prices.

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Yep... I've had $100 fill ups (18 gallons) on my Jeep Wrangler before in California.

I posted a pic on FB just to freak out all my Texas friends.

Funny thing is. When I lived in Australia, $6.50 gas was a normal price.

And I had a 131 Euro fill up on the Autobahn last year in my rental Audi A6.

So to InfantryAg's point earlier, a lot of folks just think this these prices are normal.

Hopefully the projected $8.43 per gallon gasoline in CA will sink Governor Goodhair's presidential campaign.

It will only take 1 refinery to go down for unexpected maintenance or a typhoon in SE Asia to muck up deliveries for 2 weeks to spike prices.

From what I read elsewhere, SE Asia refineries aren't going to expand capacity so youll have greater demand on existing supply which will keep prices high regardless.