AI Workers Are Putting In 100-Hour Workweeks

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This is a scary situation and shows how we are heading to the 3rd world situation where everyone has to work 100 hours just to survive. Is that the USA we want?

Earlier, there were people who wanted to work 100 hour weeks but choice. They got the rewards for this labor. Soon, everyone will have to do 100 hour weeks and be paid normal regular wages. You will get something more if you do 140 hours. Remember the upper limit is 168 hours in a week. No one gets more, ever unless you figure out a way to bend time.

What are the impacts?
1. Mental health epidemic. People work and do nothing else.
2. Impaired relationships. They don't have friends, no boy/girl friends, no wives or husbands. Everyone is at work.
3. No one has children. You need to have a partner and then have sex with them. No one has time anymore so maybe AI kids?

We now have a "9-9-6" culture coming in. That is 72 hours. Wait until we have a 7-10-7 culture comes in.

We are leaving a terrible world for our kids.

AI Workers Are Putting In 100-Hour Workweeks to Win the New Tech Arms Race
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-race-tech-workers-schedule-1ea9a116?st=jgCmPW&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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Josh Batson no longer has time for social media.
The AI researcher's only comparable dopamine hit these days is on Anthropic's Slack workplace-messaging channels, where he explores chatter about colleagues' theories and experiments on large language models and architecture.
Batson is among a group of core artificial-intelligence researchers and executives who are facing a relentless grind, racing to keep pace with a seemingly endless cycle of disruption in pursuit of systems with superhuman intelligence.
Inside Silicon Valley's biggest AI labs, top researchers and executives are regularly working 80 to 100 hours a week. Several top researchers compared the circumstances to war.
"We're basically trying to speedrun 20 years of scientific progress in two years," said Batson, a research scientist at Anthropic. Extraordinary advances in AI systems are happening "every few months," he said. "It's the most interesting scientific question in the world right now."
Executives and researchers at Microsoft, Anthropic, Alphabet's Google, Meta Platforms, Apple and OpenAI have said they see their work as critical to a seminal moment in history as they duel with rivals and seek new ways to bring AI to the masses.
Some of them are now millionaires many times over, but several said they haven't had time to spend their new fortunes.
The competition for AI talent kicked into high gear when Mark Zuckerberg began poaching top AI workers from rivals, offering multimillion-dollar pay packages. That showed how the work of a relatively small cluster of researchers and executives was one of the world's most precious resources. Now companies and the workers themselves are seeking to wring as much work as possible from these individuals each and every day.
"Everyone is working all the time, it's extremely intense, and there doesn't seem to be any kind of natural stopping point," Madhavi Sewak, a distinguished researcher at Google's DeepMind, said in a recent interview.

G Martin 87
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Unless I've missed something, this story is about how the AI developers are working 100 hour work weeks. Not workers in general. How are you getting from a narrow, very specialized area of software development to a "we're all going to have to work 100 hours or more every week just to survive" scenario?
Sims
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So he can scratch his CEOs are evil itch.

Conflating this article to the general population working 100 hour weeks is about as big of a stretch as I've seen in a while.
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Ai development is a race right now. The rest of the business world is not. Now the natural consequences of ai winning is you not having a job at all.
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Soon, everyone will have to do 100 hour weeks and be paid normal regular wages.

uh can I have baseless claim for $100 please?
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G Martin 87 said:

Unless I've missed something, this story is about how the AI developers are working 100 hour work weeks. Not workers in general. How are you getting from a narrow, very specialized area of software development to a "we're all going to have to work 100 hours or more every week just to survive" scenario?

Agree. We're talking about AI researchers in a kind of "space race" to see who comes up with the dominant AI program for the near future. This is similar to Microsoft & IBM in the early 90's feverishly working to come up with the dominant program (Windows won). I knew IBMers that literally lived at their office for months while this was going on.
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Small business owner here.

I worked a lot of 100 hour weeks… especially when I was trying to build the business up.

Now that I'm old and slowing down, I rarely work more than 70 or 80 hours a week…

Just saying it not rare for entrepreneurs to work for the goal and not the clock.

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G Martin 87 said:

Unless I've missed something, this story is about how the AI developers are working 100 hour work weeks. Not workers in general. How are you getting from a narrow, very specialized area of software development to a "we're all going to have to work 100 hours or more every week just to survive" scenario?

It is his new schtick. He seriously needs to back away from the keyboard for a while. The US heading to 3rd world? GTFO with that nonsense. I've seen 3rd world on just about every continent outside North America and we are nowhere near that.
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Need a break?

Learn to coal mine.
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I work in AI research and I can assure you that 99% of the people working in this space are not working 100 hours a week. There are a core group of developers who might be doing it but our of tens of thousands working on AI, you are talking about a very small number of extremely highly compensated workers who are doing this.

And before you feel sorry for them, realize that some of them have 9 figure total comp and all of them are in the 8 figures in total comp. They are trading time now for a future where work is optional and they will live a lifestyle that a tiny number of people ever get to experience.
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I think what you are missing here is I can grind out 100 hours a week, outperform my colleagues, earn top ranking, and in the AI industry, clear 600k or higher per year.

or I could work 40 hours for an oil and gas company, have to take mandatory timeouts when im typing too much, and get paid maybe 200k...

Lots of people are choosing option 1, putting in 10 years, and retiring early and walking away.
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there have always been professions in highly competitive and lucrative industries that work insane hours. oil and gas, defense industry esp. in ww2, farming etc. etc. etc. For the most part they are HIGHLY compensated for it because they have to be to entice the people needed to do it. This idea that eVeRyOnE is going to have to work insane hours is ridiculous. We are more likely heading in a direction where a lot of people have no job versus the other extreme.
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Yeah count me in as someone who will avoid a healthcare worker that is putting in those hours.

OP, like I say to my dog. "BIG Stretch!"
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G Martin 87
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Foamcows said:

I think what you are missing here is I can grind out 100 hours a week, outperform my colleagues, earn top ranking, and in the AI industry, clear 600k or higher per year.

or I could work 40 hours for an oil and gas company, have to take mandatory timeouts when im typing too much, and get paid maybe 200k...

Lots of people are choosing option 1, putting in 10 years, and retiring early and walking away.
I need to switch industries then. I've been in healthcare IT for decades and clearing nowhere near 200K.
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The folks who built ARPANET worked similar hours 55 years ago. I imagine the men who could craft the first English Longbows worked ridiculous hours too.

Technological revolutions are like that.
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In the AI market the name of the game is all about speed right now, the facilities are going up so quickly that from signing the deal until servers are being installed it can be as short as 6-8 weeks. People signing up for this know what the hours are going to be and are getting paid accordingly. It's not like they are going in this blind.

The money pouring in to AI is insane and companies know it. Some people are saying it will be hot and heavy for another year and then there will be a 2-4 year lull and when all of the servers start being outdated the process will start over.

Our company supplies part of the cooling systems and we had to grow our business exponentially to be able to handle the workload. But since we have we are getting a large portion of the market share. Remember in business 101 the companies that secure the market the fastest make the most money until everyone else catches up and everything starts to even out.
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Sims said:

So he can scratch his CEOs are evil itch.

Conflating this article to the general population working 100 hour weeks is about as big of a stretch as I've seen in a while.


Ha ha, nailed it
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Well, yeah, the guys on the Trinity project worked 100 hour weeks too. AI lead in today's world is similar to getting the nuclear lead 100 years ago. This is national security level stuff and our government is doing everything they can to get the best at it without raising too much panic (just like Trinity). IYKYK
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Your worldview must be exhausting.

If you put as much time and energy into something productive as you do *****ing about how much everyone else is working and getting paid you would be way better off.
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They are spending all their time programming exceptions over stuff that triggers leftists.

I have a dream. where a worker is judged by the quality of his effort and is not replaced by AI.
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100 hours in a week is less surprising than just how fast the Indians can type out a bad answer for me in my google search.
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Sims said:

So he can scratch his CEOs are evil itch.

Conflating this article to the general population working 100 hour weeks is about as big of a stretch as I've seen in a while.

You must have not read some of the other, recent posts. :-)
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Warrior for the common man, fabously wealthy self taught investor and now on par with Isaac Newton in the history of great thinkers.

It just gets better every time!
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100 hour work weeks and 9 figure compensation packages. The horror.
FrioAg 00
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Every day on TexAgs is a toss-up between

InfinityAg is MF Barnes

InfinityAg is the laziest SOB on the planet

InfinityAg's wife was stolen by a CEO




Today I'm going with #2
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The autism spectrum high IQ obsessive focus types can and will do this for stretches. Without having to be asked. If is is something interesting and challenging to them they will obsessively work at it and barely sleep.
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FrioAg 00 said:

Every day on TexAgs is a toss-up between

InfinityAg is MF Barnes

InfinityAg is the laziest SOB on the planet

InfinityAg's wife was stolen by a CEO




Today I'm going with #2


I think it's 3 because he didn't buy the wife the Mercedes when the stock market dipped after tariffs.

Or option 4 and administrative errors has pivoted from crypto to CEO and H1Bs are the antichrists.
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The extreme working hours by these AI devs is not surprising at all. Pretty normal when you are talking about evolutionary leaps in certain sectors which we are experiencing right now with AI.

And while I didn't work 100 hr weeks when I was at the startup I helped found 3 years ago I worked more in the 3 years I was there than I probably did in the last 6-7 years I did in corporate leadership.

Maturity of the company, sector, product will dictate your working hours to a some degree.
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And nobody can sustainably work 14+ hours a day, 7 days a week. Not long term. Soldiers may be the only thing close and then only active combat on a mission.

Oh, and Trump seems to be able to at 80 years old.

But there is nothing logical about AI leading to 100 hour workweeks and the US as a 3rd world country of slaves beholden to the job.
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As we import more and more 3rd world people and they raise money to buy companies they then expect everyone to work 80 works a week at discounted wages. When people say no they then bring in their 3rd world buddies who don't care about working 80-90 hours for chump change. They then leverage that money to buy another business and there goes the jobs of more Americans.
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flown-the-coop said:

FrioAg 00 said:

Every day on TexAgs is a toss-up between

InfinityAg is MF Barnes

InfinityAg is the laziest SOB on the planet

InfinityAg's wife was stolen by a CEO




Today I'm going with #2


I think it's 3 because he didn't buy the wife the Mercedes when the stock market dipped after tariffs.

Or option 4 and administrative errors has pivoted from crypto to CEO and H1Bs are the antichrists.


It is none of those. InfinityAg is a smart dude that made good money in his field and saved enough to be financially set. But when he approached 50, he got replaced by corps looking to outsource or bring in younger and cheaper talent. That happens a lot when you are not the boss by the time you reach your peak earning years.

His advice on how to secure your financial future is sound. Invest and start your own business before you are old enough to replace.

He is rightfully pissed that he got put out to pasture before he was ready to hang it up. He also is worried that his son will not be able to replicate high life path because the tech sector is more competitive because of DEI bs and outsourcing.

Now I completely disagree with him on his views on entitlement spending and his love of the downtrodden. He has a much softer heart than me.
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Yeah, I agree. One of the reasons I hung it up after 3 years is because maintaining the pace I was working was not sustainable and my wife was pretty much done with me working that much.

I possibly gave up absurd money, but I was just tired and wanted to stop.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

As we import more and more 3rd world people and they raise money to buy companies they then expect everyone to work 80 works a week at discounted wages. When people say no they then bring in their 3rd world buddies who don't care about working 80-90 hours for chump change. They then leverage that money to buy another business and there goes the jobs of more Americans.


So they are going to suddenly replicate the convenience store and hotel business model across all industries?

Plus, you may not be able to clock as many hours as some of these folks but you can out innovate and out efficienate those guys.
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I burned out one of my employees a few years ago and nearly my marriage and my health working 100 hour weeks, sleeping at my desk. I did it for about 6 months.

On the backside it seems worth it, but that's because I know the story turned out well. Would have sucked to have killed over, gotten divorced or gone bankrupt.

Regardless, as you also know it is not sustainable.
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