It's not going to happen overnight because parents are desperate to go $100k or more in debt to pay for their kiddo to party for 5 years.

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Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

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There is a definite element of truth to this statement, so I share your skeptism. It's also risky for participants because other companies may not place as much value on this companies training versus a degree plus experience.

College could definitely be more efficient. Do students need to have PE credit hours? Why does every degree at A&M require a semester of calculus? Why are humanities classes necessary? Many core classes could easily be eliminated and take at least a full semester to 1 year off of the degree plan or allow more time for relevant coursework. Of course, that would require a change in state law and all of the professor counsels from every university would be against considering the change.

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infinity ag said:

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Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

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How many years of college did Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg have under their belts when they started 3 of the largest, most profitable technology companies in the world? Your schtick is beyond old at this point.

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How many people do you find like Gates, Jobs an Zuck? How many have you met? OR Musk?

Don't pick exceptions as the rule.

Even Steve Jobs would find it hard to find a job in today's economy.

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For a lot of fields college is just an expensive screening stop for employers. They are now largely failing even at that modest mission. Mainly due to woke dei. This will become more common moving forward.

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I agree with you. What I don't understand is why many famous schools soiled their names with DEI. I saw that myself 4 years ago when my son was applying. Top private schools rejected him which is okay, but I was shocked to see many people with inferior profiles get in who were of the right race, right sex, right religion for them to crow DEI about.

Universities in America need a major reboot. They have forgotten who they are and what their mission is.They are all now holier than thou and too activisty.

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My guess is largely like you said in your first reply...follow the money. There is likely a lot of money tied to grands and funding in exchange for program implementation.

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That is what I think too. People have been making money in this broken system and now don't want anything to change.
Then we have their foot soldiers insulting those who want the system to be fixed. Why? Because they make money too.

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Excellent. Cancel all F1 Visas immediately

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ha ha

I approve this message, but there is again too much money to be made. My kid is applying to college this year and I (she) get a flood of emails from colleges and there are maybe 6k-7k universities in the US. Far too many.

Many should close down. My solution is if Indians want "an American education", they are free to go to those colleges like Coe College and Kent College and go back to their own countries. Leave Harvard and Stanford to American kids who cannot even get in anymore because the pipeline has been fixed by Indian consulting agencies much like H1B.

infinity ag said:

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Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

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Your weird anti-corporate schtick is made even weirder when you post wildly ignorant rants like this one.

Right now, prospective employees bear 100% of the risk. Instead of a lower income ramp up period called an apprenticeship where the employer accepts 50% of the risk (pays out the employee at a lower rate but accepts that the work will be slower and more error-prone) and the employee accepts 50% of the risk (lower compensation but gets paid while learning), students take on 100% of the risk by paying in advance for training (that they might find isn't even marketable) under the name "college." If anything, Palantir here is saying "we'll go back to accepting a portion of the risk"

It's probably beyond your comprehension, but Gary Becker modeled all of this in 1962 in the seminal study on human capital. Presciently, he stated that an all-college model would never work unless the govt stepped in to guarantee loans to pay for school (because banks would have no benefit to get into a one-sided risk agreement) and that it would take a cultural change to saying that everyone needed college in order to get people to accept the risk ("you don't need to accept a lower salary for 2 years while getting trained, you need to pay yourself up front while getting no pay!").

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How long before colleges Sauron this?

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Several misses of late. I'll give this one to you, even though it would be more appropriate in a privacy/police state context. :-)

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Yep. It was a stretch.

Read it like this:

"How long before colleges sour on this?"

See what I did there?