Hair?

Shoot, another list I didn't make.

BigRobSA said:

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Hair?

Shoot, another list I didn't make.

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Right back at you.

The government can't and should not discriminate, but private employers should totally be allowed to, especially during the hiring process.

You can use buzzwords like selective or judicious if it makes you feel better.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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Dont straighten the **** out, just use a comb, brush, pick, rake, or whatever you want to call a hair utensil.

BlackGold said:

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The government can't and should not discriminate, but private employers should totally be allowed to, especially during the hiring process.

You can use buzzwords like selective or judicious if it makes you feel better.

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Why not? Discrimination has been allowed, and even encouraged, for decades now

I don't think most people realize just how much time and money many WHITE women spend on their hair. Almost no females walk around with natural hair, aside from maybe young Asian and Latina females who tend to have thick shiny "easy" hair.

Also, some of the prettier black women I have seen wear their hair in somewhat of a styled afro...or in a shaggy/curly way.

Not one damned person ever asked or demanded that black womeen have to straighten their naturally curly hair. That would be like blaming whites for out of control eyelid surgery trends in Korea and Japan. That's on THEM.

Charpie said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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I don't think they're asking for some special treatment,

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Well. They are.

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The fact that they are asking to be treated fairly and you thinking they are asking for something special is telling

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It's not even a real thing. No one gives a **** what their hair is like. Do your job. Do it right. Work hard.
****ing democrats...Maddening!

A solution in search of a problem.

Businesses should have ever right to maintain standards for how their employees dress and present themselves while on the job.

This is about pandering to black voters, and giving them just another path to sue whenever they think their new "right" has been violated.

A. G. Pennypacker said:

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I can't imagine spending an hour a day just styling my hair. Glad I'm a dude and can just shower and run a comb or a brush through it.

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Literally the only good thing about being bald is you don't have to put 2 seconds a day into your hair.

IIIHorn said:

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Try not to wig out.

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Could be a very hairy situation we get ourselves into here....

El Gallo Blanco said:

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I don't think most people realize just how much time and money many WHITE women spend on their hair. Almost no females walk around with natural hair, aside from maybe young Asian and Latina females who tend to have thick shiny "easy" hair.

Also, some of the prettier black women I have seen wear their hair in somewhat of a styled afro...or in a shaggy/curly way.

Not one damned person ever asked or demanded that black womeen have to straighten their naturally curly hair. That would be like blaming whites for out of control eyelid surgery trends in Korea and Japan. That's on THEM.

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Blame the racist patriarchy! Down with the man!

esteban said:

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Hair policing by employers is dumb unless there is a legit safety hazard. Hair policing by schools is actively harmful to kids and serves no legitimate purpose.

The former should be legal. The latter should be illegal.

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This take is also dumb

Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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Just who are these people asking for professionals to have "straight" hair. I think you are confusing real life with television, movies, magazines and other liberal media sources.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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What are you talking about? Are you bald?

When I wake up, my gorgeous blond hair looks like crap.

After I shower, wash, condition, dry, comb or brush, then, it looks pretty good.

And because my hair grows so fast, when I was in the Fightin Texas Aggie Band, I had to get my hair cut on Thursday afternoon, right before haircut inspections. If I got it cut on Monday or Tuesday like other folks, it would be too long by Thursday.

You can make laws against "hair discrimination" all day long. Make ones for face tattoos and morbid obesity as well.

Watch me strategically use magical words like "best fit" and "leadership presence" and then continue not hiring dumbasses who aren't serious people, skating right around your stupid rules about who I should hire.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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What are you talking about? Are you bald?

When I wake up, my gorgeous blond hair looks like crap.

After I shower, wash, condition, dry, comb or brush, then, it looks pretty good.

And because my hair grows so fast, when I was in the Fightin Texas Aggie Band, I had to get my hair cut on Thursday afternoon, right before haircut inspections. If I got it cut on Monday or Tuesday like other folks, it would be too long by Thursday.

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Username definitely checks out

Esteban du Plantier said:

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I don't think they're asking for some special treatment

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They literally are.

Its a dumb law anyway. How would a person even prove that they were discriminated against due to their hair?

This is just going to lead to excess litigation

Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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****ing insane

IIIHorn said:

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Try not to wig out.

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Many do that and have for years. Then weaves were invented and younger black women opted for them. BUT those are expensive. Over time, a very good quality wig would be a better investment.

I actually had a wig for awhile when I was and also water skiing a lot preparing for competitions (nothing to write home about as I was way too light-weight to dig in to make those one-armed pylon turns at 36 mph. Was okay up to then but at 36? Nah.) Wig also came in handy when I was taking scuba diving lessons at night in a pool. Towel dry, slap on the wig and go home to shower. Then go out.

Anyway back to the topic. I could dry my hair but not really style it, so I had the wig to wear until I could get home and fix it. That was back during the Big Hair era. Needed a lot of product to hold up that 'do.

I'd be okay with calling this law really stupid (because frankly it is), if clean cut and shaven white dudes would admit that some of their brethren are really weird about others also needing to be clean cut and shaven.

This is anecdotal, but I went to 8 Superdays (term for single day, multi round interviews for banking) out of A&M. I always had a professional haircut and beard trim/shave the day before. At one point I was 0/6, and I decided to cut the beard. I then went 2/2 with offers. And this wasn't some strange beard, I had a basic straight line along the cheek and a taper to 2 in on the chin. I find it so odd that I even have to type / think this, but there is some hair-related bias in the corporate space.

Sometimes I think if I didn't cut my beard, my work history would actually look completely different. Lol

Is it OK to discriminate against shower caps?

aggiehawg said:

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IIIHorn said:

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Try not to wig out.

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Many do that and have for years. Then weaves were invented and younger black women opted for them. BUT those are expensive. Over time, a very good quality wig would be a better investment.

I actually had a wig for awhile when I was and also water skiing a lot preparing for competitions (nothing to write home about as I was way too light-weight to dig in to make those one-armed pylon turns at 36 mph. Was okay up to then but at 36? Nah.) Wig also came in handy when I was taking scuba diving lessons at night in a pool. Towel dry, slap on the wig and go home to shower. Then go out.

Anyway back to the topic. I could dry my hair but not really style it, so I had the wig to wear until I could get home and fix it. That was back during the Big Hair era. Needed a lot of product to hold up that 'do.

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I apologize.

It was just another poor attempt at wordsmithing.

From the Cambridge dictionary:

Wig out: to react or behave in a very excited or wild way

DrEvazanPhD said:

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BlackGold said:

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The government can't and should not discriminate, but private employers should totally be allowed to, especially during the hiring process.

You can use buzzwords like selective or judicious if it makes you feel better.

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Why not? Discrimination has been allowed, and even encouraged, for decades now

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The government needs to be impartial or at least have the appearance of impartiality, or else you get instances like covid vax mandates and the discrimination the government was willing push along with them. Affirmative action is another one. Discrimination by the fed is bad for its citizens.

Private citizens, business and enterprises are completely different and should be able to discriminate at will.

aggiehawg said:

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How do dreadlocks work? How does hair get that way?

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Originally, it was dung that was used to twist and then dried to hold that shape. Didn't stink as it was dried.

How they do them now, mostly weaves, I suspect.

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I hope you used better research and verification as an attorney. Generally, different forms of animal fat, oils, wax, ash, and the natural matting that occurs over time eere used, i.e. materials that aren't feces and don't carry related bacteria and parasites were used. Wow.

My source was Jamaicans in Jamaica from the 70s era. Back when the ends were done.

ETA: Rastafarians.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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Should we:

1. Allow the work day for blacks to begin at 9am, to afford them an extra hour to get their hair ready for the workday?

2. Offer a refundable tax credit to blacks (and others) whose do don't do for them what they want it to do?

3. Require sensitivity training to all of us with good hair (who started our work day at 9am) that teaches us to say nice things about the hair of black folks? A couple of fist bumps, say "yo bro, that hair be looking good" or the like?

Jesu Christo... I have a black woman that works for me. Over the past three years, she has had dreads, straight hair, a (I presume) wig, and an Afro. You know what? I don't give a f*#k because she does her freaking job, is professional, and does not play the race/victim card. She's just a good employee. If you have to worry about how people perceive you regarding your hair, it probably means you are a **** employee and need yet another victim card in your deck to excuse the fact you suck at life. This country is fx#cked.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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I don't think they're asking for some special treatment

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They literally are.

Its a dumb law anyway. How would a person even prove that they were discriminated against due to their hair?

This is just going to lead to excess litigation

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It could be their go to in the event they are demoted or fired or not promoted. Something about their work performance could be the reason for those things but they can always say it was because somebody hated their hair. Hold their hand out and say "pay me."

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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You know, conservatives don't HAVE to be *******s, right?

I can just roll out of bed and look 'professional'. But blacks have hair that isn't naturally accepted as 'professional' so they do have to spend a lot of time, effort, money to straighten their hair or buy wigs, etc. You were born with an opportunity they just don't have. I don't think they're asking for some special treatment, just the opportunity to spend as little effort on their hair as you do.

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One thing i've discovered when I'm interviewing people:

If they have corn rows, they are generally not employable. And i'm saying this as a black(ish) guy. So I'm going out on a limb and saying you probably don't know what the **** you're talking about.

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Hey Doc, it seems you're a minority; if so, how dare you stand in the way of Esteban du Plantier's mission to SAVE YOU (from you???)!!!

Don't you get it? As a "black(ish)" person, YOU are incapable of: taking care of yourself, realizing meritorious achievements through your own hard work & devotion, &/or avoid becoming a victim, including generational trauma, due to 'systemic racism' & widespread 'white supremacy' without Esteban du Plantier's help & virtue signaling!!!

THEY, & OTHER LIBERALS, ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN SAVE YOU!!!

** And I must add: "Signs, signs, everywhere are signs..."

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A. G. Pennypacker said:

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I can't imagine spending an hour a day just styling my hair. Glad I'm a dude and can just shower and run a comb or a brush through it.

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Literally the only good thing about being bald is you don't have to put 2 seconds a day into your hair.

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Now that I'm retired, I don't have to put ANY time into my hair [which is thinning] or my beard.
And the cats don't care, as long as I feed them in morning and evening.

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Ugly people are the most discriminated people in this country. Change my mind.

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Don't matter where you are, do you represent yo city?

Wiggy wiggy wiggy wiggy wiggy

insulator_king said:

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ts5641 said:

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A. G. Pennypacker said:

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I can't imagine spending an hour a day just styling my hair. Glad I'm a dude and can just shower and run a comb or a brush through it.

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Literally the only good thing about being bald is you don't have to put 2 seconds a day into your hair.

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Now that I'm retired, I don't have to put ANY time into my hair [which is thinning] or my beard.
And the cats don't care, as long as I feed them in morning and evening.

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The Hubs is retired. I am not a cat. He has a full head of hair, not even gray at 67 but I don't care. He could go full 'stache and beard which are gray and grow his hair down his back. Don't care, if he is happy.

But he is his father's son. His Dad was retired AF. Hair long enough for a ponytail is too "girly" for him. Fine with me as well.

BUT would draw the line at a Man Bun. THAT I would not accept.