Teslag said:

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If you think liberals are pissed now wait until the VRA is gutted and we pick up 19 more seats in further redistricting across the south.

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That will be negated. Cali will pick up 8 more seats if their map sticks. That leaves 11. Virginia will pick up another 4 when they remap. That leaves 7. They have 21 left to take and they will take them.

'I've said it many times. If it weren't for double standards democrats would have no standards at all.'

Logos Stick said:

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Teslag said:

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If you think liberals are pissed now wait until the VRA is gutted and we pick up 19 more seats in further redistricting across the south.

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That will be negated. Cali will pick up 8 more seats if their map sticks. That leaves 11. Virginia will pick up another 4 when they remap. That leaves 7. They have 21 left to take and they will take them.

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You're forgetting to include the additional GOP seats gained from redistricting prior to the VRA being tossed.

The additional 19 is on top of Texas redistricting today along with the other red states currently changing as well.

Gutting the VRA virtually guarantees a GOP house for a generation or more and there's nothing the democrats can do about it.

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Clavell said:

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In my perfect world every ten years a computer would pick the districts in every state based on equal population and no gerrymandering. No other criteria.

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Which computer program do we use? TikTok? ChatGPT? Dominion?

Any computer must be programmed… by a human. You have to tell it what parameters to make the decision on. Those parameters will always introduce bias.

I don't know what the answer is but it's simply not as simple as having a computer do it.

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It can be done ... use equal pop requirements, maybe use compactness measurements, maybe use a county line rule to minimize county splitting. Maybe even introduce city limit splitting rules. Eliminate all racial and election data until post enactment for research purposes only.

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I absolutely agree it can be done and should be done. But the sausage making will be... difficult.

Article 1 Section 4 leaves it very vague but also very clear that the states have authority to setup the districts as they see fit. This of course is subject to subsequent laws like the VRA, but a federal mandate of how districting should be done would be at odds with the constitution in many respects.

Its not about what I or we want, its limited by what actually can and cannot be done.

pdc093 said:

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'I've said it many times. If it weren't for double standards democrats would have no standards at all.'

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I was reminded today of the origination of the term.

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The Term "Gerrymander" (1812): Coined in Massachusetts after Governor Elbridge Gerry's party created a partisan, salamander-shaped state Senate district.

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Logos Stick said:

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Teslag said:

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If you think liberals are pissed now wait until the VRA is gutted and we pick up 19 more seats in further redistricting across the south.

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That will be negated. Cali will pick up 8 more seats if their map sticks. That leaves 11. Virginia will pick up another 4 when they remap. That leaves 7. They have 21 left to take and they will take them.

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19-8=11-4=7 and 21

You lost me.

Pretty good, measured discussion here.

Net: I think predictions of the GOP facing a bloodbath next year are…just wildly premature. I'm not ready to predict the GOP expands control in the Senate/House, but it seems quite plausible at this point.

Trump needs to be very effective with the messaging on "affordability". Dems are in full gaslighting mode on the economy and the impact of Trump's policies.

Heck, even folks here ***** and moan endlessly on tariffs, jobs, housing, gas (even though its down), etc.

If he is effective, they will quickly pivot to racism. Be wary of the false flags in June 2026. Another summer of love will be put in to play if the polling calls for it.

🚨 BREAKING: Supreme Court hands Republicans a redistricting win by striking down lower court block on Texas map pic.twitter.com/0V9MXFzRCv

— Fox News (@FoxNews) April 27, 2026