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HTownAg98 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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If that gets reciprocal treatment, does texags count as social media? Asking for a friend.

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If that's the case, some of yall are going to be banned from international travel.

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so be it.

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Yeah, screw that. This past summer I got to stand on top of Pointe du Hoc, visit Omaha Beach, and hear a US Army band play the Star-Spangled Banner at The Garden of the Missing at the Normandy American Cemetery (btw, they like Americans as much as they're own countrymen there in that part of France). If I were denied that opportunity because France didn't like that I called Macron a scumbucket on some college fan site, I'd be pretty damn pissed. Likewise, if someone wanted to visit here and see our sites, and were denied because they called Trump, Cheeto Khrushchev, or Hillary Clinton, GCF, they'd be pretty pissed off too.
This policy is dumb.

Correct, the countries that have visa waivers don't have to do a visa process. But most countries do. Including all of Latin America, if I am not mistaken. I also think a few countries have been dropped from the list over the last few years.

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RGV AG said:

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Gotta have a visa to be a tourist......it all starts with the same process.

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So tourists to the US from every country in the world have to get an advance visa to enter? Technically the stamp you get on your passport is a visa, but this is literally a 'rubber stamp' for anyone from a first world country not flagged in our system. Unless this has been radically changed and I'm not aware of it.

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No, it's the same. Just like if you have a DUI/DWI you can be denied entry into Canada.

RGV AG said:

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Correct, the countries that have visa waivers don't have to do a visa process. But most countries do. Including all of Latin America, if I am not mistaken. I also think a few countries have been dropped from the list over the last few years.

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Substantial experience in Latin America. The first tourist visa is the hard one. You have to show proof of employment and/or sufficient assets to demonstrate that you'll return back to the country of origin (won't overstay). And pass some criminal checks.

After that though, once you are 'In', renewing a tourist Visa to the United States is super easy. Since a few years ago, you no longer even have to go in person to the consulate. Just mail in the application, pay the required fees on-line, and it will show up within a few weeks at your house.

HTownAg98 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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If that gets reciprocal treatment, does texags count as social media? Asking for a friend.

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If that's the case, some of yall are going to be banned from international travel.

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Oh no

BigRobSA said:

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Just.....no.

This is so stupid, and thought up by people that have zero clue wtf they're even proposing and/or doing.

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Essentially creating a major black market in minutes. With AI, bots, and the rest, you don't think they'd have new "fake identities" overnight?

2025 version of a fake idea but done at scale instantaneously once set up lol

What if I hate someone and create a fake identity on twitter as that person and hate on Trump and go DTA! Allah o Akbar... what happens then?

HTownAg98 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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If that gets reciprocal treatment, does texags count as social media? Asking for a friend.

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If that's the case, some of yall are going to be banned from international travel.

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Dammit, it was all just a joke!

RGV AG said:

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Gotta have a visa to be a tourist......it all starts with the same process.

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I think he means work or student visa. An immigrant seeking long-term residency.

lb3 said:

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This is bad. It may be targeting terrorism now but when the Dems get in power they'll use it to ban anyone that doesn't have their pronouns prominently displayed on their webpage.

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Thats how it works. Each side simply stretches their power little by little and the only ones that suffer are the citizens themselves

What about these guys?

No social media postings. Just big harmless banners. What if they get cancer and need treatment from Sloan Kettering in NYC?

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Substantial experience in Latin America. The first tourist visa is the hard one. You have to show proof of employment and/or sufficient assets to demonstrate that you'll return back to the country of origin (won't overstay). And pass some criminal checks.

After that though, once you are 'In', renewing a tourist Visa to the United States is super easy. Since a few years ago, you no longer even have to go in person to the consulate. Just mail in the application, pay the required fees on-line, and it will show up within a few weeks at your house.

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It was like you describe for many, many years in several countries. But since covid the embassies/consulates have started having some renewals return for interviews and basically re-prove everything. It is more in some countries and less in others. For the most part Mexico was a rubber stamp deal on the renewal, but not anymore. In 2022 a former employee of mine had her renewal rejected after more than 30 years with a border crosser card and then laser visa. No reason given, just a notice to reapply again, which she did about 6 months later and they gave her a new one. Yet her sisters, whose visa renewal was the same day and they submitted together were both approved.

I have spent most of my life living and working outside of the US, primarily in Mex, Central America, and a few years in the Caribbean. The visa deal for visitors was pretty mainstream for a while but it has gotten uncertain again. I did my passport renewals at embassies, for the last 2, and this last one was a PIA when it used to be easy and fast. Based on experiences I am not a fan of the embassies and thank the Lord I don't have to deal with getting a visa.

I know many here have "concerns" but I am all for this, provided it is done correctly.

We don't want H1Bs but we do want tourists who will come here, spend money and GTFO. We don't want trouble-makers. So I don't give a damn about their privacy. I also don't want crazy America haters or Jew haters here either.

I support Trump on this. Just do it right, don't make a hash of it like Empty-Headed Eccentric Elon did with DOGE.

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If any of you all espeaka the spanish, this is what getting a US visitors visa is like in LatAm. This is actually much closer to reality than it is parody. I don't know how to have youtube translate it, but it is hilarious and actually very representative of the visa getting process.

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Click on the cog icon, then choose English for subtitle language

So...way more restrictive than China. Yeah, this is great.

HTownAg98 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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If that gets reciprocal treatment, does texags count as social media? Asking for a friend.

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If that's the case, some of yall are going to be banned from international travel.

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Not from Poland or Hungary. The rest of Europe is a cesspool now. Just a relic of a past great civilization. Won't be long until the statues, churches and art start being demolished.

Good! If they hate America, **** them! We don't need them here.

valvemonkey91 said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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If that gets reciprocal treatment, does texags count as social media? Asking for a friend.

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If that's the case, some of yall are going to be banned from international travel.

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Not from Poland or Hungary. The rest of Europe is a cesspool now. Just a relic of a past great civilization. Won't be long until the statues, churches and art start being demolished.

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133 churches in Canada burned in last 5 or so years

Churches are under attack in Britain already

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2043241/panic-britains-churches-hit-horror-crimes-silver

France churches are burning down

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/frances-churches-are-burning-and-no-one-seems-to-care/

HTownAg98 said:

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NE PA Ag said:

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RGV AG said:

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Gotta have a visa to be a tourist......it all starts with the same process.

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So tourists to the US from every country in the world have to get an advance visa to enter? Technically the stamp you get on your passport is a visa, but this is literally a 'rubber stamp' for anyone from a first world country not flagged in our system. Unless this has been radically changed and I'm not aware of it.

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No, it's the same. Just like if you have a DUI/DWI you can be denied entry into Canada.

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For that, don't they mainly just run a records check?

I doubt that our posts on TexAgs shows up in our criminal records.

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TyHolden said:

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They already have all of your social media and search history....
They also have all of your phone texts....
Very cheap to store and retrieve all of this...

This is just to make it legal to use it....

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Oh ok, all good then!

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Your social media history is in the public domain. Just an FYI.

infinity ag said:

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What about these guys?

No social media postings. Just big harmless banners. What if they get cancer and need treatment from Sloan Kettering in NYC?

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They can get in if they travel in small speedboats from Venezuela.

ETFan said:

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TyHolden said:

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They already have all of your social media and search history....
They also have all of your phone texts....
Very cheap to store and retrieve all of this...

This is just to make it legal to use it....

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Oh ok, all good then!

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They are using it NOW as we speak. Wake up.

Nothing you do is really private.

infinity ag said:

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I know many here have "concerns" but I am all for this, provided it is done correctly.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



*****breathe*****




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It's govt....it won't be. It's basically impossible and completely unnecessary, nor a good idea, in the first place. But govt could burn water.

BigRobSA said:

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infinity ag said:

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I know many here have "concerns" but I am all for this, provided it is done correctly.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



*****breathe*****




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It's govt....it won't be. It's basically impossible and completely unnecessary, nor a good idea, in the first place. But govt could burn water.

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You beat me to it. This can't be done right and frankly shouldn't be attempted.

He is/was on the right track just banning people from certain countries. Continue with our now closed southern border, ban people from ****hole countries outright, and make the legal immigration path more onerous.

In no way is there any sort of waste, fraud, or abuse in something like this.

This is what some of you voted for, right?!?!

army01 said:

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In no way is there any sort of waste, fraud, or abuse in something like this.

This is what some of you voted for, right?!?!

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I voted for closing the border and reversing Democrat insanity. Trump has largely done that with some notable stupid exceptions like this one.

Still better than any Democrat.

infinity ag said:

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I know many here have "concerns" but I am all for this, provided it is done correctly.

We don't want H1Bs but we do want tourists who will come here, spend money and GTFO. We don't want trouble-makers. So I don't give a damn about their privacy. I also don't want crazy America haters or Jew haters here either.

I support Trump on this. Just do it right, don't make a hash of it like Empty-Headed Eccentric Elon did with DOGE.

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wife is a foreigner. We live in Latin America. She takes 3-day shopping trips up to places like Miami or Houston and drops several thousand dollars of dollars. She orders stuff from Amazon like a drug addict and has it shipped to our door via DHL.

is doing her part every year to contribute to ya'lls 401(k)s and other investments while running up our credit card.

If Donald Trump were to do anything to disrupt the ability of people like my wife to spend money on U.S. goods and services, he would be a serious dumbass.

Best to just keep renewing her tourist visa every few years easy peasy, say thank you for her service, and let her be on her way.

Sadly a lotta folks have no true idea about LatAm and the US revenue that is generated via all kinds of business and a substantial portion via just shopping, like you aptly mention.

For many years during the 90's the main mall in McAllen sold more $$ per FT2 than any other mall in the US. It is still pretty stout, but not like it was dur to local competition.

I know for a fact that in the late 90s over 50% of property taxes paid from properties on SPI were paid for forieng owner, mainly Mex. Prolly a little less now due to the travel issues in Mex, but still substantial.

Miami has huge foreign property ownership. And so does Coronado near San Diego. Free spending tourists are a big boon for the US.

I feel bad for people who have to undergo this because some other people got greedy and misused and violated the system. Maybe there is no other way to do this more humanely than to lock people out. A better way would be to give people time to wind up and leave and severe punishment if they did not. Now some folks like this have houses, cars and property in the US and cannot go back.

Why I feel sad for these folks I don't know. When they don't feel sad for us here who lost our jobs and college admits to them over the decades and then getting gas-lit saying we are not good enough and have no skills.

Oh well. Maybe there is no other way out.

This was posted 2 days ago.

It's called suicidal empathy. The proper adult response would be to disdain them for what they have done to destroy lives here and support the administration that is trying to stop this multi-decade practice of destruction.

"Why I feel sad for these folks I don't know. When they don't feel sad for us here who lost our jobs and college admits to them over the decades and then getting gas-lit saying we are not good enough and have no skills."

japantiger said:

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It's called suicidal empathy. The proper adult response would be to disdain them for what they have done to destroy lives here and support the administration that is trying to stop this multi-decade practice of destruction.

"Why I feel sad for these folks I don't know. When they don't feel sad for us here who lost our jobs and college admits to them over the decades and then getting gas-lit saying we are not good enough and have no skills."

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I think you got the right word. I just looked it up.

They must all go. I fully support Trump in what he is doing and also how cleverly he is doing it to get around the resistance within the country.

I believe H1B rules make it illegal to work remotely, isn't it? I believe you have to be within 30 miles of your office address, so working from home while living within 30 miles is okay but going to India and working from there for long periods of time is not.

USCIS better crackdown on this abuse.

These crooks will start a new scam - Live in India (spend in Rupees) but earn in US Dollars (1 USD = 91 INR) and find some loophole to get away from paying taxes.

From Blind.

What would be the line in the sand here? I'm not really for this to begin with, but if such a policy exists, criticizing presidents or politicians should not be grounds for denying entry. That's normal political expression. We can't say Land of the Free with such a policy, in my opinion.

Showing radicalized hatred of the U.S. or the West, expressing sympathy for or support of terrorist organizations, or glorifying terrorist violence is a different matter entirely. That should absolutely trigger scrutiny and, in some cases, denial of entry.

The problem is that the line is thin and easy to blur. Who intimately is making the decision? Some clown from TSA at the airport? I've dealt with some really nice TSA agents, but also come across some absolute *******s on a power trip.

If the tourist visa process becomes too draconian or intrusive, plenty of potential visitors will simply take their money elsewhere on principle, which ultimately harms the U.S. more than it helps.