$900B Defense Spending Bill passed

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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/12/11/900-billion-ndaa-what-what-was-left-out-of-major-defense-spending-bill.html

Notable Inclusions:

-$400 million for Ukraine security assistance.

-Full funding for the deployment of National Guard and active-duty troops in support of border patrol at the United States' southwest border, including over $1 billion to fight drug trafficking ($398 million for Defense Department support of counter-narcotics operations and $216 million for National Guard counter-drug programs$100 million over the budget request).

-It prohibits the retirement of certain F-15E, A-10, C-130, E-3, RQ-4, and Grey Eagle aircraft, as well as the closure of the E-7A Wedgetail production line.

-Builds the "Golden Dome" to update national missile defense policy.

-It permanently repeals all existing Defense Department diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) offices, programs, training and activities, as well as future DEI-related endeavors.

-It cuts climate change-related programs at the Defense Department.

-It removes Section 1110, the bipartisan House provision that would have restored collective bargaining rights for the Defense Department's civilian workforce and would have prevented the department from using the bill's funds to enforce an executive order that strips collective bargaining rights from hundreds of thousands of DoD civilians.

Laughable that there were "climate change programs" in the first place
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-$400 million for Ukraine security assistance.

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While it's one of the few actually constitutional powers/jobs granted to the FedGov, we spend way too much. Last time I checked, we spend more than the next 17 other countries combined .That's ridiculous. We need to quit being everyone's policeman.
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"Lawmakers on Sunday evening unveiled the 3,086-page compromise bill, which authorizes $291 billion for operations and maintenance; $234 billion for military personnel and health care; $162 billion for procurement; and $146 billion for research and development, according to a GOP summary of the legislation. It also authorizes $54 billion for military construction and nuclear programs."

"The legislation would also repeal the legal justifications used to attack Iraq in 1991 and 2003. Congress adopted the 2002 authorization ahead of the March 2003 invasion of Iraq that led to the toppling of Saddam Hussein's regime. The 1991 authorization was approved during the Gulf War."

"The bill also repeals sanctions on Syria under the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019. "

Per CBS (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-ndaa-defense-policy-bill/

3000 page bills should be illegal, I wonder how much garbage they can sneak in there
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Still less than interest on the debt, which now stands at $1.1 trillion!
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Waste of $400M on Ukraine. Spend that in the Americas.

Still highly skeptical of the Golden Dome.

Ok with rest of those high level bullets.

Reserve right to get mad about it as we learn more since it's 3k pages.
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Again kids...as a reminder...

"Authorizations are not Appropriations."
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My pet peeve - dems and reps agreed to insist on right to repair in this bill. It is can be operationally critical at times and would save a LOT of money.

Killed at the last minute. $$$ is the language our pols always speak. Sure their checks are in the mail. Defense contractors suck.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Again kids...as a reminder...

"Authorizations are not Appropriations."



like congress won't give them what they authorized here..... bwaaaahahahahahahahahah... breathe ....... bwahaha

Defense spending in FY 2025 was $895 billion!!!
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Over_ed said:

My pet peeve - dems and reps agreed to insist on right to repair in this bill. It is can be operationally critical at times and would save a LOT of money.

Killed at the last minute. $$$ is the language our pols always speak. Sure their checks are in the mail. Defense contractors suck.

What does this mean?
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Yeah - my pet peeve was not very descriptive, sorry.

"Despite its popularity and broad bipartisan support, right-to-repair provisions that would have given service members the ability to fix their own equipment in the field were stripped from the compromise version of the 2026 defense policy bill after industry pushback. "

" While this is not the first time Congress has stripped right-to-repair language from the National Defense Authorization Act, the 2026 defense policy bill is likely the most high-profile attempt to block the reform this year, the proposal had gained momentum and wide support from the Trump administration, the House and Senate, and senior DoD leaders. "

In short, it means our pols were bought, again.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/congress/2025/12/congress-quietly-strips-right-to-repair-provisions-from-2026-ndaa-despite-wide-support/
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BigRobSA said:

While it's one of the few actually constitutional powers/jobs granted to the FedGov, we spend way too much. Last time I checked, we spend more than the next 17 other countries combined .That's ridiculous. We need to quit being everyone's policeman.


That's not even half the battle. Our procurement and upkeep programs are hideously broken. This has been one of the cases last decade or so and counting of where the absolute number of cash spent needs to take a backseat to HOW that money is spent, in discussion. At least if any real progress on reigning in the rampant waste. Or looking at it from the other perspective, extending how far our dollars go.

Course, not going to happen anytime soon. I don't think most people realize we are currently back in an arms race.
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No more hardware that can't, by contract, be repaired by dod personnel. Things like the LCSs come to.mind.
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Over_ed said:

Yeah - my pet peeve was not very descriptive, sorry.

"Despite its popularity and broad bipartisan support, right-to-repair provisions that would have given service members the ability to fix their own equipment in the field were stripped from the compromise version of the 2026 defense policy bill after industry pushback. "

" While this is not the first time Congress has stripped right-to-repair language from the National Defense Authorization Act, the 2026 defense policy bill is likely the most high-profile attempt to block the reform this year, the proposal had gained momentum and wide support from the Trump administration, the House and Senate, and senior DoD leaders. "

In short, it means our pols were bought, again.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/congress/2025/12/congress-quietly-strips-right-to-repair-provisions-from-2026-ndaa-despite-wide-support/


There's no other way to view it. Our pols indeed are profiteering from this decision to backpedal away from this. I was staying on top of this whole thing and it's disgusting how it was shot down. And I'm disgusted at myself for actually believing it had a chance in the first place. I should have known better.

There is no way we can justify locking away and gatekeeping critical infrastructure, equipment, and knowledge in our war fighting equipment when it is needed to keep our military fighting at its highest peak possible.

Remember this when you hear a politician drone on about how much they care and what they are doing for our warfighters. This spits on the very face of that.
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Ag_of_08 said:

No more hardware that can't, by contract, be repaired by dod personnel. Things like the LCSs come to.mind.


Most of the F35 propulsion system as well
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I'm damned sick and tired of the US being involved in everyone else's grab ass conflicts.
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Eliminatus said:

BigRobSA said:

While it's one of the few actually constitutional powers/jobs granted to the FedGov, we spend way too much. Last time I checked, we spend more than the next 17 other countries combined .That's ridiculous. We need to quit being everyone's policeman.


That's not even half the battle. Our procurement and upkeep programs are hideously broken. This has been one of the cases last decade or so and counting of where the absolute number of cash spent needs to take a backseat to HOW that money is spent, in discussion. At least if any real progress on reigning in the rampant waste. Or looking at it from the other perspective, extending how far our dollars go.

Course, not going to happen anytime soon. I don't think most people realize we are currently back in an arms race.

Ok, I agree, whatever the problem is, fix it....except I would have used the proper spelling...."reining" in. ;-)
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CDUB98 said:

I'm damned sick and tired of the US being involved in everyone else's grab ass conflicts.

BUT BUT BUT 400M is just a rounding error in the grand scheme of things!!
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I had the exact same faint hope, knowing that it was probably going to get cut again. First thing I looked up on seeing it passed.

They call it reinforcement learning, it reinforces my loathing for almost all pols.
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Over_ed said:

Yeah - my pet peeve was not very descriptive, sorry.

"Despite its popularity and broad bipartisan support, right-to-repair provisions that would have given service members the ability to fix their own equipment in the field were stripped from the compromise version of the 2026 defense policy bill after industry pushback. "

" While this is not the first time Congress has stripped right-to-repair language from the National Defense Authorization Act, the 2026 defense policy bill is likely the most high-profile attempt to block the reform this year, the proposal had gained momentum and wide support from the Trump administration, the House and Senate, and senior DoD leaders. "

In short, it means our pols were bought, again.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/congress/2025/12/congress-quietly-strips-right-to-repair-provisions-from-2026-ndaa-despite-wide-support/


Absolutely dumb and will get people killed at some point.
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Hoyt Ag said:

CDUB98 said:

I'm damned sick and tired of the US being involved in everyone else's grab ass conflicts.

BUT BUT BUT 400M is just a rounding error in the grand scheme of things!!


0.04% of the defense budget. Worth every penny.
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YouBet said:

Waste of $400M on Ukraine. Spend that in the Americas.

Still highly skeptical of the Golden Dome.

Ok with rest of those high level bullets.

Reserve right to get mad about it as we learn more since it's 3k pages.


I don't have any figures on what was authorized, but I would be shocked if much of that $400 million is spent anywhere besides America. At this point, nearly all of what we give is weapons and ammunition that are manufactured here by American companies. Sure, the end product gets used elsewhere, but the $s are staying here.
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txags92 said:

YouBet said:

Waste of $400M on Ukraine. Spend that in the Americas.

Still highly skeptical of the Golden Dome.

Ok with rest of those high level bullets.

Reserve right to get mad about it as we learn more since it's 3k pages.


I don't have any figures on what was authorized, but I would be shocked if much of that $400 million is spent anywhere besides America. At this point, nearly all of what we give is weapons and ammunition that are manufactured here by American companies. Sure, the end product gets used elsewhere, but the $s are staying here.

Doesn't make it a single bit better.

Govt spending is govt spending.
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Over_ed said:

Yeah - my pet peeve was not very descriptive, sorry.

"Despite its popularity and broad bipartisan support, right-to-repair provisions that would have given service members the ability to fix their own equipment in the field were stripped from the compromise version of the 2026 defense policy bill after industry pushback. "

" While this is not the first time Congress has stripped right-to-repair language from the National Defense Authorization Act, the 2026 defense policy bill is likely the most high-profile attempt to block the reform this year, the proposal had gained momentum and wide support from the Trump administration, the House and Senate, and senior DoD leaders. "

In short, it means our pols were bought, again.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/congress/2025/12/congress-quietly-strips-right-to-repair-provisions-from-2026-ndaa-despite-wide-support/


Goodness that is insane policy right there.

Eisenhower from the grave: I told you so.
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BigRobSA said:

txags92 said:

YouBet said:

Waste of $400M on Ukraine. Spend that in the Americas.

Still highly skeptical of the Golden Dome.

Ok with rest of those high level bullets.

Reserve right to get mad about it as we learn more since it's 3k pages.


I don't have any figures on what was authorized, but I would be shocked if much of that $400 million is spent anywhere besides America. At this point, nearly all of what we give is weapons and ammunition that are manufactured here by American companies. Sure, the end product gets used elsewhere, but the $s are staying here.

Doesn't make it a single bit better.

Govt spending is govt spending.

I was responding to his complaint about where it was spent, not whether it was spent at all.
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What did DOGE say needed to be cut? Wait………did DOGE ever get to deep dive into the DoW?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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$600,000,000 to Israel btw
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BQ2017 said:

$600,000,000 to Israel btw

And that shouldn't be happening either.
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CDUB98 said:

I'm damned sick and tired of the US being involved in everyone else's grab ass conflicts.

Agreed.
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Disgusting that we have more proof America is THE paypig for both Ukraine and Israel.

American wealth yet again robbed to enrich foreign criminals.
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Mega Lops said:

Disgusting that we have more proof America is THE paypig for both Ukraine and Israel.

American wealth yet again robbed to enrich foreign criminals.

Once again, the $400 million is not being sent to Ukraine as pallets of cash. It is being spent in the US to buy equipment from US defense firms to supply equipment and ammo to Ukraine. No doubt there are criminals in Ukraine, but this strawman that we are sending cash to Ukraine like Obama did to Iran is just false.
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Biggest waste of money is the Golden Dome. The n+1 rule- our enemies only need to get one warhead through whatever shield we have. Conversely, our "dome" would need to interdict 100% of incoming warheads.

It's a losing proposition efficiency-wise and we know because of our observations of the iron dome in Israel. There are other paths to take in this instance, let's do one of them instead
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BigRobSA said:

While it's one of the few actually constitutional powers/jobs granted to the FedGov, we spend way too much. Last time I checked, we spend more than the next 17 other countries combined .That's ridiculous. We need to quit being everyone's policeman.

It's a bit misleading to look at the raw number. Defense spending is compared based on % of GDP. Our obligation to NATO is to spend 2% at minimum, we're currently at 3.4%, good for highest third globally. Still high, but not as insane as the raw numbers make it look

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?locations=US&most_recent_value_desc=true

If you want to see crazy numbers look at government health care spending as a percent of GDP compared to other countries, we are absolute highest by a wide margin

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/public-health-expenditure-share-gdp?country=SWE~FRA~DEU~JPN~GBR~ESP~AUS~NZL~CAN~USA
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Wish Russia would finish them off so we can move on
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PaulsBunions said:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/12/11/900-billion-ndaa-what-what-was-left-out-of-major-defense-spending-bill.html

Notable Inclusions:

-$400 million for Ukraine security assistance.

-Full funding for the deployment of National Guard and active-duty troops in support of border patrol at the United States' southwest border, including over $1 billion to fight drug trafficking ($398 million for Defense Department support of counter-narcotics operations and $216 million for National Guard counter-drug programs$100 million over the budget request).

-It prohibits the retirement of certain F-15E, A-10, C-130, E-3, RQ-4, and Grey Eagle aircraft, as well as the closure of the E-7A Wedgetail production line.

-Builds the "Golden Dome" to update national missile defense policy.

-It permanently repeals all existing Defense Department diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) offices, programs, training and activities, as well as future DEI-related endeavors.

-It cuts climate change-related programs at the Defense Department.

-It removes Section 1110, the bipartisan House provision that would have restored collective bargaining rights for the Defense Department's civilian workforce and would have prevented the department from using the bill's funds to enforce an executive order that strips collective bargaining rights from hundreds of thousands of DoD civilians.

Laughable that there were "climate change programs" in the first place

These two are worth anything else. Eliminating DEI one department at at time. I voted for this!
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