Four Antifa Arrested in Southern California Terror Plot

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TLDR version: the anti-capitalist/pro-Palestinian faction was planning to detonate IEDs during New Year's celebrations:
" Audrey Carroll, Zachary Page, Dante Gaffield and Tina Lai, all described as members of the anti-capitalist and anti-government group known as the "Turtle Island Liberation Front," face charges of conspiracy and possession of an unregistered destructive device in connection with the alleged plot. They were taken into custody last week in Lucerne Valley, near the desert city of Twentynine Palms, California, home to a Marine Corps base."
"… FBI a handwritten document titled "Operation Midnight Sun" in November that detailed the plot that described their alleged plans to plant backpacks with IEDs that would be simultaneously detonated at five locations targeting two U.S. companies at midnight on New Year's Eve."

"It included step-by-step instructions to build IEDs...and listed multiple targets across Orange County and Los Angeles," Essayli said."

" In a search of Carroll's residence, investigators uncovered posters and materials associated with TILF including one reading "DEATH TO ICE" and another reading "DEATH TO AMERICA, LONG LIVE TURTLE ISLAND & PALESTINE."
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https://abc7.com/post/4-charged-plotting-new-years-eve-attacks-southern-california-prosecutors-say/18289022/
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Impossible. Antifa is just an idea.

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If it's not antifa at this point, it is bound to be another group. A mass terrorist event is not a question of "if," but more of a "when" it will happen. Thanks democrats for the open border.
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Authorities said there are more members of the group but that they believe they've arrested all the members who were specifically involved in the alleged plot.

Designate them a terrorist organization. Arrest them all. Send them to FPMITAP for life.
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The acronym for their organization is TILF. Reminded me of Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Authorities said there are more members of the group but that they believe they've arrested all the members who were specifically involved in the alleged plot.


Designate them a terrorist organization. Arrest them all. Send them to FPMITAP for life.

Totally agree with the sentiment, but they would probably like the PMITA part. Put 'em in solitary and feed 'em saltpeter.
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Happy to see them go after real bad guys instead of "nooses" in NASCAR garages.
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I went on a deep dive of this story, and this is pretty clearly a fake organization the FBI created to catch dumb, impressionable lefties. The name of the group was first used in 2021 by an indie game developer as the background info for a character in their game. Outside of that, the only other mention of this group is a 6 month old instagram account with a ton of generic far-left rhetoric posts and a single video of a supposed member who is masked and spouting generic far-left rhetoric.

Notice the video of them bomb making has 6-7 people within view, but only 4 were arrested. I'm sure this went along the lines of a few FBI agents hitting up discord to convince a few loons to put rhetoric into action, then supplied them the means and venue to get caught. Certainly glad they got these idiots, but hardly a coordinated criminal conspiracy. Makes nice headlines though.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Terrorists can rot in prison.
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

I went on a deep dive of this story, and this is pretty clearly a fake organization the FBI created to catch dumb, impressionable lefties. The name of the group was first used in 2021 by an indie game developer as the background info for a character in their game. Outside of that, the only other mention of this group is a 6 month old instagram account with a ton of generic far-left rhetoric posts and a single video of a supposed member who is masked and spouting generic far-left rhetoric.

Notice the video of them bomb making has 6-7 people within view, but only 4 were arrested. I'm sure this went along the lines of a few FBI agents hitting up discord to convince a few loons to put rhetoric into action, then supplied them the means and venue to get caught. Certainly glad they got these idiots, but hardly a coordinated criminal conspiracy. Makes nice headlines though.

This was my take too.

I'm not cool with the FBI goading idiots into being idiots.

One argument is that these headlines give people that are on the fence a small pause, but I'm still not cool with the FBI pretty much facilitating these things.

It wasn't right when they did it on Jan 6th. It's not right that they do it with these idiots.

One thing about Jan 6th though, no one that was arrested actually brought bombs, and the people that did bring bombs had nothing to do with the protest.
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Unfortunately we've let in so many terrorists under the biden regime this will continue to happen until they're successful. But hey, they got some extra votes...
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I'm guessing "Turtle Island Liberation Front" is a reference to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Island

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Turtle Island is a name for Earth or North America, used by some American Indigenous Peoples, as well as by some Indigenous rights activists.

edit - Just read the post about it being a fake FBI group. I can totally see an FBI agent coming up with the name "TILF". I image that also has a different meaning I don't want to know.
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ts5641 said:

Unfortunately we've let in so many terrorists under the biden regime this will continue to happen until they're successful. But hey, they got some extra votes...
These appear to be home grown.
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The FBI playbook has always been about inducing scenarios to encourage weak people to commit crimes.

There's no way to be sure these limp wrist antifa weirdos would have ever left video gaming in the basement if the FBI hadn't nudged them over via game chat or discord.

Just like Jan 6 as previously mentioned.
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torrid said:

I'm guessing "Turtle Island Liberation Front" is a reference to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Island

Quote:

Turtle Island is a name for Earth or North America, used by some American Indigenous Peoples, as well as by some Indigenous rights activists.

edit - Just read the post about it being a fake FBI group. I can totally see an FBI agent coming up with the name "TILF". I image that also has a different meaning I don't want to know.

Tia?
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Ag with kids said:

torrid said:

I'm guessing "Turtle Island Liberation Front" is a reference to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Island

Quote:

Turtle Island is a name for Earth or North America, used by some American Indigenous Peoples, as well as by some Indigenous rights activists.

edit - Just read the post about it being a fake FBI group. I can totally see an FBI agent coming up with the name "TILF". I image that also has a different meaning I don't want to know.

Tia?

If she looks like Selma Hayek...
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This is what our FBI has become.

Go onto Discord and create a fake group to lure young adults into a garage "bomb" making session, then arrest them and tell the media that it is a massive terrorist organization with ties to ANTIFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kash is such a stud.
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knoxtom said:

This is what our FBI has become been.

Go onto Discord and create a fake group to lure young adults into a garage "bomb" making session, then arrest them and tell the media that it is a massive terrorist organization with ties to ANTIFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kash is such a stud.

FIFY
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FBI Agent: Let's find some people we can entice to do crime! Oh look, a dude playing video games in his mom's basement!
Loser in his mom's basement: Go away, I'm batin'
FBI Agent: But wouldn't doing crimes be so much more fun? LET'S DO CRIMES!

FBI Special Agent in Charge: WE GOT 'EM
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and if the FBI did nothing and they set off bombs in Cali...

the dummies claiming this is a false flag government op

would be the FIRST ones to condemn Kash and FBI for incompetence at stopping terrorist attacks!
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Obviously not a fan of the FBI baiting people, if that is the case here which we do not know.

It's a tough call. We know the left are all crazy and that they do stuff like this and will continue to do so.

I guess all we can hope is that this is legit (weirdly) and that the FBI is not wasting resources on baiting people.
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Does anyone think we will have a terror attack on NYE?
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Considering everything going on I bet the odds are higher than they've been in a long time. You know Iran is looking for some revenge.

Thankfully, I'm long past caring about NYE partying. We don't leave the house on that night.
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Logos Stick said:

Does anyone think we will have a terror attack on NYE?
France does. They cancelled outdoor celebrations over there.
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esteban
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The FBI does this to both sides, btw. Remember the guys who allegedly planned to kidnap the governor of Michigan?

In cases like these, it's safest to assume entrapment until the government can prove otherwise.
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Many of the publicized "thwarted" islamist terror attacks in the US have gone down the same way. For example, the guy who was supposedly about to blow up a van in Times Square many years ago was being groomed and coached by an undercover FBI agent. There was never really a risk to anyone that he could actually carry the plot out. It made good headlines though.
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esteban said:

The FBI does this to both sides, btw. Remember the guys who allegedly planned to kidnap the governor of Michigan?

In cases like these, it's safest to assume entrapment until the government can prove otherwise.


Entrapment is probably not what you think it is. Offering someone an opportunity to commit a crime (solicitation) is not entrapment. Inducing them (convincing) or coercing them is entrapment.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-645-entrapment-elements
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It's BEYOND concerning when we KNOW there are supporters & sympathizer members of Congress.

The media goes out of their WAY to turn a blind eye, leaving thr public vulnerable and exposed.

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knoxtom said:

This is what our FBI has become.

Go onto Discord and create a fake group to lure young adults into a garage "bomb" making session, then arrest them and tell the media that it is a massive terrorist organization with ties to ANTIFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kash is such a stud.

Must have missed your outrage when the FBI concocted the Whitmer kidnapping hoax.
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Who let's their associates convince them to build a bomb to blow up buildings or people? Stupid criminals.

Can't fix stupid. Jail is a good place for these fools.
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bobbranco said:

Who let's their associates convince them to build a bomb to blow up buildings or people? Stupid criminals.

Can't fix stupid. Jail is a good place for these fools.

Well, that whole concept was complete conjecture by a poster above.




Proof that people will just buy all sorts of **** if it's just posted on the internet.
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Ag with kids said:

bobbranco said:

Who let's their associates convince them to build a bomb to blow up buildings or people? Stupid criminals.

Can't fix stupid. Jail is a good place for these fools.

Well, that whole concept was complete conjecture by a poster above.




Proof that people will just buy all sorts of **** if it's just posted on the internet.

LOL.

Or believe false prophets, whether a stoner friend, a self righteous buffoon, or a Fed. Take your pick.
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UTExan said:

esteban said:

The FBI does this to both sides, btw. Remember the guys who allegedly planned to kidnap the governor of Michigan?

In cases like these, it's safest to assume entrapment until the government can prove otherwise.


Entrapment is probably not what you think it is. Offering someone an opportunity to commit a crime (solicitation) is not entrapment. Inducing them (convincing) or coercing them is entrapment.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-645-entrapment-elements
You're not wrong, but I have no reason to believe that they weren't induced or coerced until the FBI can prove otherwise.
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Trantifa

The left have given the trans loons the right to kill whoever they want.
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