Why no discouragement campaign from Muslims?

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If there was anyone who could turn a Muslim expression of devoutness or retribution, into an expression of cowardess, it would be guys like this. There is arguably no more influential force among young Muslims vulnerable to radicalization, than Khabib and others in that circle.

There is little to no denouncing going on within. Khabib once commented on a local tragedy by saying: "educating souls is more important than educating bodies"

What does this tell us? It tells us that Muslims see these terrorists attacks as purposeful noble attempts to educate or convert, but with the wrong or ineffective method.

Muslims simply dont actually view these tragedies as senseless cowardly acts. Its why they persist in Islam, unlike any other religion. Until that is recognized or addressed, they will continue. It has to be made "uncool" for a Muslim with nothing to lose to go out with a bang. In the meantime, libs banning guns only makes their job easier and distracts from the root cause.

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FobTies said:

If there was anyone who could turn a Muslim expression of devoutness or retribution, into an expression of cowardess, it would be guys like this. There is arguably no more influential force among young Muslims vulnerable to radicalization, than Khabib and others in that circle.

There is little to no denouncing going on within. Khabib once commented on a local tragedy by saying: "educating souls is more important than educating bodies"

What does this tell us? It tells us that Muslims see these terrorists attacks as purposeful noble attempts to educate or convert, but with the wrong or ineffective method.

Muslims simply dont actually view these tragedies as senseless cowardly acts. Its why they persist in Islam, unlike any other religion. Until that is recognized or addressed, they will continue. It has to be made "uncool" for a Muslim with nothing to lose to go out with a bang. In the meantime, libs banning guns only makes their job easier and distracts from the root cause.




Who are these ugly people?
Bearded Neanderthals are prettier.

With Muslims/Islam it is simple. They want to convert the whole world to Islam, by force or by killing. It's written in their Koran and Prophet Mohammad also demanded it. So it is set in stone.

The bad Muslims do the terrorism, murder and killing. The "good" Muslims provide them with the cover and defend them by playing victim and saying "Islam means peace" and "we love everyone" and "Islam does not condone killing, killing 1 is like killing humanity!". White liberals fall for these lies.

Koran says different things at different times, most contradicting. One verse says kill all non Muslims. The other says:

rab79
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Because rank and file muslims don't want to kill you, they just want radical muslims to kill you.
FobTies
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They are the people that are on the walls and screen savers of the next terrorist planning to kill infidels.

This isnt a thread about who matters to any of us, or who can change our minds. Its about who can get thru to disenfranchised Muslim youth, why they havent stepped up to the plate, and what can be done to fix it.
infinity ag
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FobTies said:

They are the people that are on the walls and screen savers of the next terrorist planning to kill infidels.

This isnt a thread about who matters to any of us, or who can change our minds. Its about who can get thru to disenfranchised Muslim youth, why they havent stepped up to the plate, and what can be done to fix it.


OK. I updated my earlier post, maybe it has my take on it? If not, let me know.
AozorAg
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You know why
BadMoonRisin
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It's simple to reconcile this with the fact that they don't see infidels as humans or innocent.
Texmid
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What do the numbers mean? Is the one on the left the number of goats and the one on the right little boys?
FobTies
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Michael Jordan, for example, could end the transing of youth and trans in women's sports with one public statement. It would become unfashionable and uncool overnight. Millions would become ashamed they ever supported it. Millions more would feel empowered to speak out against it.

The same would happen if Kahbib and couple others put out a similar forcefull message denigrating Muslim terrorists making that "uncool".

Thats really the point here. No amount of ranting from Christians, or any posts from Musk, Rogan, or Trump is gonna change anything.

Its all useless until a major prominent Muslim figure steps up to the plate. There is a very niche brand of Muslim extremist who actually carry out these acts, and a corresponding niche solution.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
FobTies
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^

Exactly. This should be the ONLY drumbeat. Imagine if the calls for gun control were replaced with a pressure campaign against all the role models who wear Islam on their sleave.
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rab79 said:

Because rank and file muslims don't want to kill you, they just want radical muslims to kill you.


Threads over, folks. Shut it down.
annie88
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I don't think they really disagree with them. Even though many of them say they do. They say the religion is hijacked. I'm just not sure if you deep down they believe that.

I mean, they still do the same stuff regarding the way they treat women and children and others who are not Muslim.
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rocky the dog said:



It's weirdit's almost as if those folks don't want to be killer themselves by the same terrorists that share their peaceful religion…
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Texmid said:

What do the numbers mean? Is the one on the left the number of goats and the one on the right little boys?


More like the number of seconds it would take any of them to humiliate and/or kill any college/NFL player in a ring/cage/mat/backyard, etc.
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Quote:

Koran says different things at different times, most contradicting. One verse says kill all non Muslims. The other says:



It's not contradicting if you exclude "innocent" from being able to be applied to any non-Muslim.
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You know when you think about it, our media is so chickensheet, so complicit in our demise. Why don't they stick a camera in front of Inman,set up shop on Mosque parking lot and ask their opinion of terrorist killings. Media would be all over some Jewish rabbi or Christian preacher for scandals.
Media is trash . Scum. And when the enemy takes over, they will be first to go.
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Jihad and slaughtering infidels, especially in 'dar al harb' (vs. dar al islam) are key doctrines in Islam. People not living under the religion of 'peace' have to be converted/subjugated or conquered.

Not sure why anyone doesn't comprehend this at this point.
FobTies
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Scotty Appleton said:

Texmid said:

What do the numbers mean? Is the one on the left the number of goats and the one on the right little boys?


More like the number of seconds it would take any of them to humiliate and/or kill any college/NFL player in a ring/cage/mat/backyard, etc.

Thats a bit too far. They are bad azzes for sure, but plenty NFL O-line players would destroy most of them.

Khabib is 5'10" 155lbs. Maybe a 350 pounder laying down on a mat. But in most other scenarios plenty of NFL players are gonna man handle Khabib. Even 250 linebackers could easily catch these guys with a hay maker before they could clinch.


texagbeliever
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Khabib is likely 170 outside of cuts. And he would likely destroy an NFL player. Remember that one small UFC fighter who got into a fight with the UT football player. Easily 70 lb difference.
El Gallo Blanco
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FobTies said:

Scotty Appleton said:

Texmid said:

What do the numbers mean? Is the one on the left the number of goats and the one on the right little boys?


More like the number of seconds it would take any of them to humiliate and/or kill any college/NFL player in a ring/cage/mat/backyard, etc.

Thats a bit too far. They are bad azzes for sure, but plenty NFL O-line players would destroy most of them.

Khabib is 5'10" 155lbs. Maybe a 350 pounder laying down on a mat. But in most other scenarios plenty of NFL players are gonna man handle Khabib. Even 250 linebackers could easily catch these guys with a hay maker before they could clinch.

Or...

FobTies
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texagbeliever said:

Khabib is likely 170 outside of cuts. And he would likely destroy an NFL player. Remember that one small UFC fighter who got into a fight with the UT football player. Easily 70 lb difference.

Dumb college players flexing on dudes they think are drunk randoms isnt really a good example. But I agree, just an averaged trained MMA fighter is prob gonna destroy almost every college and most NFL players. Still plenty of 250+ NFL players and amateur boxers that would KO Kahbib if they were prepared to fight a pro and could stay off the ground. Greg Hardy NFL D end, would prob KO Khabib inside 1 min. There is a reason weight classes exist.

Anyway....guess I derailed my own thread.
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'Why no discouragement campaign from Muslims?'


Scotty Appleton
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Khabib would annihilate Hardy. Go ask Cormier what would happen.
FobTies
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Scotty Appleton said:

Khabib would annihilate Hardy. Go ask Cormier what would happen.

In a wrestling match, for sure. Any modern heavyweight that has stepped into the octagon at the UFC level would dominate Khabib, short of a fluke take down and submission. Similar to how any heavyweight pro boxer would beat the best lightweight champ.

Kahbib is definitely a legend regardless....just wish he and others would speak out more forcefully against these so called "martyrs".
carl spacklers hat
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Their religion forbids it. HTH
infinity ag
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Phatbob said:

Quote:

Koran says different things at different times, most contradicting. One verse says kill all non Muslims. The other says:



It's not contradicting if you exclude "innocent" from being able to be applied to any non-Muslim.


That is a great point!
So basically the trick is "one innocent" actually means "one innocent Muslim", not "one innocent person".

I am sure all Muslims know this too but they put this out whenever Islam is attacked.

Islam is a well designed system for world domination. Prophet Muhammad was the world's greatest marketer.
LMCane
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nortex97 said:

Jihad and slaughtering infidels, especially in 'dar al harb' (vs. dar al islam) are key doctrines in Islam. People not living under the religion of 'peace' have to be converted/subjugated or conquered.

Not sure why anyone doesn't comprehend this at this point.

one would think that 1300 years of past history would be enough to teach people what political Islam looks like

but apparently not!!

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AxelFoley85
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Those guys, in particular Khabib, Islam and Khamzat could end all of our lives with their bare hands and it wouldn't be much of a fight. Nastiest collection of fighters in MMA.
Ellis Wyatt
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infinity Koran says different things at different times, most contradicting. One verse says kill all non Muslims. The other says: said:




That doesn't mean what you think it means.
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infinity ag
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Ellis Wyatt said:

infinity Koran says different things at different times, most contradicting. One verse says kill all non Muslims. The other says: said:




That doesn't mean what you think it means.


My point was Muslims put this point forward to "prove" that Islam means peace and no harm to non Muslims. The devil is in the details.
LMCane
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The Bee answers your question:

IIIHorn
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AxelFoley85 said:

Those guys, in particular Khabib, Islam and Khamzat could end all of our lives with their bare hands and it wouldn't be much of a fight. Nastiest collection of fighters in MMA.

What if you have a black belt in Taekwondon't?
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