SNAP for "real food"

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This EBT recipient says it's "not cool" that SNAP can now only be used to buy "real food."

I wish Tanya could have seen this. I would have loved to see her reaction.

https://notthebee.com/article/this-snap-recipient-is-angry-that-she-cant-buy-junk-food-in-her-state-anymore-whats-the-point-of-food-stamps-if-its-just-for-real-food?from_social=twitter&fbclid=IwVERFWAOxTN5zcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEey4rbyGksHfQHxLocEYty3gdB-4f8t9tqDt2xUvEFjDBwQ-XpR2ygUrlCOjM
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if you're 5 foot tall and weigh 300 pounds. We ought not pay for your pack of fudge rounds.
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Yep, there's a lot of stupid, selfish, and generally nasty people out there, and many of them are broke, often because they are such terrible people.

But they are the exception. Using one idiot to try to say anything about the wider population of SNAP recipients is lazy and meaningless.

But that said, I have no problem with limiting food assistance to foods that are smart choices.

Note also that it can't just be limited to scratch ingredients as some seem to think. Many people lack the skills, time, or facilities to cook scratch meals, not to mention once you get all the ingredients, it can cost a fortune.

But there are plenty of reasonable choices that require less prep in the frozen and canned aisles.
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I guess I'm missing the part where the OP used one idiot to try to say anything about the wider population of SNAP recipients.
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Reagan gave them cheese. You can eat that as is or use in Tanya recipes. That's the way to go.
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Do you have any evidence to back up your assertion that this lady is the exception? Because I don't think she is. That's your average SNAP recipient as best I can tell.
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My life experience that tells me that most people are decent, good people just trying to get by.

What's your evidence?
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Yeahhhhhhh. I going to guess that the woman in that video is pretty representative of the majority of people on SNAP, not the exception.

And don't have the time…. I don't have the time to cook scratch meals. I work, am a single dad, dad all my own yardwork, and cleaning. But I manage to find the time to do it several days a week.

And no one's saying SNAP recipients need to be able to whip up a French / Thai inspired fusion dish on a random Tuesday. But I'm sorry, very few people are too dumb to boil rice, throw some carrots and potatoes in the oven and cook a chicken breast on the stove.

And frankly if I'm going to be buying my family's and this ungrateful women's family's groceries than I'd prefer she have to be just as frugal as I am. I don't feel one iota of sadness that you can't go buy expensive and unhealthy crap on my dime because you're lazy.
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There's no reason life skills shouldn't be a part of public education. Cooking, budgeting, etc.
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Fake eyelashes and earbuds but she needs my tax dollars to pay for her junk food.
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AtomicActuator said:

Yep, there's a lot of stupid, selfish, and generally nasty people out there, and many of them are broke, often because they are such terrible people.

But they are the exception. Using one idiot to try to say anything about the wider population of SNAP recipients is lazy and meaningless.

But that said, I have no problem with limiting food assistance to foods that are smart choices.

Note also that it can't just be limited to scratch ingredients as some seem to think. Many people lack the skills, time, or facilities to cook scratch meals, not to mention once you get all the ingredients, it can cost a fortune.

But there are plenty of reasonable choices that require less prep in the frozen and canned aisles.

The combination of rice and beans provide all 9 essential amino acids to make a complete protein. Easy to cook too. That is all a SNAP recipient should be given. Maybe some broccoli.
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Queso1 said:

Fake eyelashes and earbuds but she needs my tax dollars to pay for her junk food.


Bro c'mon. She spent her money on that. She's supposed to spend your money on food. How's she supposed to get her nails done if she's spending her own money on junk food.
AtomicActuator
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I also said skills and facilities, not just time.
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People taking tax payer money shouldn't be able to vote for more tax payer money.
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AtomicActuator said:

I also said skills and facilities, not just time.


Can she read? The instructions to cook rice are handily included right there on the bag. And unless they're homeless they've got a stove and pot. Try harder.
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techno-ag said:

People taking tax payer money shouldn't be able to vote for more tax payer money.

Are you proposing an amendment or an unconstitutional order/law?
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AtomicActuator said:

techno-ag said:

People taking tax payer money shouldn't be able to vote for more tax payer money.

Are you proposing an amendment or an unconstitutional order/law?


I'm good with either.
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AtomicActuator said:

techno-ag said:

People taking tax payer money shouldn't be able to vote for more tax payer money.

Are you proposing an amendment or an unconstitutional order/law?

This is the way it always should have been. People have known for centuries republics can be destroyed once citizens realize they can vote for money from the treasury. We're no exception.
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The real problem with SNAP as it currently exists isn't that fatty LaTrasha is using her benefits to buy junk food and grape soda. It's that SNAP benefits are used as a secondary currency. If you can use SNAP benefits to buy just about anything, the lady at the weave shop will accept them as payment.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

AtomicActuator said:

I also said skills and facilities, not just time.


Can she read? The instructions to cook rice are handily included right there on the bag. And unless they're homeless they've got a stove and pot. Try harder.

Probably not - 21% of US adults are considered functionally illiterate in English, and of course a huge portion of those are going to benefits due to poor job prospects.
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AtomicActuator said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

AtomicActuator said:

I also said skills and facilities, not just time.


Can she read? The instructions to cook rice are handily included right there on the bag. And unless they're homeless they've got a stove and pot. Try harder.

Probably not - 21% of US adults are considered functionally illiterate in English, and of course a huge portion of those are going to benefits due to poor job prospects.
This has to be a troll. SNAP recipients are too dumb to know how to cook rice??? Something the entire 3rd world knows how to do?
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I was asked if "she" could read. And I'm saying this example of a person who lacks cooking skills is likely functionally illiterate, and the stats back that up.
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AtomicActuator said:

My life experience that tells me that most people are decent, good people just trying to get by.

What's your evidence?


I would just say I'd be willing to bet that I can pick them out in the grocery stores on certain days of the month with some degree of accuracy.
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AtomicActuator said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

AtomicActuator said:

I also said skills and facilities, not just time.


Can she read? The instructions to cook rice are handily included right there on the bag. And unless they're homeless they've got a stove and pot. Try harder.

Probably not - 21% of US adults are considered functionally illiterate in English, and of course a huge portion of those are going to benefits due to poor job prospects.


Then they can get Goya brand rice. Instructions are in Spanish. Try harder.
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Just end SNAP and all other welfare.

Watch as fast food places and low-skill jobs are flooded with applications and the cost of labor comes screaming down after the initial month of screeching.
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Sims said:

I guess I'm missing the part where the OP used one idiot to try to say anything about the wider population of SNAP recipients.


I see what you did there……pretty clever
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AtomicActuator said:

I was asked if "she" could read. And I'm saying this example of a person who lacks cooking skills is likely functionally illiterate, and the stats back that up.


I'm willing to bet she has an iPhone. Hey Siri, show me a video for how to cook rice.
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There isn't great data on Spanish literacy rates and what the overlap is with that 21%, but it's a safe assumption that many of those 21% are not literate in Spanish, but just fully uneducated and/or with a learning disability.
AtomicActuator
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You are really hung up on rice for some reason - you can't live on rice alone, even if you wanted to.
Average Joe
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SNAP should have been modeled like WIC from the get go. Limited to healthy staples that you can make real, healthy, fulfilling meals from.

Probably doesn't matter, though. A large part of the SNAP population don't care about their kids. They only reason they keep them around is to get bigger handouts. I've seen far too many 3 year olds freezing with no jacket while mom is driving a nice SUV and has a designer coat.
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Bob Lee said:

AtomicActuator said:

My life experience that tells me that most people are decent, good people just trying to get by.

What's your evidence?


I would just say I'd be willing to bet that I can pick them out in the grocery stores on certain days of the month with some degree of accuracy.


I don't doubt you can pick out some stereotypical snap recipients who look or act like terrible people.

But about one in eight Americans is or has very recently been in the program. It's quite likely that you are also seeing many decent people who you would never guess are on it.
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techno-ag said:

Reagan gave them cheese. You can eat that as is or use in Tanya recipes. That's the way to go.

I would change the program January 1. Those that qualify get 25 pounds of cheese, 25 pounds of beans, 25 pounds of rice, 25 pounds of flour, Can buy anything else (meat, eggs, etc.) or beg others for it, or do without.

Month 2, those 25 pound handouts become 20 pounds. Month 3, 15 pounds until the handouts become 0. If they haven't found work or made other arrangements in five months, they can starve.
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AtomicActuator said:

You are really hung up on rice for some reason - you can't live on rice alone, even if you wanted to.


And you're hung up the absolute 1% on people on SNAP that are completely unable to find a way to feed themselves unless the can walk to the corner store and use my money to get a Coke and bag of Funyuns.
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one safe place said:

techno-ag said:

Reagan gave them cheese. You can eat that as is or use in Tanya recipes. That's the way to go.

I would change the program January 1. Those that qualify get 25 pounds of cheese, 25 pounds of beans, 25 pounds of rice, 25 pounds of flour, Can buy anything else (meat, eggs, etc.) or beg others for it, or do without.

Month 2, those 25 pound handouts become 20 pounds. Month 3, 15 pounds until the handouts become 0. If they haven't found work or made other arrangements in five months, they can starve.


They won't starve - they are going to steal. And then we will be paying their rent and three squares a day.
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AtomicActuator said:

one safe place said:

techno-ag said:

Reagan gave them cheese. You can eat that as is or use in Tanya recipes. That's the way to go.

I would change the program January 1. Those that qualify get 25 pounds of cheese, 25 pounds of beans, 25 pounds of rice, 25 pounds of flour, Can buy anything else (meat, eggs, etc.) or beg others for it, or do without.

Month 2, those 25 pound handouts become 20 pounds. Month 3, 15 pounds until the handouts become 0. If they haven't found work or made other arrangements in five months, they can starve.


They won't starve - they are going to steal. And then we will be paying their rent and three squares a day.


At least in prison they won't be procreating at such a high rate. Call it a long term investment in America.
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